Mass shooting at Orlando gay nightclub [50 dead, 53 injured]

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The reports of a controlled explosion makes me curious. Possible terrorism?

I hope there aren't too many people hurt or killed. Horrible news all around.
 
UberTag said:
They're rationalizing it away by spouting NRA rhetoric. Just like the 'ole "I'm a responsible gun owner" schtick which is actually the case for pretty much any gun owner up until the moment where they cease to be responsible and carry out a gun-related tragedy. In short, they've been brainwashed and don't realize it.
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I think it goes deeper than that into conflating "shooting people is wrong" therefore "murderers must have something wrong in the head" and thus "they must be mentally ill." People dont want to believe that most murderers are normal people, at least in a psychological sense. You dont need to be mentally ill to combine anger or hatred with a lack of empathy and a weapon.
 
ShadyPenguin said:
While I would agree with you, this really isn't the time to bring your agenda to play. There are people in danger of loosing their lives right now
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eh?

I'll never understand this reaction. Why is it not a good time to discuss gun policy when people are dying every day to guns?

If no one was dying to guns I'd say THAT would be the bad time to discuss new regulations, because they wouldn't be needed

your reaction is counter intuitive
 
-Stranger- said:
Fuck...:(

I wonder if it's a random crazy or something even more sinister.
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I'd rather have it as random crazies than planned attacks around Orlando.
With 2 consecutive incidents I'm sure the city of Orlando will be on high alert today. Hopefully no other shootings will occur for the rest of the weekend.
 
HK-47 said:
I think it goes deeper than that into conflating "shooting people is wrong" therefore "murderers must have something wrong in the head" and thus "they must be mentally ill." People dont want to believe that most murderers are normal people, at least in a psychological sense. You dont need to be mentally ill to combine anger or hatred with a lack of empathy and a weapon.
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John Hopkins University Study: News Stories Often Link Violence With Mental Health Illness, Even Though People With Mental Health Illness Are Rarely Violent
 
We need to either return to the original intent of the 2nd Amendment where people are only allowed to own guns if they are members of the state militia or we need a 28th Amendment repealing the 2nd Amendment and laws confiscating guns and ending gun sales.
 
SG-17 said:
We need to either return to the original intent of the 2nd Amendment where people are only allowed to own guys if they are members of the state militia or we need a 28th Amendment repealing the 2nd Amendment and laws confiscating guns and ending gun sales.
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Good luck.
 
Einchy said:
This is what people always say but what I never hear is someone saying when the right time is.
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Jobbs said:
eh?

I'll never understand this reaction. Why is it not a good time to discuss gun policy when people are dying every day to guns?

If no one was dying to guns I'd say THAT would be the bad time to discuss new regulations, because they wouldn't be needed

your reaction is counter intuitive
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Don't get me wrong, my intention is not to postpone the discussion indefinitely, it's just that I feel like it's in bad taste to do it while the event that triggered the discussion is still occurring.
Now that the shooter is dead I wouldn't have said something.

I may have chosen the wrong words to describe my stance on this.
I want a discussion about Guns. I want that whole thing to be regulated so I won't feel in danger if I'm ever going to visit the US. I just don't want it to happen during the event that triggered the discussion.

But that's just me, and I completely understand if some people don't agree with this.
 
SG-17 said:
We need to either return to the original intent of the 2nd Amendment where people are only allowed to own guns if they are members of the state militia or we need a 28th Amendment repealing the 2nd Amendment and laws confiscating guns and ending gun sales.
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original intent?

that means muskets

and if you translated it into a modern application of the same intent (fighting the government) they'd need ground to air missiles, which are actually illegal, because the government doesn't actually want you shooting down flying things. They don't give a fuck if you shoot eachother, though, clearly
 
Damn!
Saw the thread title earlier and assumed two guys got into an altercation, one pulled out a gun and fired into the air to intimidate the other.
This is much, much worse than that.
Wish people with mental illnesses didn't have access to guns.
 
We need Democrats to vote in midterms and state elections so we can start pushing through incremental legislation.
 
Orlando Police ‏@OrlandoPolice 14s15 seconds ago Orlando, FL
UPDATE Pulse shooting: Chief Mina, Mayor Dyer, Sheriff Demings and FBI will brief at southeast corner Orange & Michigan at 7 am.
 
Premium Quality said:
Damn!
Saw the thread title earlier and assumed two guys got into an altercation, one pulled out a gun and fired into the air to intimidate the other.
This is much, much worse than that.
Wish people with mental illnesses didn't have access to guns.
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This is the rhetoric now isn't it? 'theyre all mad'
 
capitalCORN said:
The point of the second amendment was to repel a possible second attack from the British forces. It is entirely superfluous in this age, or for a good long while now. It's sole purpose is to justify the personal firearm industry and its lobby. If people saw these people in the same light that the tobacco industry gets, that would be an actual reflection of reality.
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I was only stating that to ban guns, the second Amendment would need to be repealed. Not sure why this information is relevant to what I posted.
 
The mental gymnastics people will go through to blame gun deaths on anything but the obvious.
If at least it started a good conversation about healthcare in the US, and mental healthcare in particular, but nah it's just "Me, a responsible gun owner, unlike all those looneys-".
 
VaultBoy101 said:
"How lucky do you feel to be alive?" - Reporter to man who had barely managed to get out of the club just a little earlier.

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When there was that mass shooting in like California I think I was shocked at how brazen the American coverage of those involved was. There was absolutely no regard for the survivors lives. Just what made "good tv".
 
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