Ordered one yesterday.
Waiting to see how much the 1070 G1 Gaming will cost to see whether to keep the 1080 G1 pre-order or not.
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Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks
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Ordered one yesterday.
Waiting to see how much the 1070 G1 Gaming will cost to see whether to keep the 1080 G1 pre-order or not.
AwesomeMeat
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So difficult to wait.
Which card is this? Part of me is interested in the HDMI/USB slots on the front as I am big in to VR and have been for awhile. It isn't really *needed* but might be nice to have.
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Bummer about them apparently prioritizing their own shop but I guess it was to be expected. Should've ordered at them when I had the chance and cancel my other preorder :c
Yeah so annoying lol. PNY FE has been in stock for more than 12h now on local Amazon...
Fuck it, preordered. Are these wind force generally quiet enough? On,y a single 8 pin for power, but is it a custom board?
Even if it ships soon (unlikely), I still want to see what the 1070 is like. £200 cheaper for a custom cooler and I might jump to the 1070.
1080 is now watercooled. Getting around ~46-48 C under load with absolutely no throttling to speak of. Will post graphs and whatnot later. Overclock ceiling seems to be hitting at around ~2100mhz core.
Very nice. Although those clocks + that temperature don't match up. Should be way more headroom. Probably the bios preventing it? But then why would nvidia do that?
Yup, what I've read it's the BIOS that're preventing further OC IIRC. Do not know how it works.
What's your ambient temp?
With a bios edit you can can raise the power limit and thermal limit to the max a card can pull. 225w from the 8 pin and 75w from the pcie, which opens up power headroom. You can increase the max voltage till your vrm cooks too, should be able to get another 200 mhz that way, but bios edit tools aren't out yet.
Unknown Soldier
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To prevent people from exploding their GPUs from too much OCing. There's also the unpleasant issue of strict market segmentation and preventing too much OCing ensures people can't buy a cheaper card and OC it too much to negate the more expensive card. This was a problem for 970 and 980 because a heavily OCed 970 was basically a stock 980.
Supposedly that Galax HOF that hit 2200 had a custom BIOS. However an overclocker guy said that any AIB card can do it with a modded BIOS.
That being said, no card has broken through 1.09V at this time, there's a limit somewhere that modders need to figure out how to bypass. Hopefully it's not hardware locked because that would be awful.
Custom with 8+2 power phase. Thought this was well known by this point. According to a 980ti head-to-head the Windforce was the loudest but coolest card. From what we know so far keeping temps as low as possible is going to be paramount with Pascal.
There's an article over on Xdevs that tackles the voltage issue. Seems the barrier to good overclocking is more the chip itself with its small surface area and tightly packed transistors.
https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/#voltsc
I sent the Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 back because it was so damn loud. It later got a BIOS mod that probably improved the issue a bit but the real problem was that there was a very whiny quality to the fans.
chromatic9
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The cooler is known to be a good one and pretty quiet compared to some others. PCB is custom 8+2 power phase but like you say it's a single 8 pin connector.
Thanks for this article. It was really informative and makes sense of what to expect when it comes to overclocking Pascal.
The few points I got out of this was
1. Voltage is locked on the cards, so for casual overclockers who just stick to MSI Afterburner and such, expect overclocking to about 2000Mhz for both the GTX0180, 1070.
2. Doesn't look like the Pascal overclocks as much as the Maxwell cards due to the tightly packed transistors not releasing heat as quickly.
3. You need to solder on capacitators and resistors and other stuff and cool it in something other than air to really unlock all the power of Pascal. I.e. you have to take thermal heat out of the equation. And even then the article says not to expect 980 Ti levels of overclocking. Another reason 980 Ti will be faster is because it has more Cuda Cores.
4. If you're a casual like me and you just want a decent card you can 'plug and play' consider the standard 1070/1080 with aftermarket cooler like a EVGA ACX 3.0 or Asus Strix or Gigabyte G1, overclock it yourself with MSI AB and be happy with a small 10-15% boost. Spending that extra $70 on the FTW may not guarantee much higher clocks (need to read more reviews to see, but it seems most of these cards are hitting their limit around 2.0, 2.1Ghz.)
Easy solution. Sell a kidney. That's what I'm doing to fund my 1080 in August and my Rift in November.
DI've been looking through EVGA's offerings (their last couple of cards have been great, so I'll be sticking with them), and I'm trying to figure out what the overall purpose of the different cards are, since they've got four or five different versions of the 1080. I get the Founder's Edition, it's the "base model". The SC is basically the Founder's Edition with a factory overclock and ACX cooling. The Classified is apparently meant for hardcore overclockers and the like (not me). So where does the FTW fit in?
