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The Witcher III: Blood & Wine |OT| One last contract, one last plough

May I ask about how long the "main" quest is?
I now have to find the bootblack boy.
Still haven't decided if I'll do the story first or if I'll keep it last.

Also, I'm so broke after crafting the Grandmaster Feline set. It's absurd, I didn't even need to buy that many components and it still brought me from 35k to about 5k.
 
The lag when browsing through tabs and items is annoying on PS4. Sometimes ended up selling the wrong item or bought the wrong item because of the delay.

Also failed a side mission because I ignored it for another mission fuuuu, have no close save too.
 
What armor set is everyone going for?

Stuck between Feline and Ursine...the hood on Feline though, not liking that. Didn't like it in the second game.
 
Anyone with the physical edition of blood and wine know if it includes any neutral cards as well as the northern realms/nilfgard decks? Wanted weather stuff obviously, but i was also hoping for geralt/ciri/triss/yen cards.
 
icespide said:
how do you guys amass such huge amounts of money? I'm always stuck with around 5-8k
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Clear out question marks, especially bandit camps, then sell everything.

I just spent about 10k to upgrade my Ursine armour to Grandmaster since I didn't want to bother with finding the mats, and then I spent another 10k to add 3 rune slots to (extremely light silver sword name spoiler)
Aerondight
, and then another 30k for runes and glyphs.

It may take some time, but with the new level scaling toggle at least it's not boring. I never cleared Velen/Skellige camps because of all those low level mobs, now I find myself having to force myself to do the main quest, since all the distractions are also nice challenges.
 
cluckinho said:
So I'm working on the base game and just finished all of the main novigrad quests and now I need to go to skellige to continue. Would you say I'm about 2/3 done with the main quest?
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I just got to Skellige last night. Sounds like we still have a loooong way to go.
 
Auto_aim1 said:
The lag when browsing through tabs and items is annoying on PS4. Sometimes ended up selling the wrong item or bought the wrong item because of the delay.

Also failed a side mission because I ignored it for another mission fuuuu, have no close save too.
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What mission did you fail because you ignored it? I haven't done much side missions except the tourney I'm on right now.
 
Tenacious-D said:
Just got to level 40 now.

This is the build I'm using. It's almost impossible to die. Down decoctions and potions like an alcoholic. Throw some bombs. Rend and Whirl.
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Nice, that looks like a crazy good build. I never invested in that HoS merchants upgrades, and I'm at 16,000 gold. Wondering if I should go your route because I love Whirl and Rend and the survivability with the Ursine armor is too good, worth it IMO to forgo the Feline attack bonuses too even with just a Fast Attack build.

EDIT: Are you going to stick with the Ursine set for upgrading to Grandmaster? I ask because the new set bonuses seem focused around Quen, which I don't really use or have any points into. I'm all Combat and Alchemy already, which I think the Manticore or Wolven set would be good to use, though not as protective as Ursine.
 
Haven't played since the last expansion and so much has changed.. kinda hate it, but understand it.. it became a lot more console-y which I guess some people love. Had to turn the stick sensitivity WAY down, but already back in love with the game after an hour of play
 
UmbraeCruxis said:
Anyone with the physical edition of blood and wine know if it includes any neutral cards as well as the northern realms/nilfgard decks? Wanted weather stuff obviously, but i was also hoping for geralt/ciri/triss/yen cards.
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Yes you get the neutral hero cards even dandelion and zoltan
 
So you're telling me you can't even get close to a full set grandmaster gear with 12k? Jesus what do they expect after HoS. They put in a huge gold and crafting mat sink with the runecrafting. FFS I even ignored runecrafting, picked up and sold every piece or armor or weapon and only have 12k going into Blood and Wine at level 40.

It has been asked many times already but is there any ways to make decent money in Blood and Wine? the housing seems like it could be a sink on top of all that. I'm still only 1-2 hours in so I have no idea really.
 
mileS said:
So you're telling me you can't even get close to a full set grandmaster gear with 12k? Jesus what do they expect after HoS. They put in a huge gold and crafting mat sink with the runecrafting. FFS I even ignored runecrafting, picked up and sold every piece or armor or weapon and only have 12k going into Blood and Wine at level 40.

