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[e90Mark]

My story.

So, I was doing a bunch of research a few weeks ago because I really wanted to see what all the fuss was about.

I knew I wanted 2560 x 1440 and 27" so that left 3 choices...

- Asus PG279Q ROG Swift
- Acer XB271HU
- Dell S2716DG

The Dell is harder to obtain in Canada so I decided to look at reviews for the A&A. It appeared that the consensus was that both monitors are a gamble as far as quality control goes, but you have a bit better chance with the Acer. Plus, I could easily order the Acer from BestBuy.ca and their return policy is badass.

Since I hate backlight bleeding more than any defects a monitor can have (except stuck pixels - but I classify that as broken) I ordered 6 of the Acer from BestBuy to ensure I received one that I was happy with. It is crazy to think you need to even worry about that when paying 1k for a monitor, but I digress.

Delivery day came. The delivery guy thought I was insane as he loaded 6 monitors out of his van. I excitedly started opening the boxes.

I set all monitors to 25 brightness before assessing the backlight bleeding.

The first monitor had insanely bad yellowish bleed in the bottom right corner. I boxed it back up and tried the next one.

1. Yellowish bleed, bottom right.
2. Bright white bleed, bottom right.
3. Yellowish bleed again in bottom right, some in bottom left
4. White bleed in bottom right, much better than the others - still noticeable in dark scenes/games
5. Bright white, bottom right
6. Yellowish, bottom right

Deflated. I decided I might be able to live with monitor #4, so I boxed up the rest. I setup the monitor, setup control panel and started playing games.

Holy moly at the difference. Overwatch felt like a much faster game and was MORE enjoyable to play, WoW was very smooth, Witcher 3 was beautiful and smooth (had to bump down to high because of the resolution increase).

Every game was so much more enjoyable to play, it's hard to explain other than that.

I went a week (Best Buy's return policy is 14 days) with my new monitor, but I just couldn't stop noticing the bleeding in the bottom right corner when games would fade to black. I kept thinking about how much I paid for the thing and eventually decided to pack it up with the rest of them and spend an hour at Best Buy returning them.

At home; I hooked up my old monitor and started playing Overwatch. I was in shock. I honestly thought something was wrong, it felt like it was running at 30fps. So I turned on the FPS overlay to double check. Nope, it was running at solid 60fps. I couldn't believe the difference. I couldn't believe I had been playing like this all along. The game felt insanely sluggish and I was playing poorly because of it.

So... I started looking at the Dell S2716DG.

I ordered one from Newegg.ca and it arrives today. Here's hoping I don't have to return it to Newegg, because they don't have physical stores.


I noticed some people above saying they're not sure if it is worth it. I say to that; just try going back to your old 60hz monitor and see what you think then.

PS: Those 6 Acer monitors are still at the Best Buy in Cambridge, Ontario - if anyone wants to try and get a open box deal on them and you don't mind backlight bleeding.

Your horror story about the IPS models are exactly why I didn't even bother to consider one. I'm hoping those new VA panels will be a lot better.

I just got my S2716DG 2 days ago, and I love it. Out of the 1440p G-sync monitors, it's probably the most consistent in terms of quality. I don't notice any blb, and the uniformity on my unit seems to be solid.

Yes, it's a TN but its an 8-bit with no dithering. After a calibration, I think it looks really good. You should be happy with yours.

 

[riflen]

Do any of these G-Sync monitors handle non-native scaling themselves or is it always up to your videocard? Unlike my last monitor, my G-Sync Acer doesn't scale anything on its own.

(I ask because I'm seeing blurring even when scaling from a resolution that's a perfect multiple of my native resolution. It should be perfectly sharp but Nvidia's scaling solution always introduces blurring)

No. G-Sync displays have no scalar hardware. The GPU is responsible.

 

[lionpants]

Your horror story about the IPS models are exactly why I didn't even bother to consider one. I'm hoping those new VA panels will be a lot better.