What I'd like is one that's faster than the base model, but I don't plan on doing any direct overclocking myself. Between the SC and FTW, I'm leaning more towards the FTW because it's got a custom PCB and isn't using any of the same internals as the Founder's Edition except for the chip, and may end up being faster than the SC (they still haven't released the clock speeds of the FTW, have they?)
Thoughts?
What I'd like is one that's faster than the base model, but I don't plan on doing any direct overclocking myself. Between the SC and FTW, I'm leaning more towards the FTW because it's got a custom PCB and isn't using any of the same internals as the Founder's Edition except for the chip, and may end up being faster than the SC (they still haven't released the clock speeds of the FTW, have they?)
Thoughts?
1080 is now watercooled. Getting around ~46-48 C under load with absolutely no throttling to speak of. Will post graphs and whatnot later. Overclock ceiling seems to be hitting at around ~2100mhz core.
Can you run Valley benchmark overclocked? Make the resolution 2560x1440 and max everything out if possible. I just want to compare my results with an OCed 1080.
draughn101
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Well Gigabyte, unlike Asus, has been out trumpeting the release on the 7th(just look at their twitter page). We didn't hear a peep from Asus besides the mention of the 4th on their blog post release article. That being said, they are pushing the Newegg thing, so that may be the only retailer to get them on the 7th.
ussjtrunks
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Did anyone benchmark rocket league on the 1080 yet, wondering what kind of fps it gets
draughn101
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Yeah, that's why I mentioned the 7th.
Right, you are suggesting they won't be shipping, from Amazon. I believe they will be shipping the 7th, definitely from Newegg, as they are having a promotion w/ the card, and likely some from Amazon.
I am sure the numbers are absurd. My reference 980ti was over 144fps at 1440p and held a locked 60fps on my 4k TV
Seems to be some stuff going on if you go by this thread on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4mit4i/update_on_asus_1080_strix/
I may have to dip to ole faithful and get a FTW EVGA
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4mit4i/update_on_asus_1080_strix/
I may have to dip to ole faithful and get a FTW EVGA
I did read the rest of your post, but the phrasing presents the opening sentence as a counter-point, which is why I responded to that portion in particular by clarifying that I'm aware of GUSA's release date tweet. Anywho, we're on the same page.
draughn101
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Gotcha. Which 1080 variant are you pulling the trigger on?
I pre-ordered the G1 myself, initially as a backup should I miss pre-orders on other noteworthy non-ref cards (such was the case with the FTW -- I had the chance but figured other non-ref cards wouldn't be far behind), however with stock dates being all over the place, I'll probably stick with the pre-order regardless should Amazon update the status with a shipping date that's sooner rather than later.
I'm upgrading from a 980 Ti and had a 980 before it. I intend to continue that momentum going forward: 1080 -> 1080 Ti -> 1180 and so on as selling the previous GPU recoups most of the cost of the new one, so I don't view it as much of an expense (which isn't some sort of not-so-subtle brag -- I work only part-time).
I'd just overclock the 2600K and stick with it for at least another generation (Intel CPU generation, that is). 4.5GHz is easily achievable with a good air cooler. I've a 4.5GHz 2600K myself and while I also have the upgrade itch, I know I don't need to move on just yet.
n0razi
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I need 1440p144 but needs to fit in an ITX case
demigod
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What are your volt and multipliers set at? I might do this instead if i cant find a good deal on combos.
draughn101
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I'm in the same boat. I have early preorders for most of the cards, but I don't know what I'm going to settle on. I really want the Gigabyte Extreme or the FTW, but I'm not sure if I have the patience to wait. I'll do the same trade system for future cards.
1.325v, IIRC, and 45 (I didn't bother tweaking the base clock). 1.325v is relatively high for 4.5GHz, but I eventually get BSODs on anything lower. That's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
Check your motherboard settings, you might not have to worry about it. My mobo has built-in overclocking, so I can just tell it "run at 4.5GHz" and it handles the rest automatically. No problems to speak of except the CPU tends to run hot at those speeds. Nothing the cooler can't handle (it's a third-party cooler with huge fins), but it does keep my fans rather loud as long as the CPU is under load. I've brought it back down to stock for now, but I might bump to 4.0GHz or something once I get my 1080, try to bring it up to par.
finalflame
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I think currently the voltage is capped; I suppose that would be set by the BIOS. Unless there is a way to overvolt further. Currently,the max I can get stably is 2101mhz. The best "stress" test for this seems to be a couple of hours of Overwatch, as higher clocks make it through Firestrike but crash under load in Overwatch.
