KinofChaos
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?? Were did I say it was doomed? I only have 2 posts in the thread, stop being so defensive and go into attack mode over a piece of plastic.
Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017
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?? Were did I say it was doomed? I only have 2 posts in the thread, stop being so defensive and go into attack mode over a piece of plastic.
depends on form factor
In a full PC Tower about £500
In a console sized case about £800
Delusibeta
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TBH, the only reason for Neo to miss this calendar year is if Sony has difficulty pulling off a spec bump. I do think Sony would prioritize having a 12 month advantage.
DeepEnigma
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And you will still be getting that very same 'taking advantage of' for a timeframe on the current, plus enhancements you would otherwise not get on the next one, what is the problem?
There were heavy rumors Microsoft was going to do this with the Xbox One.
LordOfChaos
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That's a lot more bandwidth than the RX 480, I assumed it would be based on that but maybe not. Vega then? But then the tflop number seems small for Vega, but just right for RX480 with an upclock. Unless they're including eSRAM again.
Am I missing a joke? According to the counter you made 5, minus this one its 4.
So Nintendo pulled a Wii and Microsoft pulled a PS4?
vpance
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Medium to high settings, lower LOD, close enough. And yeah the metal stuff.
...Scatter...
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That was....lame
This is what I gathered also, even if they didn't state it that directly, and I'm very happy about it. I want to get the Scorpio if it offers the best version of multiplat games, but not if there will be cases where I have to play at a disadvantage against kb/mouse players or be forced to use kb/mouse myself to be competitive.
Garrett 2U
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This is priceless material right here
cyberheater
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Will Sony announce the spec of Neo today?
qa_engineer
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Most likely. But it's also semi-custom so they could have modified the 480.
Delusibeta
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Depends on the policies that Microsoft imposes on supporting the original Xbone. Assuming they have the same policies as Sony (i.e. an Xbone version is required), then it would be either target their game on the Xbone hardware, resulting in a disappointing Scorpio experience, or target Scorpio and risk not getting a playable Xbone version.
Come to think of it, requiring an Xbone version could neuter the Scorpio's power, since everyone would in theory would still be targeting the Xbone/PS4.
witchedwiz
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this...
Normally i'd be quite skeptic but running 4k In-game res is something that they can achieve with this specs, plus consider the optimization that developers usually deliver given a target-spec machine (aka console)..
and again i agree with some posters commenting that neo is currently < scorpio, less sony prese the trigger and does some serious change (either in pure spec, or in clock this hacking to review the beat dissipation..).
We'll see how this whole thing turns out
Liamario
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MS has a predicament on their hands.
They won't be releasing this console without it costing a pretty penny.
They've to reclaim users who've switched to Sony. Users who are already invested in their Sony consoles.
Neo will play all the games they own and improve some of them (all of them after release) and will have decent specs and probably be cheaper.
Buying into the Xbox Eco system 4-5 years in, at a premium is a big ask except for the financially loose. Neo will definitely appease these people.
They won't be releasing this console without it costing a pretty penny.
They've to reclaim users who've switched to Sony. Users who are already invested in their Sony consoles.
Neo will play all the games they own and improve some of them (all of them after release) and will have decent specs and probably be cheaper.
Buying into the Xbox Eco system 4-5 years in, at a premium is a big ask except for the financially loose. Neo will definitely appease these people.
3rdamention
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Has a console ever been revealed this far ahead of time?
texhnolyze
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DasPenguin
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I think I'm officially at the "Old man yells at cloud" stage in my life. Can someone explain to me what this is? Is this still considered Xbox One, or is this "new gen" already? I guess Sony is doing something similar, but I don't get it. Feels like it comes too fast. Especially if it means old consoles won't run new games anymore.
Nope, It's even old right now.
But people forget the plus consoles have over PC. Real optimisation. People believing native 4k is still kidding themselves. Fuck, 4k native as of now isn't manageable at all for any company out there. Not everything can be Star Citizen and ask yourself this: Where is it?
PS3 maybe.
Delusibeta
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I would be surprised if they did that. I'll expect they would wait until they have the box ready at the very earliest.
Andrew House already said they weren't going to talk about it at E3.
Garrett 2U
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Obscuritas
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KinofChaos
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No they should not. MS is in full on panic, unveiling a paper spec console 1.5 years ahead of time was, bizarre and pointless. Sony can sit back knowing their competitors plans well in advance and focus just on games.
Killer Queen
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They've got the sales lead and a large user base so I don't think they'd care. If they add another unit to the ps4 family they might be overdoing it, slim models and revisions aside
Let's not be ridiculous. Consoles take more than a year and a half to build and has probably been in development for a while as was the NEO.
By priceless material, you mean the truth?
I don't see any significant shift in the Xbox/Sony split ratio either, a lot of people don't. Microsoft don't have much of a presence outside of NA and UK.
BFIB
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As many others have said, its going to come down to the quality of the games. Sony seems to have a good balance of hardware/software right now, so I'd expect the Neo to stay the course in this method.
qa_engineer
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Not that I know of. This is all uncharted territory for console makers.
dgrdsv
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It really isn't considering that it'll launch in the end of next year. PC GPUs with 6+ TFs will cost less than $200 by that time.
It seems really unlikely.
Or not. MS stated that they are following to have the most powerful console in the market (like Sony did in 2013). So I think downgrades are a option that they don't have.
Even if SONY counter with a bumped PSneo specs (wich is perfectly acceptable) they have margin to bump too.
And MS started the new "half-gen" today.
tiredheadcrab
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Both Wii and PS3 were announced at E3 2005 and released in fall 2006. So not really new no.
It will blow for devs surely and the grumblings we are hearing in regards to Neo devkits, its most likely going to get worse.
KinofChaos
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How so? You think europe is going to leave PS for scorpio which will launch later and cost more? LOL if you do. Power is not why PS is bigger then xbox. You are not going to see any majot shift with this. Xbox versus PS2 all over.
It amazes me people think this will all of a sudden spur an exodus from playstation over this. People clearly don't understand the market.
Caayn
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Is this your first generation?
The Goat Of Ages
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As it stands now, Sony should scrap the Neo, ride the PS4 train until 2018 then drop the PS5 to destroy the scorpio. Only sensible course of action I can see from here
Pocky4Th3Win
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This would be like if Apple started talking iPhone 7S today even though the iPhone 7 is launching this year.
...Scatter...
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Sony will just make money of the current large PS4 base like they did with PS2. Scorpio will take the enthusiasts market for a couple of years solid.
NullPointer
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That's that optimistic view, yes, but it depends upon the length of that hardware sweet spot timeframe, and whether the new hardware is more about enhancements to a base game like you describe, or if the base game is a cut down port of a game positioned to push sales of the new hardware.
As obsolete as buying a IPhone 6s when I7 is around. You bought into a ecosystem.
Delusibeta
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The Wii was announced as existing a good two years before release. I think the NX would be a similar time frame. However, neither console announced specs on their existence announcement.
SkylineRKR
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House got Scorpio specs on his lap.
But they can sit back.
Yeah but we know 7S is coming next year anyway.
Hidden One
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That would be savage.
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