I just got my S2716DG 2 days ago, and I love it. Out of the 1440p G-sync monitors, it's probably the most consistent in terms of quality. I don't notice any blb, and the uniformity on my unit seems to be solid.

Yes, it's a TN but its an 8-bit with no dithering. After a calibration, I think it looks really good. You should be happy with yours.

Sweet, good to hear. It's going to be a long day at work.

I don't understand how some people are fine with the bleeding on the Asus/Acer monitors. How do you guys not constantly notice it while using it? Was I just insanely unlucky? Is it possible to get an IPS that is actually decent?

 

[aeolist]

i got the s2716dg a few months back and it's been a huge improvement for me. contrast isn't great but i have zero bleeding so i'm happy.

 

[Durante]

I can deal slightly better with bleeding than I can with TN hue shift.

But if I spend a lot of money on a monitor I really don't want either of those, which is why I'm waiting for those new VA panels (or ideally an OLED G-sync monitor).

 

[cackhyena]

I feel like I'm going to be waiting forever if I'm wanting a solid price reduction, but demanding superior quality. The moment bleeding is a small percentage, and cost comes down, OLED will come out and cost a ton again and I'll want that...

 

[lionpants]

I can deal slightly better with bleeding than I can with TN hue shift.

I don't understand the hue shift problem. All the TN panels I have had, I haven't really noticed it. Maybe because I am always looking directly at my monitor?

Doesn't IPS have the same problem though? When I move my head, the lighting of an IPS monitor changes. Sure the colours don't, but you still can't see shit from the side.

 

[opticalmace]

I don't understand the hue shift problem. All the TN panels I have had, I haven't really noticed it. Maybe because I am always looking directly at my monitor?

Doesn't IPS have the same problem though? When I move my head, the lighting of an IPS monitor changes. Sure the colours don't, but you still can't see shit from the side.

I have a couple IPS (or IPS-type) panels in the house. I can still read this post from insane angles, almost edge on, without much trouble.

To me TN vs IPS is a huge, huge difference. Though maybe it depends on how good of a TN panel and how crappy of an IPS panel one is considering?

 

[PFD]

My story.

So, I was doing a bunch of research a few weeks ago because I really wanted to see what all the fuss was about.

I knew I wanted 2560 x 1440 and 27" so that left 3 choices...

- Asus PG279Q ROG Swift
- Acer XB271HU
- Dell S2716DG

The Dell is harder to obtain in Canada so I decided to look at reviews for the A&A. It appeared that the consensus was that both monitors are a gamble as far as quality control goes, but you have a bit better chance with the Acer. Plus, I could easily order the Acer from BestBuy.ca and their return policy is badass.

Since I hate backlight bleeding more than any defects a monitor can have (except stuck pixels - but I classify that as broken) I ordered 6 of the Acer from BestBuy to ensure I received one that I was happy with. It is crazy to think you need to even worry about that when paying 1k for a monitor, but I digress.

Delivery day came. The delivery guy thought I was insane as he loaded 6 monitors out of his van. I excitedly started opening the boxes.

I set all monitors to 25 brightness before assessing the backlight bleeding.

The first monitor had insanely bad yellowish bleed in the bottom right corner. I boxed it back up and tried the next one.

1. Yellowish bleed, bottom right.
2. Bright white bleed, bottom right.
3. Yellowish bleed again in bottom right, some in bottom left
4. White bleed in bottom right, much better than the others - still noticeable in dark scenes/games
5. Bright white, bottom right
6. Yellowish, bottom right

Deflated. I decided I might be able to live with monitor #4, so I boxed up the rest. I setup the monitor, setup control panel and started playing games.

Holy moly at the difference. Overwatch felt like a much faster game and was MORE enjoyable to play, WoW was very smooth, Witcher 3 was beautiful and smooth (had to bump down to high because of the resolution increase).

Every game was so much more enjoyable to play, it's hard to explain other than that.

