BFIB
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Next full generation: modular console where you can pick and choose what you want in it.
Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017
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Next full generation: modular console where you can pick and choose what you want in it.
Then it would also be released on vanilla ps4. Which means it would need to run at 60 fps. It won't.
I've heard this several times in this thread. Is this confirmed?
wapplew
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Pretty big different.
In the future, announce new console is going to be as boring as Nvidia announcing new video card.
Beerman462
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Shit like this cracks me up. It's been corrected 10 times already, but still gets posted.
1070 is 6.5 TFlops at boosted clocks.
1070 is $380 after the FE shit is through
Scorpio is 6 AMD TFlops
New AMD 480 is rumored 5.5 TFlops for $200 and will probably have an overclocked/480X version for $250.
Scorpio comes out a year and a half from now when AMD will most likely have a 6TF closer to $150.
I used to think that aswell for people waiting,
and only just starting to understand why sometimes they do. lol
And, not necessarily because of price drops.
But sometimes people have their own reasons as to why they wait,...
and sometimes not really wanted too in the first place.
And,
I was happy just sticking with PS4 this gen, but still searched info but i was pretty much set in stone with Sony this Gen.
Only until i saw the Gears of War ad, Father and Son with Disturbed Sound of Silence. Yes that trailer alone, nearly made me walk straight out and get one so i can get back into Xbox. And that was my carrot that they dangled in front of me.
And i, started to walk,lol.
But having Children, bills, plans etc. Sometimes people have to pick their moments. So i didn't bite yet..
But now again, thinking i should just wait till Scorpio as everything from One/S will work on it aswell as having better looking games with the 4k etc.
But only because of "recent" appealing concepts etc that weren't there earlier for XboxOne at release time and compared to other possibilities/competitors.
And it's things like that, is to why i don't understand their Announcement structure, because they themselves, has put the breaks on me and my decision.
Which i guess, potentially losses them money.
What if Sony now comes back with something at their E3, or thereafter will waiting for Scorpio and losses my attention?
But that's my situation now.. and i..have decision making,lol
*sigh
*faints from thinking much thinking* lol
Final Verdict
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not everyone has a 4k tv, or the money for what will likely be a more expensive console.
aah right. I thought you were implying they were equivilent power wise
no need to jump down my throat. I misinterpreted his post thats all
LordOfChaos
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That's a lot more bandwidth than the RX 480, I assumed it would be based on that but maybe not. Vega then? But then the tflop number seems small for Vega, but just right for RX480 with an upclock. Unless they're including eSRAM again.
So one question I have...Sony isn't going for a different more powerful CPU but rather an overclock because why exactly?
If it's to keep pricing in check then I understand. But in the past few have suggested it could be because changing the CPU would change the game development process due to a change in design (even if it's still x86 architecture like PS4).
In which case, wouldn't Microsoft experience the same with Scorpio with their different and superior CPU rather than an up clocked one?
If it's to keep pricing in check then I understand. But in the past few have suggested it could be because changing the CPU would change the game development process due to a change in design (even if it's still x86 architecture like PS4).
In which case, wouldn't Microsoft experience the same with Scorpio with their different and superior CPU rather than an up clocked one?
I was obviously being sarcastic, All this "Sony is over" comments are just ridiculous fanboys rhetoric.
It's obvious MS is in panic mode.
Sorry, haven't read everything yet..
Is Scorpio backwards compatible but will have exclusive games taking full advantage of the power? Or is it like the rumoured Neo where all Xbox One games need to run on all systems with different settings?
Did anyone say if original Xbox One games will be able to be patched to make better use of Scorpio.
Seems risky announcing this SOOOO far out. I sort of expect Sony will somehow do something to upset their plans before they get to full unfurl them. Also, price is the huge question here.
Is Scorpio backwards compatible but will have exclusive games taking full advantage of the power? Or is it like the rumoured Neo where all Xbox One games need to run on all systems with different settings?
Did anyone say if original Xbox One games will be able to be patched to make better use of Scorpio.
Seems risky announcing this SOOOO far out. I sort of expect Sony will somehow do something to upset their plans before they get to full unfurl them. Also, price is the huge question here.
You basically just stated my point of view on this whole matter. We're on the same boat pal.
ProvenDeadly
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This may be a stupid question but will you have to have a 4K tv to use this? Luckily I do have one but just curious.