It has been asked many times already but is there any ways to make decent money in Blood and Wine? the housing seems like it could be a sink on top of all that. I'm still only 1-2 hours in so I have no idea really.
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You can always do the White Orchard beehive glitch. Just google it, tons of YouTube videos walk through what you need to do.
 
Having a wholly new area is making me avoid fast travel for the moment - it's just such a scenic, relaxing place. I'll even skip Roach and just trot around as Geralt himself.

The three sidequests I've done so far (
statue, bank, marital ghost spat
) have all been hilarious, too. I don't know when I'll get back to the main quest again, there's still so much to do and I love the estate as well.

Not sure how I'll bulk up my cash reserves, though.
 
mileS said:
So you're telling me you can't even get close to a full set grandmaster gear with 12k? Jesus what do they expect after HoS. They put in a huge gold and crafting mat sink with the runecrafting. FFS I even ignored runecrafting, picked up and sold every piece or armor or weapon and only have 12k going into Blood and Wine at level 40.

It has been asked many times already but is there any ways to make decent money in Blood and Wine? the housing seems like it could be a sink on top of all that. I'm still only 1-2 hours in so I have no idea really.
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It costs 14,000 to fully upgrade Geralt's new house.
 
mileS said:
It has been asked many times already but is there any ways to make decent money in Blood and Wine? the housing seems like it could be a sink on top of all that. I'm still only 1-2 hours in so I have no idea really.
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New Game+ helps a lot with money, since item cost seems to be tied to the level of gear you find, and everything in New Game+ mode is 30 levels higher. On my main playthrough, I have like 20k or so after Hearts of Stone (and not even getting the level 3 Runewright stuff). On my New Game+ playthrough, I was over 200k for a while (think I dropped down to about 80k buying EVERYTHING for no reason, although that was pre-B&W). The only downside is raiding a bandit camp means visiting 20 different merchants because people only have enough money to afford a single sword as opposed to everything you find. But it definitely increases your money supply fast (doubly so since you keep all your items from the first playthrough).

The biggest bummer for me about Blood and Wine so far is that I didn't quite finish HoS on this playthrough (I beat it on my other game), so I still have O'Dimm's mark on my face. I'm really hoping some NPC asks "why does that dude have a dick on his face" at some point.
 
I'm at the last mission of Heart of stone before i can start B&W. Man does it suck. Story wise and setting-wise it's awesome but it's totally ruined by a freaking timer...
 
As a PSA to anyone who like Friendly HUD- it sounds like it will take quite a while for a full release after the patch but he is releasing mini-modules for various components as he finishes them. The 3D quest marker module is out so I can now get rid of the stupid mini-map. Unfortunately it looks like the dynamic HUD fade isn't ready yet.
 
I hate using glitches or exploits for in game money. Esp in games like this. I didn't touch the pearl trick when the game came out.

That being said I hate having to wait 3-4 levels past what the armor is before I can even put it on.
 
I hate to say it as a huge fan of this game, but the main quest in this is putting me to sleep. It's nowhere near as interesting as HoS was and I'm pretty much just drifting through it in hope of a better stroyline to grow out of this initial one. I actually can't think of many storylines from the base game that I've disliked this much either so that's a real shame. Every highlight of the DLC so far for me has been purely moments that have nothing to do with the overarching story.

I really like the setting though and I'm hoping there's some good sidequests to be had, I just expected to be hooked on the story by now but I feel more like I'm playing one of the lesser interesting monster quests stretched out. I'm really hoping for something to change my mind soon.
 
X-Frame said:
Nice, that looks like a crazy good build. I never invested in that HoS merchants upgrades, and I'm at 16,000 gold. Wondering if I should go your route because I love Whirl and Rend and the survivability with the Ursine armor is too good, worth it IMO to forgo the Feline attack bonuses too even with just a Fast Attack build.

EDIT: Are you going to stick with the Ursine set for upgrading to Grandmaster? I ask because the new set bonuses seem focused around Quen, which I don't really use or have any points into. I'm all Combat and Alchemy already, which I think the Manticore or Wolven set would be good to use, though not as protective as Ursine.
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I might go with Manticore for the nostalgia. Not sure yet. I'm also not a fan of the Quen abilities. However, the Adrenaline Point gain is so good on the Bear armour though.

I'd recommend keeping the Cat School techniques if you can enchant the Bear armour to be light gear. The bonus to critical hit damage is insane, and means you can often do a Rend worth 10000 damage, which absolutely slays bigger, slower monsters or bosses.

