Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

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Hazzuh said:
Just want to give my two cents before I go and vote. I'm going to be voting Remain but there is a lot I don't like about the EU.

Generally, I don't really like the EU's political structure. I don't like the legislative procedure as they exist now. I don't like how far removed the European Commission is from ordinary voters. Even if the way the EU parliament is formed right now is OK, the low turnout undermines it's credibility and the poor quality of reporting in UK at least (which I am aware is not the EUs fault) seems to make it the perfect environment for lobbying and corruption.

Additionally, I don't think "ever closer union" is possible or even desirable. This sort of unification seems to revive or even create animosity between nations rather than reduce it, which we can all agree is the opposite of why the EU was formed. The response to the Eurozone crisis is to me a good example of that, the people of Germany and Greece (for example) would not feel the same level of dislike they do currently if not for the financial institutions they share.

That said, most of my dislikes of the EU are issues with its institutions rather than the actual policies it pursues. I am pretty sceptical about the Euro but that isn't really relevant to the UK, generally I am OK with freer movement of people and freer trade etc. Moreover, I think that even if I wouldn't want the UK to join the EU as it now exists, given we are in it the practical costs of leaving would be far too great.

tl;dr: I don't like the institutions of the EU but I think there would be too many practical costs to leaving so I am voting Remain.
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Couldn't have said it better myself man. EU is inefficient, corrupt and un-democratic in many ways, but staying in benefits UK now more than getting out. So purely selfishly, I would vote remain if I was a Brit. Since I'm an immigrant and non-dom I won't, so I will write words on the interweb instead.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
Done and done.

Voted leave in the end and I'll tell you bastards who are about to jump me why.

So I was walking the polling station, remain on my mind and thinking about the joys of seeing the crying leavers on Twitter later tonight and I happened across a newsagents.

Now this newsagents was as you'd expect, the faint scent of something foreign in the air, a rather dark looking chap behind the counter with a thick accent, (which is all too common these days...)I didn't let it concern me too much, I was an enlightened fellow, someone who didn't mind his kind in my country, so long as they did their part and provided me with services I needed.

I find what I'm looking for and what in the tittyloving fuck do I see...FUCKING CHOMP AND FUDGE BARS AT 25 FUCKING PENCE A POP. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN ACCEPTABLE?

Outraged, I demanded the fellow behind the counter explain why these delicious treats which I needed were now 25p and not 10p as they used to be. He shot a look of utter bewilderment as he mumbled in his rather thick accent - "I'm sorry sir, that's the price" - becoming more enraged by the second, I started to shout and demanded to know why he felt he could charge 25p...more muttering and soon he's sweating.

The atmosphere is now tense, a small crowd has gathered as I demand to know why he's charging 25p and suddenly an old lady with a new necklace appears....she quickly defuses the stand-off by regaling us with a story of how she fooled this fellow in a jewellery shop into thinking she had changed her mind to get a discount on her rather fetching new necklace.

We laughed and laughed some more. Eventually the crowd dissipated, the elderly woman walking off chuckling and stroking her new necklace and I suddenly remember...CHOMPS AND FUDGES ARE FUCKING 25P and I demand to know why the shopkeeper is charging so much.

He's full of excuses, so I throw the wretched things in his face, storm out and run towards the polling booth, a small group following as they realise some shit is about to go down...

I enter and demand they hand me my ballot paper...i enter hte booth and there's a fucking pencil. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS I shout, demanding to know where the MI5 agent so they can witness me making my mark in pen. No one steps forward, the cowards didn't even have the courtesy to show their face.

I vote leave...shouting my vote as I had in my ballot. I leave, the crowd outside anticipating my return...I VOTED LEAVE! I VOTED LEAVE BECAUSE CHOMPS AND FUDGES ARE FUCKING 25P. WHAT THE FUCK.

One voice form the crowd shouts...a bastard with a pack of Prawn Cocktail crisps ...that cunt just voted leave, rush the bastard. They cheered...
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Miles, pls, enjoy some salty nuts

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milanbaros said:
Sorry, a bit late. All metrics have moved towards leave for the second hour in a row. At 1423:

FTSE100 - 6,324 (up 1.0%)
£ - USD 1.485
Betfair - 1.15 (87% remain)
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In the past 2h20m:

FTSE100 6,338 (up 1.2%) closed now, so no longer an indicator.
£-USD - 1.482
Betfair- 1.19 (84%)

Markets very calm.
 