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Looking forward to bios edit tools so I can get some more power out of it. Hopefully soon. The voltage cap does seem to be the limiting factor atm.
Sigh, I just did, but then I guess I didn't save it. I believe the score was 2886. I'll do it again in a bit.
ShogunDarius
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what motherboards have easy to use built in oc software?
DryvBy
Member
Get your 1070 for only $1299! Such a low, low price from McScalpers!
chromatic9
Member
Think you've answered it already. SC is just the ref with a ACX cooler. FTW is custom has 2x 8 pin, double power phase, neat adjustable RGB colours on the front.
Shifty Capone1
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You get free shipping so it is alright! Who needs a 1080 anyway?
TharpDaddy
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Sorry if this has been asked. I'm probably going to get a 1070. Roughly how long am I looking at before I can get once of the non founders edition cards (as in the ones that aren't $400+) and theres enough stock that I'm not having to scramble to buy it before it sells out? Months?
Shifty Capone1
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If it's anything like the 1080 launch it'll be minimum a month. More then likely 6 weeks to have them readily available. Seems like they don't have any stock at all and manufacturing issues.
I just built a broadwell E system and ported my asus strix 970s until my 1080s arrive. I got the asus strix x99 mobo. The included automatic overclocking suite on the asus motherboard is awesome. I control how high i want to OC the cpu and then it adjusts the fans accordingly. It then overclocked both my 970s and adjusted fan speed. It was easy.
One thing i dont know is if it will only overclock asus gfx cards or any card
Unknown Soldier
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It's funny when I think back and realize that every Nvidia launch is like this, reference cards only for weeks after launch. Nvidia finally wised up and made the reference cards more expensive because why not pick up the money that was left on the table?
Waiting for customs is agony though. Especially since I'm going to rip my 980 Ti out of my gaming PC and send it to the person I sold it to soon, leaving me with...a 680 until I get a custom 1080 ordered and shipped to me. I'm predicting a lot of PS4 in my near future.
Waiting for customs is agony though. Especially since I'm going to rip my 980 Ti out of my gaming PC and send it to the person I sold it to soon, leaving me with...a 680 until I get a custom 1080 ordered and shipped to me. I'm predicting a lot of PS4 in my near future.
draughn101
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It is killer. I'm running integrated until I get my hands on one. Sold my x1 in anticipation of this and an E3 price drop. So it's CSGO and Rocket League until I get something. I'm seriously considering getting the G1 and returning it when the Extreme releases.
1080 is now watercooled. Getting around ~46-48 C under load with absolutely no throttling to speak of. Will post graphs and whatnot later. Overclock ceiling seems to be hitting at around ~2100mhz core.
This is so sexy. I need to try this some day but it seems so intimidating.
Unknown Soldier
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i5 or i7 4000 or 6000 series K and go for a 4 ghz OC
Are you building a new rig or just tossing a new i7 or i5 CPU into your old build?
If keeping old mobo/Ram, just check your current socket and RAM type and go with a somewhat recent compatible processor. No need to go bleeding edge either, some i5's will do just fine and cut the cost down. Just make sure you match up the socket type before purchasing.
Otherwise if a new build, then DDR4 RAM and a socket 1151 i7 or i5 chip will last a good while. Again, need to make sure compatibility with all components, which is easy to figure out before purchase.
I'm in the same boat. I bought a 4690k in 2014 expecting to get the graphics card shortly after (was aiming for a 970 or R9 390), all in a BitFenix Prodigy case. So I stuck with my old Radeon 7770HD, eventually buying a used GTX 670 last year.
Then I was out of a job and had to hold off the upgrade, meanwhile Skylake comes out and everyone says wait for the next generation of GPUs, and here I am again with a job and ready to splurge some cash.
I really want to upgrade to a 1440p 144hz IPS G-Sync or Freesync monitor and a new gen card. I can't stand screen tearing and want it gone. I'm currently looking at the Acer XB271HU and 1070 combo, or the equivalent AMD combo. But still have to wait for reviews and availability...
1080 is now watercooled. Getting around ~46-48 C under load with absolutely no throttling to speak of. Will post graphs and whatnot later. Overclock ceiling seems to be hitting at around ~2100mhz core.
case.
what is it
Won't pretty much any 2 slot GPU fit? Maybe some ITX cases have limited height but I'd expect most to support 10.5" long cards, which most of the 1080s seem to be - the EVGA classified is taller than normal, and several are 2.5-3 slots thick, but eg the EVGA SC and others should be fine.
My bitfenix prodigy can take 13" cards and tall ones due to the motherboard being horizontal. Only limitation is thickness and I think I have to stick with 2 slot max.
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