I went a week (Best Buy's return policy is 14 days) with my new monitor, but I just couldn't stop noticing the bleeding in the bottom right corner when games would fade to black. I kept thinking about how much I paid for the thing and eventually decided to pack it up with the rest of them and spend an hour at Best Buy returning them.

At home; I hooked up my old monitor and started playing Overwatch. I was in shock. I honestly thought something was wrong, it felt like it was running at 30fps. So I turned on the FPS overlay to double check. Nope, it was running at solid 60fps. I couldn't believe the difference. I couldn't believe I had been playing like this all along. The game felt insanely sluggish and I was playing poorly because of it.

So... I started looking at the Dell S2716DG.

I ordered one from Newegg.ca and it arrives today. Here's hoping I don't have to return it to Newegg, because they don't have physical stores.


I noticed some people above saying they're not sure if it is worth it. I say to that; just try going back to your old 60hz monitor and see what you think then.

PS: Those 6 Acer monitors are still at the Best Buy in Cambridge, Ontario - if anyone wants to try and get a open box deal on them and you don't mind backlight bleeding.

I'm looking to buy a 21:9 IPS G-Sync monitor, but stories like this have me worried. I don't wanna spend 1.5K CAD on a monitor only to get stuck with terrible backlight bleed.

 

[Zabojnik]

Is backlight bleeding a potential problem on VA panels as well ... or is it usually less of an issue there, because of how the tech works?

 

[Agkel]

The Dell S2716DG is on sale at newegg right now for 480. I suggest jumping on that quick since they tend to last less than a day.

Just got mine that I bought from newegg through ebay 3 days ago. It has one damn stuck pixel at the bottom right of the screen. I tried using jscreenfix for 2 hours to no avail.

Do you guys think it'll be easy to return?

edit: also I'm finding the colors a bit washed out. Is it because of the 1,000:1 contrast ratio? I tried using tft color profile and adjusting through nvidias control panel and altough the colors are serviceable, I find that My old acer p243w (tn panel too 3,000:1 contrast) produces much better colors(especially the yellows).

 

[scoobs]

I'm looking to buy a 21:9 IPS G-Sync monitor, but stories like this have me worried. I don't wanna spend 1.5K CAD on a monitor only to get stuck with terrible backlight bleed.

I bought the same monitor but from Amazon, and its 100% perfect, zero issues with anything. This guy got mega unlucky me thinks. I too was worried I'd get screwed over with a bad unit, but nah, mine is perfect. Worst case scenario you return it for a new one and have to wait a couple more days.

 

[flipswitch]

I'm happy with my Acer.

After calibration very little backlight bleed in a dark room.

 

[SilentRage47]

I just bought a Dell s2716dg.
I'm not really sure if this is an issue or it's just but me but it seems to me that when there's a fast scene the image is not clear and I can "see the pixels". I don't know how to explain this, maybe It's just the fact that I'm using a 27" at the same distance I was using a 24".

 

[Agkel]

I just bought a Dell s2716dg.
I'm not really sure if this is an issue or it's just but me but it seems to me that when there's a fast scene the image is not clear and I can "see the pixels". I don't know how to explain this, maybe It's just the fact that I'm using a 27" at the same distance I was using a 24".

Are you running fast mode? In fast mode this monitor drives hard and creates a "shadow" on fast movement. I know it's counter intuitive but it's how it works with this monitor.

you can check what I mean by mouse scrolling gaf while on dark theme. You can check if your fast or normal mode in the OSD

 

[SilentRage47]

Are you running fast mode? In fast mode this monitor drives hard and creates a "shadow" on fast movement. I know it's counter intuitive but it's how it works with this monitor.

you can check what I mean by mouse scrolling gaf while on dark theme. You can check if your fast or normal mode in the OSD

Yeah, I'm already in normal mode...Fast mode gives me terrible ghosting.

 

[HooYaH]

Just got mine that I bought from newegg through ebay 3 days ago. It has one damn stuck pixel at the bottom right of the screen. I tried using jscreenfix for 2 hours to no avail.