Something I didn't make clear, is that you should probably always use the Troll decoction too. The build sort of revolves around you pushing past the Potion Threshold, which means your health will be draining. For me, the Troll decoction stops this, although some others say that it doesn't. Seems to be 50/50. I also use mending runes in the armour slots for the additional HP regen. Each decoction you drink will give you 1000 extra health, which stacks with skill 'Endure Pain', which increases your HP by 50% if you go past the Potion Threshold.

The build can handle 3 decoctions at the same time, plus 2 potions. With the 4 added slots in B&W, you can add Fast Metabolism to the build, which means you will able to drink more potions quicker, as your potion toxicity will decrease faster (the potions themselves and their effects stay active though) while the decoction toxicity will stay the same, as the two are calculated differently.

In terms of the new super mutagens / synapses, the Euphoria one seems pretty good, and is easily reachable. Metamorphosis also sounds cool. but requires a lot of points to research.
 
Staf said:
I'm at the last mission of Heart of stone before i can start B&W. Man does it suck. Story wise and setting-wise it's awesome but it's totally ruined by a freaking timer...
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Don't forget to grab the Venomous Viper Silver Sword; only time you can get it. And, yeah, the timer for that mission sucks. I get why they did it, but it's annoying.
 
Not gonna lie the only mutation I care about is for the brutal kills/counters at the top of the red mutagen section.

The others might be useful if it wasn't I'm a red/blue build, and I don't use aard enough to warrant using the ice aard
 
DeathJr said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3OdkARg_H0

Never done it myself but after upgrading the wineyard i'm left with only 40k gold, probably not enough for all the grandmaster sets.
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Nope, you're gonna be broke by the second set...lol. I only crafted the Manticore armor and that alone was 12,000 orens not including the dimeritium ore and plates I needed to craft as well. The other grandmaster sets required multiple crafting components that you'll likely have to buy from that blacksmith for thousands of orens because their components are so rare and hard to find in Toussaint.

The White Orchard money glitch is pretty easy to do. I only loaded up that blacksmith with 10,000 orens because he drops whatever amount of orens he last had each time he dies.
Kill him 4-5 times, and you have yourself 40,000-50,000 orens.
 
Piercing cold is going to make NG+ so fun. My build is 9 red abilities and Aard, and it's doing work right now on DM. Very high chance for things to stagger, get knocked over, immobilized, or flat out blow up.

Seems like the Manticore armor is for players that didn't make bank in vanilla+HoS. It's pretty cheap to make.
 
There definitely is something wrong with this DLC. I'm Level 42 and a normal Troll (37) kills me with two hits on easy. Two fucking hits. And I used Quen.
This is getting really annoying.

Edit: Yeah I'm done with this. What a shame. Just wasted 15 minutes watching the loading screeen because one fucking underleveled troll is killing me with two hits on easy. Fuck this, seriously.
 
Kind of unhappy that it feels like they are catering to pack mules with the gold requirements in the expansion. I found the base game nicely balanced if you didn't pick up and sell everything that wasn't nailed down. However with B&W, and to a lesser extent HoS, it feels like they are designed around everyone who complained that had 50k+ in gold at the end of game and nothing to spend it on.
 
How soon until we think a "Definitive Edition" with all the DLC included will be released? That's the ideal setup for someone who hasn't played any W3 yet...
 
My only issue so far with the expansion is that the grandmaster gear is ridiculously expensive to craft. By the time you have enough money/materials to craft a full set you'll be done with pretty much all the content that the EP offers. Haven't got to the vineyard yet but I heard that's also absurdly expensive to upgrade

I also had the same problem with HoS. Never bothered with the runecrafting quest for the same exact reason. Money is really not that easy to come by in this game unless you exploit, so I don't get why they keep locking all the cool features behind these in-game paywalls
 
Rellik said:
How did someone even discover that?
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I have no clue but I can confirm the white Orchard one worked with 1.12. It's hilarious though as this is the one that triggered the tax man to appear in my game.

And technically his questions were about the cattle/black pearl money exploits so I didn't lie. But Geralt saying "I didn't do anything wrong, Witchers honor" and the tax man presenting you with a fucking plaque for excellence in taxes made me lol so fucking hard.
 
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