Rich! said:
being entirely serious, I have a lot to say on the matter of chocolate, particuarly cadburys, here in the UK

I ran a large convenience store (10 staff, not huge but eh) from 2011 to 2014. Now, I was in retail before Kraft took over Cadburys and I was obviously there after. I noticed things were the same to begin with. But after a few months, the sizes of standard bars reduced, some by up to 8g. Not only that, the price stayed the same.

Now, eventually, the price rised. Look at the size of a goddamn wispa now. It's fucking tiny, and you're paying more than you did in 2010. it's bullshit
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Didn't Cadbury also replace sugar with corn syrup garbage as well after Kraft bought them?

If they haven't yet, they definitely will be.
 
Rich! said:
being entirely serious, I have a lot to say on the matter of chocolate, particuarly cadburys, here in the UK

I ran a large convenience store (10 staff, not huge but eh) from 2011 to 2014. Now, I was in retail before Kraft took over Cadburys and I was obviously there after. I noticed things were the same to begin with. But after a few months, the sizes of standard bars reduced, some by up to 8g. Not only that, the price stayed the same.

Now, eventually, the price rised. Look at the size of a goddamn wispa now. It's fucking tiny, and you're paying more than you did in 2010. it's bullshit
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20p Freddo was the final straw for me

#fuckcadbury
 
Rich! said:
being entirely serious, I have a lot to say on the matter of chocolate, particuarly cadburys, here in the UK

I ran a large convenience store (10 staff, not huge but eh) from 2011 to 2014. Now, I was in retail before Kraft took over Cadburys and I was obviously there after. I noticed things were the same to begin with. But after a few months, the sizes of standard bars reduced, some by up to . Not only that, the price stayed the same.

Eventually, the price rised. Look at the size of a goddamn wispa now. It's fucking tiny, and you're paying more than you did in 2010. it's bullshit
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I got a six pack of wispas for a quid the other day

they added up to 1 90's wispa
 
Rich! said:
being entirely serious, I have a lot to say on the matter of chocolate, particuarly cadburys, here in the UK

I ran a large convenience store (10 staff, not huge but eh) from 2011 to 2014. Now, I was in retail before Kraft took over Cadburys and I was obviously there after. I noticed things were the same to begin with. But after a few months, the sizes of standard bars reduced, some by up to 8g. Not only that, the price stayed the same.

Eventually, the price rised. Look at the size of a goddamn wispa now. It's fucking tiny, and you're paying more than you did in 2010. it's bullshit
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My new mat cover head of department worked for m&m/mars before us. Learning all sorts of interesting things about m&ms...
 
Rich! said:
being entirely serious, I have a lot to say on the matter of chocolate, particuarly cadburys, here in the UK

I ran a large convenience store (10 staff, not huge but eh) from 2011 to 2014. Now, I was in retail before Kraft took over Cadburys and I was obviously there after. I noticed things were the same to begin with. But after a few months, the sizes of standard bars reduced, some by up to 8g. Not only that, the price stayed the same.

Eventually, the price rised. Look at the size of a goddamn wispa now. It's fucking tiny, and you're paying more than you did in 2010. it's bullshit
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Agreed. Bastards.
 
Speaking of salty nuts, I actually think the salt from the crazy leave voters (not normal folks who made that their decision) will come close to surpassing the salt from myself and other pro-independence voters up North, if remain wins. People are going batshit insane and there's still 5 hours till vote counting starts.
 
Rich! said:
being entirely serious, I have a lot to say on the matter of chocolate, particuarly cadburys, here in the UK

I ran a large convenience store (10 staff, not huge but eh) from 2011 to 2014. Now, I was in retail before Kraft took over Cadburys and I was obviously there after. I noticed things were the same to begin with. But after a few months, the sizes of standard bars reduced, some by up to 8g. Not only that, the price stayed the same.

Eventually, the price rised. Look at the size of a goddamn wispa now. It's fucking tiny, and you're paying more than you did in 2010. it's bullshit
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The price of cocoa doesn't remain the same, you know. AFAIK it's risen quite noticeably in the last 10 years, which at least partly explain diminishing sizes and/or raises in price. They can't sell that shit for a loss.
 