Do you guys think it'll be easy to return?

edit: also I'm finding the colors a bit washed out. Is it because of the 1,000:1 contrast ratio? I tried using tft color profile and adjusting through nvidias control panel and altough the colors are serviceable, I find that My old acer p243w (tn panel too 3,000:1 contrast) produces much better colors(especially the yellows).

I didn't like TFT profile. If you go to overclock.net and search for the main 2716dg thread, try to find majnu or yellows calibration. I think those are the better ones.

Got the links:

majnu
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/anyone-else-excited-for-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1900_100#post_24867714

yellows
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/anyone-else-excited-for-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1800_100#post_24862120

 

[ohyouagain]

My Z35 is finally working as planned.
Thank you Gods of Sillicon.

 

[Agkel]

Yeah, I'm already in normal mode...Fast mode gives me terrible ghosting.

Hmm that's odd, I sit about 20~24 inches from mine and I dont have that effect. Could be my eyes are crappy though.

I didn't like TFT profile. If you go to overclock.net and search for the main 2716dg thread, try to find majnu or yellows calibration. I think those are the better ones.

Got the links:

majnu
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/anyone-else-excited-for-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1900_100#post_24867714

yellows
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/anyone-else-excited-for-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1800_100#post_24862120

Thanks going to give those a try!

Hopefully I can replace the monitor with one that is pixel perfect. Despite it's shortcomings, I'm still liking this panel quite a bit.

Edit: Holy shit dude! soooo much better than tft profile. I havent tried yellows since I dont have an account to download. But majnus profiles is just what I was looking for!
Just had to lower my green a little bit since my screen runs greenish and up the brightness to 25. The yellows are popping out much better, with some tinkering I'll get there!

Damn it, now I wish I didnt have to go through the whole eschange process

 

[SilentRage47]

I did some digging and found out that the problem I was referring is indeed Pixel Inversion,seems to be pretty common in TN panels.

You can find an example in this review: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-s2716dg/

I don't think there's a solution to this.

 

[lionpants]

Hmm that's odd, I sit about 20~24 inches from mine and I dont have that effect. Could be my eyes are crappy though.



Thanks going to give those a try!

Hopefully I can replace the monitor with one that is pixel perfect. Despite it's shortcomings, I'm still liking this panel quite a bit.

Edit: Holy shit dude! soooo much better than tft profile. I havent tried yellows since I dont have an account to download. But majnus profiles is just what I was looking for!
Just had to lower my green a little bit since my screen runs greenish and up the brightness to 25. The yellows are popping out much better, with some tinkering I'll get there!

Damn it, now I wish I didnt have to go through the whole eschange process

So the Dell came in last night.

Good news, no dead pixels or back light bleeding.

Bad news, the colours are truly awful out of the box (which I expected). Why the hell do they have the gamma so high? I spent a good chunk of time last night messing around with gamma and colours but I couldn't find something I like. I'll try those links tonight!

Also... I want to run all my games in Fullscreen but it appears that some games don't have the option to obey desktop gamma while in fullscreen so I have to resort to borderless. And then GSync doesn't seem to work all the time. Do the color profiles eliminate this annoyance if I use them instead of NCP?

 

[e90Mark]

Just got mine that I bought from newegg through ebay 3 days ago. It has one damn stuck pixel at the bottom right of the screen. I tried using jscreenfix for 2 hours to no avail.

Do you guys think it'll be easy to return?

edit: also I'm finding the colors a bit washed out. Is it because of the 1,000:1 contrast ratio? I tried using tft color profile and adjusting through nvidias control panel and altough the colors are serviceable, I find that My old acer p243w (tn panel too 3,000:1 contrast) produces much better colors(especially the yellows).

Try rubbing the pixel? I've never had luck with those color flasher things, but actually had luck getting stuck pixels to move by rubbing them.

