Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

Did you vote for the side that is going to win?


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Turnout : 78%

Remain : 52%
Leave : 48%

Note : England please vote leave and gimme Indyref 2!

You need a leave vote and and miraculous rise in the oil price for that, sorry about that! :P
 
Whenever I have voted in the US they just have pens in the booth and you feed your ballot into a machine. Are pencils common over there? I guess the worry would be that they smudge or fade away easier than pens.
 
God knows if I'm right on this, but it is where my instincts are leading me. We'll see if I'm totally wrong.

Leave: 52%
Remain: 48%

Turnout: 71%
 
Maybe London polling stations can stay open longer? Is there any precedent for this?
Won't happen, the best they can do based on what we saw in General Elections is lock anyone who is physically queueing outside a polling station inside and allow them to vote post 10pm.

Luckily I have the day off work, but if my usual train home was significantly disrupted I could easily have missed 10pm.

Basically it's a case of 'shit happens'. if there was a chance one would miss the time then postal or proxy vote are better options.
 
GAF PREDICTIONS

Right, I'm ready to reopen the GAF predictions spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Atr8Mb1up4xLLJXJT1OqPgnqBEF_4iBz0Dbvy9mDWr0/edit?usp=sharing

Any new predictions, post them and I'll add them in.

If you've already given a prediction, but want to update it, then do as well. Personally while I'm still happy with my percentage - I've upped turnout because I've changed my mind on that.

EDIT: Maybe I should add a column for best British sweet too.

Going predict a bit of a surprise here.

Turnout: 74%

Remain: 49%
Leave: 51%

Best British Sweet: Wine Gums
 
GAF PREDICTIONS

Right, I'm ready to reopen the GAF predictions spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Atr8Mb1up4xLLJXJT1OqPgnqBEF_4iBz0Dbvy9mDWr0/edit?usp=sharing

Any new predictions, post them and I'll add them in.

If you've already given a prediction, but want to update it, then do as well. Personally while I'm still happy with my percentage - I've upped turnout because I've changed my mind on that.


EDIT: Maybe I should add a column for best British sweet too.

Remain: 63%
Leave: 37%
Turnout: 52%
 
Perhaps a bit late and not sure if posted already, copied from a well know blog in the Netherlands:

Dear Brits,

Allow us a minute of your time to tell you an anecdote about democracy in the European Union.

Last April, the Netherlands held a national referendum on the EU Association Treaty with Ukraine. We, the organisers, wanted to have a more direct say in European Union developments, because we are worried about the ongoing and highly undemocratic expansionism of the EU. No government in Europe should be allowed to make far-reaching decisions without a majority consent.

So we set out to do something about it, and thanks to a successful Internet campaign and nearly half a million signatures, we forced our government to hold a referendum.

On April 6, a convincing 61 percent of the Dutch voters said "No" to the undesirable Association Treaty. So was that the end of that? Was democracy saved from the talons of the EU technocrats?

Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.

As the organizers of the Dutch referendum, we are not here to meddle in your national business. Dear Lord no -- We're not Brussels. But we do feel a need to tell you our story. Because democracy matters. And in the European Union - the people's voices are silenced and shunned.

Read and share our story. Decide for yourself how highly you value the sovereignty of your national democracy. And cast your vote accordingly on June 23rd.

With love,
Your democratic friends from the Netherlands
 
Anybody going to be up watching the results throughout the night?

I'll have BBC news on mute in the bedroom so I can check it whenever I wake throughout the night. If it looks like it's getting exciting I'll sit up and watch and go into work late tomorrow (flexi time ftw).
 
Victoria, London Bridge and Waterloo can all account for far more than 10k...

I'm hoping many of these folk are still within the boundaries of London so there'll be enough time.

But previously when there have been problems with the trains I've still managed to get home well before ten (I'm in Elmbridge). The only time I haven't is when I've got ridiculously drunk. :(
 
Voted, ended up going remain (no thanks to that crap campaign though).

Was tempted to go vote leave and grab the popcorn as either way it won't effect me too much.
 
Voted remain but found it very hard. I wanted to vote leave but was scared for the economy. I hate the EU but I let my head rule my heart.
 
Victoria, London Bridge and Waterloo can all account for far more than 10k...
But not all of them won't have voted yet, not all will miss the stations closing, not all will vote the same way etc.
Just doesn't seem like it could really be enough to turn the tide either way. Obviously not great though.
 
Perhaps a bit late and not sure if posted already, copied from a well know blog in the Netherlands:

Dear Brits,

Allow us a minute of your time to tell you an anecdote about democracy in the European Union.

Last April, the Netherlands held a national referendum on the EU Association Treaty with Ukraine. We, the organisers, wanted to have a more direct say in European Union developments, because we are worried about the ongoing and highly undemocratic expansionism of the EU. No government in Europe should be allowed to make far-reaching decisions without a majority consent.