In Canada all federal elections are done using pencil and paper as well, I don't see what the fuss is about. I've been involved in the vote counting process as well, there is zero room for fraud. At every single step you have multiple people from all political parties present monitoring the counting, box opening, etc. They never leave the room where you vote, they are opened on the spot, counted, put away, etc, and the vote tallies are reported by phone calls/texts to each party, the elections office, and even the media sometimes.

Pencils have nothing to do with vote rigging.
 
Famassu said:
The price of cocoa doesn't remain the same, you know. AFAIK it's risen quite noticeably in the last 10 years, which at least partly explain diminishing sizes and/or raises in price. They can't sell that shit for a loss.
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...but Mars, lindt, thorntons and Nestle didn't change. Cadburys did. I observed it with my own eyes and my own planograms I had to manage every bloody day
 
Famassu said:
The price of cocoa doesn't remain the same, you know. AFAIK it's risen quite noticeably in the last 10 years, which at least partly explain diminishing sizes and/or raises in price. They can't sell that shit for a loss.
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Famassu confirmed for MI5 plant.
 
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Got some Turkish delights too, because why the hell not.

Seriously, when did Chomps/Fudges/Freddo hit 25p? I felt crazy old when I picked them up and immediately thought, these were 10p and then I remembered that was 20 years ago.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
Done and done.

Voted leave in the end and I'll tell you bastards who are about to jump me why.

So I was walking the polling station, remain on my mind and thinking about the joys of seeing the crying leavers on Twitter later tonight and I happened across a newsagents.

Now this newsagents was as you'd expect, the faint scent of something foreign in the air, a rather dark looking chap behind the counter with a thick accent, (which is all too common these days...)I didn't let it concern me too much, I was an enlightened fellow, someone who didn't mind his kind in my country, so long as they did their part and provided me with services I needed.

I find what I'm looking for and what in the tittyloving fuck do I see...FUCKING CHOMP AND FUDGE BARS AT 25 FUCKING PENCE A POP. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN ACCEPTABLE?

Outraged, I demanded the fellow behind the counter explain why these delicious treats which I needed were now 25p and not 10p as they used to be. He shot a look of utter bewilderment as he mumbled in his rather thick accent - "I'm sorry sir, that's the price" - becoming more enraged by the second, I started to shout and demanded to know why he felt he could charge 25p...more muttering and soon he's sweating.

The atmosphere is now tense, a small crowd has gathered as I demand to know why he's charging 25p and suddenly an old lady with a new necklace appears....she quickly defuses the stand-off by regaling us with a story of how she fooled this fellow in a jewellery shop into thinking she had changed her mind to get a discount on her rather fetching new necklace.

We laughed and laughed some more. Eventually the crowd dissipated, the elderly woman walking off chuckling and stroking her new necklace and I suddenly remember...CHOMPS AND FUDGES ARE FUCKING 25P and I demand to know why the shopkeeper is charging so much.

He's full of excuses, so I throw the wretched things in his face, storm out and run towards the polling booth, a small group following as they realise some shit is about to go down...

I enter and demand they hand me my ballot paper...i enter hte booth and there's a fucking pencil. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS I shout, demanding to know where the MI5 agent so they can witness me making my mark in pen. No one steps forward, the cowards didn't even have the courtesy to show their face.

I vote leave...shouting my vote as I had in my ballot. I leave, the crowd outside anticipating my return...I VOTED LEAVE! I VOTED LEAVE BECAUSE CHOMPS AND FUDGES ARE FUCKING 25P. WHAT THE FUCK.

One voice form the crowd shouts...a bastard with a pack of Prawn Cocktail crisps ...that cunt just voted leave, rush the bastard. They cheered...
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RACIST KIPPER ALERT.
 
Just been out to get my democracy on. There were actually other people at the polling station, which was unusual. The beautiful weather, quite the opposite of London, here probably helps.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
Got some Turkish delights too, because why the hell not.

Seriously, when did Chomps/Fudges/Freddo hit 25p? I felt crazy old when I picked them up and immediately thought, these were 10p and then I remembered that was 20 years ago.
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I thought those were posh Kola Cubes for a second then, you got me excited.
 