I didn't like TFT profile. If you go to overclock.net and search for the main 2716dg thread, try to find majnu or yellows calibration. I think those are the better ones.

Got the links:

majnu
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/anyone-else-excited-for-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1900_100#post_24867714

yellows
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/anyone-else-excited-for-the-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1800_100#post_24862120

Thanks for those. I want to try those out.
I'm currently using pcmonitors.info calibration for mine.

 

[lionpants]

I found Yellow's configuration to be the most effective for me. Colors are still a bit washed out (specially yellow), but that's probably because I'm used to my IPS. They're still a shit-ton better than the stock settings and I'm sure I'll get used to it in some time.

 

[Agkel]

I did some digging and found out that the problem I was referring is indeed Pixel Inversion,seems to be pretty common in TN panels.

I don't think there's a solution to this.

Oh yeah, there's not. It's a voltage thing of the panel. I had a website where you could see the variation of voltage throughout the panel. l'll see if I can find it.

edit: found it http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php

Try rubbing the pixel? I've never had luck with those color flasher things, but actually had luck getting stuck pixels to move by rubbing them.

I did but it didnt get it unstuck It starts out fine displaying all the colors, then once it warms up about 30~45 secs it gets stuck on red.

I found Yellow's configuration to be the most effective for me. Colors are still a bit washed out (specially yellow), but that's probably because I'm used to my IPS. They're still a shit-ton better than the stock settings and I'm sure I'll get used to it in some time.

Just, Downloaded yellows and indeed his are the better ones with Digital Vibrance somewhere between 55~60. I agree the yellow still look washed out unfortunately.

I'm considering returning it and waiting for new panels or getting one of the IPS ones. As much as I love the G-Sync, I shouldn't have to spend half the time I'm using the monitor, that cost ~$500, convincing myself that it's worth it.

 

[Agkel]

Those of you with a S2716dg that feel the colors are washed out, try these settings and see if you like them:

Yellows icc profile posted above ^^^

OSD:
R-G-B 98-99-96 With small variance on G and B if your panel runs hard on the cool side
Bright: 35%
Contr: 75%

Nvidia Control panel:
Use Nvidia settings
Bright 40%
Contr 50%
Gamma:75%

Digital Vibrance 45~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)

Those are the best setting I could get to make everything pop out, without the yellows looking either super washed out or Neon color yellow and orange that actually looks sharp orange not some weird mix orange

 

[e90Mark]

Those of you with a S2716dg that feel the colors are washed out, try these settings and see if you like them:

Yellows icc profile posted above ^^^

OSD:
R-G-B 98-99-96 With small variance on G and B if your panel runs hard on the cool side
Bright: 35%
Contr: 75%

Nvidia Control panel:
Use Nvidia settings
Bright 40%
Contr 50%
Gamma:75%

Digital Vibrance 45~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)

Those are the best setting I could get to make everything pop out, without the yellows looking either super washed out or Neon color yellow and orange that actually looks sharp orange not some weird mix orange

Gonna try this out. Thanks

 

[Agkel]

Gonna try this out. Thanks

Let me know what you think!

Ive been working for a few hours now, on some super aggressive settings to offset how cool this monitor runs and been able to get ALL colors to pop out equally.

I am definitely getting some success, been able to reproduce what my old monitor was able to put out in terms of color. Ill post those setting along some pictures when I'm done.

 

[Agkel]

Ok my dear bros and brodettes,

Spent enough time trying to config this to a point that I feel comfortable keeping it, if newegg decides they can swap mine for one that doesn't have a stuck pixel.

You may not like these settings at all but try them out. You have nothing to lose. Also remember to write down your current settings in case you want to revert back.

