Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016
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Napalm_Frank
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So if UK chooses to remain how long until they choose to vote again? :d
brain_stew
Member
55% Remain
45% Leave
71% turnout
45% Leave
71% turnout
Well I am just about to set off to vote and I am undecided still, there are good arguments on both sides for instance I would like the UK to have more control over migration but if the side effect of that is that the UK becomes a more nasty racist place then it becomes a tough choice.
Remember to take a pen when voting as it is very easy for votes to be altered if you use the provided pencil.
Remember to take a pen when voting as it is very easy for votes to be altered if you use the provided pencil.
Silphonica
Banned
Voted to remain, passed my neighbour who did the same. Done our part, will be interesting to see what happens.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Well today's the day. Been speaking to a lot of people over the last month, friends, family, work colleagues, even people at the gym in general conversation, so around 32 people and only know 2 person who is voting to remain, but who knows what will happen.
Be glad when its all over as some people have gone all crazy. Britain will be ok in the EU but despite what some people seem to think, Britain will be totally fine out aswell.
Be glad when its all over as some people have gone all crazy. Britain will be ok in the EU but despite what some people seem to think, Britain will be totally fine out aswell.
ClivePwned
Member
My fucking cat kept on banging on the bedroom door every 30 mins from about 4:30am. He was so excited about the vote.
I finally had to tell him I already voted by post. And feed him. Actually, it might have been about the food.
however it goes today, be nice to each other afterwards.
I finally had to tell him I already voted by post. And feed him. Actually, it might have been about the food.
however it goes today, be nice to each other afterwards.
brain_stew
Member
If you're undecided then you must vote remain. Remain ensures the status quo for the time being and doesn't prevent us from leaving in the future. Leave is the nuclear option with no going back.
brianmcdoogle
Member
What times do polls close and when should results start coming in?
Does anyone have a good idea how the pound will react if it's a Remain decision? Working abroad but coming back for a month or two to see friends, and trying to work out if it's better to change money into sterling today or tomorrow, since I'm thinking Remain will win.
Given the rally the past couple of days because of Remain leading in polls, I'm inclined to say it'll go up against other currencies tomorrow, but...
Given the rally the past couple of days because of Remain leading in polls, I'm inclined to say it'll go up against other currencies tomorrow, but...
It's this sort of attitude that will probably be responsible for a leave vote, so much moral high-grounding from the remain camp that happily ignore the myriad of issues that make some people want to vote leave and instead just retort with 'you must be racist'.
'I'm not happy with how EU officials are elected/given office'
'You must be racist'
'I'm not happy with how the EU is holding up trade agreements with non-EU nations'
'Yep, closet UKIPer'.
'I don't feel that continued integration with a declining state with different cultural priorities is best for the UK'.
'Stay at home little Englander! Haven't you got a picture of Farage to wank over?'
To see half of the nation getting continually dismissed out of hand is infuriating, but no they must just be Racist/UKip/BNP etc.etc. If leave win then it is that sentiment and refusal to consider many of these issues that will be responsible.
It has only taken 40 years to get this referendum, there will be no future vote or option to leave in my lifetime. As such I most definitely do not HAVE to vote remain. And we can only expect the rest of the EU to deal with the potential of a 'neverendum' in the same way the rest of the UK feels about another Scottish vote. ie- outright hostility.
brain_stew
Member
You can be fucking serious.
I guess it will go up since all the talk that the economy will be hurt of leave wins.
milanbaros
Member?
20 minutes in and no reaction from the betting market or currency market.
Wouldn't expect reactions until midday at the earliest.
Wouldn't expect reactions until midday at the earliest.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
While I don't want Leave to win because from everything I've read it would hurt the UK (and world) market, it would make me feel a little better about what's going on with Trump here across the pond.
The space lizards are trying to control the UK....
NekoFever
Member
Tons of Brexitors have been saying this. It's hilarious.
Mmmm, that's what I was thinking.
No exit polls, though, so it would just be anecdotal evidence from the internet and in-person that would affect the markets?
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Have been told by the banks here (Britton leaving abroad) that they expect a massive bounce for the pound in the event of a Remain vote.
At the minute, the local currency is holding 5.5 to the pound, lower than the 6.5 it was last year due to uncertainty over a leave vote. I've been told a remain would make it spike back up over 6 and a leave well below 5 (possibly to parity with the Euro)
10pm, and from 2am onwards.
They're already spinning the narrative incase they lose. Watch Jo Cox's death be used as an excuse too.
What the fuck do you expect when a lot of people voting leave can't even come up with an answer that isn't utter nonsense for doing so?
milanbaros
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Banks and hedge funds have funded private exit polls. There are billions of pounds on the line, they aren't going to wait for the results to come in.