Why do people care about specs so much with consoles?
If you want the highest specs get a PC, but if you are going for the exclusives get a console. It all depends on which exclusives you like the most.
You've got people that prefer MS exclusives and the way they do things, other people like Sony's part and the rest likes Nintendo.
None of the companies would have more exclusives if it had better specced consoles.
If you want the highest specs get a PC, but if you are going for the exclusives get a console. It all depends on which exclusives you like the most.
You've got people that prefer MS exclusives and the way they do things, other people like Sony's part and the rest likes Nintendo.
None of the companies would have more exclusives if it had better specced consoles.
luca_29_bg
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Yea, poor Sony.
i'm dying hahaahahahahahahahah XD
4.2 was one of the possible rumored tflops variants iirc
You will continue to get knee-jerk reaction from people for awhile and probably even continue to get them even after the release of the scorpio even though we will even be able to 100% prove what you've just stated.
Such it is with wishful thinkers and people who don't udnerstand hardware.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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So happy that this was announced.
rokkerkory
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Killer Queen
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Bam Bam Baklava
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Something just doesn't add up here. Ask any PC gamer how much it costs to build something that runs EVERY game at 4K and it's clear this thing is going to be pricey as hell, or they're misrepresenting the capabilities of this machine.
I don't think anyone would refute this, unless Sony changes their mind
The Real Napsta
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RIP PlayStation
aah right. I thought you were implying they were equivilent power wise
no need to jump down my throat. I misinterpreted his post thats all
ah thought you were trying to state something with it, sorry.
Darryl M R
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This is Microsoft saying they lost PS4 vs X1 and that they were wrong about what gamers want.
Sony should cancel Neo, make an 8TF PS5 or something, in 2018. Also put some god damn freesync functionality and add that to their TV line up.
Xbox One S is an unnecessary upgrade. It could have launched alongside scorpio as the cheaper machine to get 4K and HDR cheaper to homes.
Xbox One S is an unnecessary upgrade. It could have launched alongside scorpio as the cheaper machine to get 4K and HDR cheaper to homes.
Only GPU.
Zombie James
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It's one of the reasons. Why would (at the time I bought my PS4) spend $100 more on weaker hardware? It made no sense.
Posting for the new page. Scorpio is Fall 2017, officially confirmed.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/13/1...-cross-platform-future-phil-spencer-interview
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/13/1...-cross-platform-future-phil-spencer-interview
ninjablade
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well those days are close to being over, how many games are that much more complex then the last of us , and gtav on ps3? i'm there are few but its getting rare and too expensive for devs.
You can't compare Nv TF's to AMD's
A 980Ti is what, 5.6tf, my R9 Nano is 8Tf, but it in no ways beats a 980Ti in games.
A 6tf AMD GPU equivilent is the performance you get from a 390X.
SkylineRKR
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Yep. Neo sounded like shit and I wasn't interested in it.
MS is pushing Sony forward. I think this is why House came out and said PS4K won't be at E3. They have a severely underpowered system and they know it.
RichiRamjag
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That's my big issue. I'd rather they move on and keep backwards compatibility.
LukasTaves
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Oh, I was more interested in the platform features announced, like keyboard support for xbone and other stuff
Dunno why Ms just didn't announced it already, god damn!
Even at 6TF, this thing isn't running modern games at native 4K unless compromised in other areas.
4k native games, have to upgrade my TV
I'm not refuting it per se - I'm asking for a general time frame which no one can accurately answer despite throwing out the fact that it will be "earlier".
I think it's more likely that it'll come out holiday 2017 than 2016 - there is no way they would skip the announcement in E3 otherwise
No, Zen is 8 core.
LordOfChaos
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It's likely a similar reason why the PowerPC 360 BC was possible on the x86 One - Microsofts API is higher level. It's still DirectX 12 level on the XBO. I'm not sure if PS4s GNM goes deeper, but it's possibly why, and why the PS3 BC was never possible due to LibGCM
PC has a ton of benefits over consoles. Competitive marketplaces, mods, customization, free online play to name a few. I still view frequent upgrades as a drawback, but if I now have to deal with that regardless I might as well do it in the platform that gives me the most freedom.
What? No...
Obscuritas
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All these "Neo vs Scorpio" talks are quite hilarious since the OG PS4 (and to a lesser extent X1s) will probably outsell them.
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