Apply Yellows ICC profile posted above ^^^

OSD settings:
R-G-B : 100-94-90
Bright: 40~55% (Revisit this setting once you've done the rest) Contrast: 75%

NVIDIA desktop color settings:
Use NVIDIAS setting checked

Bright: 55%
Contr: 60%
Gamma: .75

Digital Vibrance 50~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)
Hue: 354

This monitor has huuuge problems with its red. With yellows and oranges suffering big time, also bright pinks and flesh tones. I'm going to use these setting for a few days but I'm not 100% if I'm going to keep it or not.

edit:
Last set of settings I PROMISE!!! These are good if you like dark blacks and saturated colors ala Samsung phones and tablets. Keep in mind this means you lose a tiny bit of detail but definitely worth it IMO.
I apologize for spamming a little bit here but I figure I would post all of my settings Ive been working on in case it actually helps anyone.
Plus it kind of works as a record for me


OSD settings:
R-G-B : 100-94-90
Bright: 60~80% (Revisit this setting once you've done the rest) Contrast: 75%

NVIDIA desktop color settings:
Use NVIDIAS setting checked

Bright: 45%
Contr: 50%~70% You cant go wrong here, you either get your dark blacks or a little more detail. Mostly preference
Gamma: .90

Digital Vibrance 50~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)
Hue: 355

 

[SilentRage47]

Ok my dear bros and brodettes,

Spent enough time trying to config this to a point that I feel comfortable keeping it, if newegg decides they can swap mine for one that doesn't have a stuck pixel.

You may not like these settings at all but try them out. You have nothing to lose. Also remember to write down your current settings in case you want to revert back.

Apply Yellows ICC profile posted above ^^^

OSD settings:
R-G-B : 100-94-90
Bright: 40~55% (Revisit this setting once you've done the rest) Contrast: 75%

NVIDIA desktop color settings:
Use NVIDIAS setting checked

Bright: 55%
Contr: 60%
Gamma: .75

Digital Vibrance 50~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)
Hue: 354

This monitor has huuuge problems with its red. With yellows and oranges suffering big time, also bright pinks and flesh tones. I'm going to use these setting for a few days but I'm not 100% if I'm going to keep it or not.

edit:
Last set of settings I PROMISE!!! These are good if you like dark blacks and saturated colors ala Samsung phones and tablets. Keep in mind this means you lose a tiny bit of detail but definitely worth it IMO.
I apologize for spamming a little bit here but I figure I would post all of my settings Ive been working on in case it actually helps anyone.
Plus it kind of works as a record for me


OSD settings:
R-G-B : 100-94-90
Bright: 60~80% (Revisit this setting once you've done the rest) Contrast: 75%

NVIDIA desktop color settings:
Use NVIDIAS setting checked

Bright: 45%
Contr: 50%~70% You cant go wrong here, you either get your dark blacks or a little more detail. Mostly preference
Gamma: .90

Digital Vibrance 50~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)
Hue: 355

Well, I tried your setting but a contrast that high in the OSD gives me a lot of ghosting, you can see just by scrolling some text on a white background. Colors wise I think the yellow profile it's pretty good, way better than the tft's one

 

[Agkel]

Well, I tried your setting but a contrast that high in the OSD gives me a lot of ghosting, you can see just by scrolling some text on a white background. Colors wise I think the yellow profile it's pretty good, way better than the tft's one

Hmmm you're right. I didnt notice since I tend to run dark themes on websites. Well poop, I was kind of happy with the settings but eventually I'll encounter the ghosting and itll piss me off...

edit:
What video card are you running right now? It could be a symptom of the monitor running at 120 Mhz if you're using a card below the 900 series. I'm getting a 1080 ftw later this week for my new build and I'll test my setting at 144Mhz and see if that makes it go away. If it does I'll keep the Dell otherwise I'll probably go for an Acer

 

[SilentRage47]

Hmmm you're right. I didnt notice since I tend to run dark themes on websites. Well poop, I was kind of happy with the settings but eventually I'll encounter the ghosting and itll piss me off...

edit:
What video card are you running right now? It could be a symptom of the monitor running at 120 Mhz if you're using a card below the 900 series. I'm getting a 1080 ftw later this week for my new build and I'll test my setting at 144Mhz and see if that makes it go away. If it does I'll keep the Dell otherwise I'll probably go for an Acer

144hz with a 970, with low contrast I've no ghosting at all.