Britain would be economically (X) if we left the EU:
Better off: 23%
Worse off: 40%
No different: 22%
(YouGov)
Britain would have (X) influence in the world if we left the EU:
More: 16%
Less: 38%
No different: 34%
(YouGov)
It would be (X) for jobs if Britain left the EU:
Good: 22%
Bad: 36%
No different: 27%
(YouGov)
Britain would be (X) at risk from terrorism if we left the EU:
More: 17%
Less: 19%
No different: 51%
(YouGov)
There would be (X) immigration into Britain if we left the EU:
More: 3%
Less: 53%
No different: 33%
(YouGov)
It would be (X) for pensions if Britain left the EU:
Good: 8%
Bad: 25%
No different: 40%
(YouGov)
You personally would be financially (X) if Britain left the EU:
Better off: 10%
Worse off: 29%
No different: 44%
(YouGov)
via https://twitter.com/britainelects/
Better off: 23%
Worse off: 40%
No different: 22%
(YouGov)
Britain would have (X) influence in the world if we left the EU:
More: 16%
Less: 38%
No different: 34%
(YouGov)
It would be (X) for jobs if Britain left the EU:
Good: 22%
Bad: 36%
No different: 27%
(YouGov)
Britain would be (X) at risk from terrorism if we left the EU:
More: 17%
Less: 19%
No different: 51%
(YouGov)
There would be (X) immigration into Britain if we left the EU:
More: 3%
Less: 53%
No different: 33%
(YouGov)
It would be (X) for pensions if Britain left the EU:
Good: 8%
Bad: 25%
No different: 40%
(YouGov)
You personally would be financially (X) if Britain left the EU:
Better off: 10%
Worse off: 29%
No different: 44%
(YouGov)
via https://twitter.com/britainelects/
I'm sorry you feel this way.
People kept telling me that apparently you couldn't talk about immigration. Funny how it's all I've heard all year.
Brexiters should had done their due diligence to see whether their entire case had any overall merit when all things are considered. It's not my fault the vast majority of experts sided with Remain.
How you can argue that you're not being listened to when we've got this referendum. In my experience it's Brexiters who are closed to reasonable opinions.
But that is neither here nor there. Vote how you like. We're on the verge of crashing the economy; believe me we're here because somebody is listening.
giant_frying_pan
Member
And so I have voted for the 2nd time this year. But will it be the last...?!
You're not kidding - there's like...zero cloud! That never happens!
31GhostsIV
Banned
No, if leave wins we'll be out of the EU.
I'm just having my first coffee of the day before heading around the corner to do my bit for remain.
NekoFever
Member
Technically the vote isn't legally binding but essentially yes, a Leave vote will mean the UK will leave the EU. Not immediately because there are a lot of negotiations to do and new laws to pass, but it'll start moving down that road.
It would be at least two years before we'd leave, most likely more.
NekoFever
Member
This always makes me laugh. Nigel Farage is never off the bloody TV. Half the print media never shuts up about immigration. My parents and their friends are on about it constantly. But obviously they're being silenced. Persecution complex.
It has been known to happen in the past.
brain_stew
Member
I know it's a thing just crazy seeing it here on GAF.
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Any general election, and any change to the EU treaties that cedes further power to the EU (as the law currently stands I think).
I've banged on a lot about Remain, but I don't by any means dismiss these concerns. They are perfectly sensible and many people share them.
I hope I haven't dismissed anyone out of hand (well, except for Tak3n - but he was really pushing his luck).
What I do disagree with is the claim (made by both sides) that this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing, and that voting to leave now is without bad economic and political consequences in the short to medium term. And it is the risk of immediate financial and political fallout that most worries me.
As I've said above, we can trigger exit any general election we want to by voting in a party that has Leave in its manifesto. In addition, there are likely to be votes on any further cession of power to the EU. It's not a once in a lifetime opportunity to leave. It is a once in a lifetime opportunity to Remain on anything like our current terms.
Of course you don't have to vote to Remain. Any moral approbation I have is for the self-serving power-grabbers who claim without serious basis that leaving now is the only road to Oz regardless of the consequences. And given who they are and the company they keep, I'm rather worried about the political landscape of the UK should Leave win today.
Best wishes, and vote the way you want to.
brain_stew
Member
When, where?? Electoral fraud is such a none issue in the UK and when it's cropped up in isolation it's mostly been via postal votes. No one is rubbing out your cross.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
I wanted to shift a reasonable amount of money earlier in the month and had a similar dilemma. It's basically a gamble that Remain wins.
Betting thousands on the British public not being stupid enough to vote Leave perhaps wasn't the best idea, in hindsight.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
I'm still kind of on the fence :/
I'm leaning towards remain but I'm trying to do some last minute "revision" by watching the Final Debate on CH4 last night and it's unwatchable. Paxman is a bad moderator and the so called politicians are bickering with each other, its pathetic.
I'm leaning towards remain but I'm trying to do some last minute "revision" by watching the Final Debate on CH4 last night and it's unwatchable. Paxman is a bad moderator and the so called politicians are bickering with each other, its pathetic.
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