Gone done voted. Anyone else's polling station in their old school? Everything in there is in miniature. Makes sense. I suppose.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
Got some Turkish delights too, because why the hell not.

Seriously, when did Chomps/Fudges/Freddo hit 25p? I felt crazy old when I picked them up and immediately thought, these were 10p and then I remembered that was 20 years ago.
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Speaking of which. I miss Taz bars. They were the shit.
 
TheGreatPotato said:
In Canada all federal elections are done using pencil and paper as well, I don't see what the fuss is about. I've been involved in the vote counting process as well, there is zero room for fraud. At every single step you have multiple people from all political parties present monitoring the counting, box opening, etc. They never leave the room where you vote, they are opened on the spot, counted, put away, etc, and the vote tallies are reported by phone calls/texts to each party, the elections office, and even the media sometimes.

Pencils have nothing to do with vote rigging.
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Ah buy you see, the reason that people are worried about vote rigging through use of pencils, is not due to any logic, it's because they're crazy.
 
Famassu said:
The price of cocoa doesn't remain the same, you know. AFAIK it's risen quite noticeably in the last 10 years, which at least partly explain diminishing sizes and/or raises in price. They can't sell that shit for a loss.
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Being the down right dodgy company that Kraft is I doubt they put any cocoa in the chocolate any more.

In all seriousness cocoa is getting rarer by the day and chocolate will become a luxury food item again.
 
TheGreatPotato said:
In Canada all federal elections are done using pencil and paper as well, I don't see what the fuss is about. I've been involved in the vote counting process as well, there is zero room for fraud. At every single step you have multiple people from all political parties present monitoring the counting, box opening, etc. They never leave the room where you vote, they are opened on the spot, counted, put away, etc, and the vote tallies are reported by phone calls/texts to each party, the elections office, and even the media sometimes.

Pencils have nothing to do with vote rigging.
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There's no vote rigging in the UK. I remember counting at NUS elections at Keele and we were all given this long lecture about electoral reform and there were independents from other Universities there to make sure everything was done right.

This isn't fucking Russia FFS.
 
Interesting article by the New York Times:

“The betting is just massive,” says Mike Smithson, founder and editor of PoliticalBetting.com, a website that is something like a Bloomberg terminal for people who wager on political events. He characterizes the referendum as “the biggest political betting event of all time, anywhere.”

On Tuesday and Wednesday alone, the Brexit vote attracted wagers worth more than £3 million ($4.4 million), most of it via online transactions, and three-fourths landing on remain, Mr. Smithson estimated.
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I've thought it interesting throughout how much the betting markets have been leaning towards Remain, will be interesting to see if they are vindicated..
 
Ovek said:
Being the down right dodgy company that Kraft is I doubt they put any cocoa in the chocolate any more.

In all seriousness cocoa is getting rarer by the day and chocolate will become a luxury food item again.
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Fun fact: My local university is working on developing new strains of cocoa to increase their resilience and yields in western Africa. They are literally trying to save chocolate.

That reminds me I should see about getting some stock for tonight.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
Got some Turkish delights too, because why the hell not.

Seriously, when did Chomps/Fudges/Freddo hit 25p? I felt crazy old when I picked them up and immediately thought, these were 10p and then I remembered that was 20 years ago.
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yeah, I remember back in school they were 10p for me. I also remember when walkers crisps had random £10 and £20 notes in them. I remember one kid got £20 in his lunch one day, shouted it out, then was beaten up and robbed of it shortly thereafter

I also remember our geography teacher used to throw board rubbers at us if we weren't paying attention and made me stand next to the "bin of shame" every lesson if I didn't have my top button and tie done up fully - which was every lesson

those were the days

edit: I also remember one day he made us do revision on the premiership league game of yeovil town fc that was occuring over the weekend, and if we didn't get at least 75% on the test on Monday we all got lunchtime detention and had to watch the match
 
JonnyDBrit said:
Fun fact: My local university is working on developing new strains of cocoa to increase their resilience and yields in western Africa. They are literally trying to save chocolate.

That reminds me I should see about getting some stock for tonight.
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They're doing Odin's work there.
 
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