 

[The Hamburglar]

If I buy a 1440 monitor but want to display a game at 1080p for performance reasons, does that work ok? I know you're supposed to use native display but if I want to hit 120fps I might have to cut back on resolution.

 

[Vuze]

If I buy a 1440 monitor but want to display a game at 1080p for performance reasons, does that work ok? I know you're supposed to use native display but if I want to hit 120fps I might have to cut back on resolution.

Wouldn't recommend it for fullscreen since 1080t looks butt ugly upscaled to 1440, but yeah it's fine in windowed mode.

 

[The Hamburglar]

Wouldn't recommend it for fullscreen since 1080t looks butt ugly upscaled to 1440, but yeah it's fine in windowed mode.

doesn't window mode force v-sync though? I know you hardly lose any frames in window mode.

 

[lionpants]

Apply Yellows ICC profile posted above ^^^

OSD settings:
R-G-B : 100-94-90
Bright: 60~80% (Revisit this setting once you've done the rest) Contrast: 75%

NVIDIA desktop color settings:
Use NVIDIAS setting checked

Bright: 45%
Contr: 50%~70% You cant go wrong here, you either get your dark blacks or a little more detail. Mostly preference
Gamma: .90

Digital Vibrance 50~60% (your preference of how much saturation you like)
Hue: 355

Nice! I tried these settings and they look fantastic. The ghosting like mentioned above is a problem though (worth it for the deeper colors though). I can't believe how much of a difference the Hue setting made.

I tried a bit higher contrast in NCP to get rid of some banding, but then I found that blacks looked a bit crushed. So I stuck with this...

ICC Profile

Yellow's
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/...e-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1800_100#post_24862120

OSD

Bright: 60%
Cont: 75%

R: 100%
G: 94%
B: 90%

NVIDIA Settings

Bright: 45%
Cont: 60%
Gamma: .90

Vibrance: 50% (pinks are way off if I increase this at all, look at D.Va's suit in overwatch and it just looks wrong haha, so I left it at 50)
Hue: 355


Keep it up, maybe you can get as nice colors without the ghosting.

EDIT:

FFS, I just noticed a stuck pixel (black near the middle of the screen) - I swear it wasn't there before. Maybe the new settings make it more pronounced?

Has anyone dealt with Newegg RMA in Canada? DO they send a new one out while waiting for my RMA? Or do they have to receive it first and approve the RMA? I'm worried they wont take the RMA because of a single stuck pixel.

 

[Vuze]

doesn't window mode force v-sync though? I know you hardly lose any frames in window mode.

Can't say I've had any issues with Gsync enabled for windowed + fullscreen applications in terms of input lag etc. Don't have any scientific proof though

 

[_woLf]

So I am considering getting a gsync monitor, but I am unsure if I want 1080p or 1440p.

How well does 1440p scale down to 1080p? My gpu isn't really good enough to run a lot of games at 1440p.

How well does gsync perform in a multi monitor setup where the other monitor is a standard 1080p/60hz? Do apps need to be full screen?

 

[opticalmace]

So I am considering getting a gsync monitor, but I am unsure if I want 1080p or 1440p.

How well does 1440p scale down to 1080p? My gpu isn't really good enough to run a lot of games at 1440p.

How well does gsync perform in a multi monitor setup where the other monitor is a standard 1080p/60hz? Do apps need to be full screen?

About the first quesiton, what CPU/GPU do you have and what games do you play?

 

[_woLf]

About the first quesiton, what CPU/GPU do you have and what games do you play?

I have an i7 3770k and a GTX 970 FTW. I play just about everything. Overwatch, witcher, tomb raider, etc.

 

[opticalmace]

I have an i7 3770k and a GTX 970 FTW. I play just about everything. Overwatch, witcher, tomb raider, etc.