So we set out to do something about it, and thanks to a successful Internet campaign and nearly half a million signatures, we forced our government to hold a referendum.

On April 6, a convincing 61 percent of the Dutch voters said "No" to the undesirable Association Treaty. So was that the end of that? Was democracy saved from the talons of the EU technocrats?

Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.

As the organizers of the Dutch referendum, we are not here to meddle in your national business. Dear Lord no -- We're not Brussels. But we do feel a need to tell you our story. Because democracy matters. And in the European Union - the people's voices are silenced and shunned.

Read and share our story. Decide for yourself how highly you value the sovereignty of your national democracy. And cast your vote accordingly on June 23rd.

With love,
Your democratic friends from the Netherlands

Guess they should vote for a better prime minister maybe then, I dont see what this has to do with the EU itself.
 
Perhaps a bit late and not sure if posted already, copied from a well know blog in the Netherlands:

Dear Brits,

Allow us a minute of your time to tell you an anecdote about democracy in the European Union.

Last April, the Netherlands held a national referendum on the EU Association Treaty with Ukraine. We, the organisers, wanted to have a more direct say in European Union developments, because we are worried about the ongoing and highly undemocratic expansionism of the EU. No government in Europe should be allowed to make far-reaching decisions without a majority consent.

So we set out to do something about it, and thanks to a successful Internet campaign and nearly half a million signatures, we forced our government to hold a referendum.

On April 6, a convincing 61 percent of the Dutch voters said "No" to the undesirable Association Treaty. So was that the end of that? Was democracy saved from the talons of the EU technocrats?

Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.

As the organizers of the Dutch referendum, we are not here to meddle in your national business. Dear Lord no -- We're not Brussels. But we do feel a need to tell you our story. Because democracy matters. And in the European Union - the people's voices are silenced and shunned.

Read and share our story. Decide for yourself how highly you value the sovereignty of your national democracy. And cast your vote accordingly on June 23rd.

With love,
Your democratic friends from the Netherlands



So, how is that directly the EU's fault?
 
Anybody going to be up watching the results throughout the night?

I'll probably stay up until about 2 / 3AM to see a few results, but I've got a damn meeting at 9AM tomorrow morning..

Polling station was busy than I expected tonight, far more people in there than the same time of day at last years general election.

Remain: 54%
Leave: 46%
Turnout: 72%
 
Is it too late to vote for flying saucers?

Flying-Saucers-2KIN-SHE-FLS.jpg
 
But not all of them won't have voted yet, not all will miss the stations closing, not all will vote the same way etc.
Just doesn't seem like it could really be enough to turn the tide either way. Obviously not great though.

Been in a taxi from Mayfair, need to get to warlingham, barely made it to Wandsworth in 60mins. Won't get to my polling station till 9.30 at this rate
 
If Remain loses by a margin of, say, however many people in London aren't able to get to their polling stations or have been suitably discouraged, I'm going to be very salty. I appreciate the odds of that are low but it's still incredibly frustrating.

Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.

Um...
 
Well I've been and voted to Remain, as has my other half. The polling officer in this section of East Lancashire said about half the eligible folk have voted today. To be honest I thought they'd be a queue but we just meandered in, voted and were out in a couple of minutes.

For the record I'm going to go for -

53% Remain
47% Leave
75% Turnout.

By the time I get home from walking the hound prior to work tomorrow the results should be in.

Also - Time to get off facebook. So many of my nuttier, and more conspiracy minded friends, are sharing posts about how the banking cabal that rule us all won't let us leave the EU anyway. At least most of them have said they're not going to vote as it's pointless.

To those staying up all night - have fun :-)
 
Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.

As the organizers of the Dutch referendum, we are not here to meddle in your national business. Dear Lord no -- We're not Brussels. But we do feel a need to tell you our story. Because democracy matters. And in the European Union - the people's voices are silenced and shunned.

Thanks for posting this. It's essentially what our Leave campaigners have been saying over the last few weeks (or years in UKIPs case).

Nice to hear an outside voice.
 
One thing that should be worth bearing in mind - the party machines are all predominantly behind remain except for the Tories who are split - GOTV is incredibly important and Vote Leave aren't exactly a long term organisation and presumably only really have the UKIP ground machine (or what exists of it) to help them.

I don't think we can discount the effect party activity on the ground can have.
 
Thanks for posting this. It's essentially what our Leave campaigners have been saying over the last few weeks (or years in UKIPs case).

Nice to hear an outside voice.

Read again what you quoted. It was the decision of the Dutch prime-minister wrongly blamed on EU. But I agree, that's what UKIP did for years.
 
I think I'm just going to go to bed and see the result in the morning. The slow trickle would be too much without keeping up with how regional voting is projected to go. I'd rather rip the plaster off in one.
 
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