If it were me, I'd go 1440p. You'll have to turn down settings in some games but the 970 is really not that bad at 1440p. I had one with an Acer XB270HU and was mostly content. If I was on a 60Hz panel instead of 144Hz I wouldn't be upgrading to a Pascal card.

Comes down to the games you play though. I'd suggest checking some benchmarks to decide.. but I'd lean 1440p. If you're buying G Sync then you're paying a premium. Might as well pick the resolution that should last you a long time imho.

 

[e90Mark]

Nice! I tried these settings and they look fantastic. The ghosting like mentioned above is a problem though (worth it for the deeper colors though). I can't believe how much of a difference the Hue setting made.

I tried a bit higher contrast in NCP to get rid of some banding, but then I found that blacks looked a bit crushed. So I stuck with this...

ICC Profile

Yellow's
http://www.overclock.net/t/1577511/...e-dell-s2716dg-monitor/1800_100#post_24862120

OSD

Bright: 60%
Cont: 75%

R: 100%
G: 94%
B: 90%

NVIDIA Settings

Bright: 45%
Cont: 60%
Gamma: .90

Vibrance: 50% (pinks are way off if I increase this at all, look at D.Va's suit in overwatch and it just looks wrong haha, so I left it at 50)
Hue: 355


Keep it up, maybe you can get as nice colors without the ghosting.

EDIT:

FFS, I just noticed a stuck pixel (black near the middle of the screen) - I swear it wasn't there before. Maybe the new settings make it more pronounced?

Has anyone dealt with Newegg RMA in Canada? DO they send a new one out while waiting for my RMA? Or do they have to receive it first and approve the RMA? I'm worried they wont take the RMA because of a single stuck pixel.

I'm using these settings now, and woah.

Also, I've never dealt with Newegg RMA in Canada, but in the US they do not do cross shipping. So they would have to receive it first, then they send you a new one.

You're also probably right, about them probably not taking an RMA because of a single stuck pixel. You would have to order another one and return the current one.

 

[Agkel]

144hz with a 970, with low contrast I've no ghosting at all.

So even though I promise myself I would take a break from testing and calibrating, I just couldn't stay away hehe. Anyways the ghosting is still there even on low contrast.

It seems it is a problem with the panel itself. You can test this yourself:
-Use neogaf white theme
-Look at a big quote from someone (these show the ghosting better due to having to do a more drastic gtg or in this case BtW)
-Now either through NVIDIA settings or OSD vary the contrast brightness and /or gamma and you'll see that no matter the value, the ghosting is still there.*Granted a little less noticeable with some settings but definitely still present

It just seems that my settings make the ghosting more obvious due to higher brightness.
There's a lot of reports online of people having ghosting issues too

doesn't window mode force v-sync though? I know you hardly lose any frames in window mode.

No, it does not. As long as you set your desktop resolution and frequency through Nvidia control panel, it will run at 144Mhz in window mode

How well does 1440p scale down to 1080p? My gpu isn't really good enough to run a lot of games at 1440p.

How well does gsync perform in a multi monitor setup where the other monitor is a standard 1080p/60hz? Do apps need to be full screen?

-Pretty bad IMO, text is super blurry and graphics not as sharp as on a native 1080p
-I see no difference in performance while running my second 60hz screen

Nice! I tried these settings and they look fantastic. The ghosting like mentioned above is a problem though (worth it for the deeper colors though).

Keep it up, maybe you can get as nice colors without the ghosting.

EDIT:

FFS, I just noticed a stuck pixel (black near the middle of the screen) - I swear it wasn't there before. Maybe the new settings make it more pronounced?

Has anyone dealt with Newegg RMA in Canada?

I'm glad you like the settings! For the ghosting issue look at the top of this post.
I am still going to tinker for a little while longer to see if I can minimize it though. *For now try using dark themes, it helps a lot minimizing it.

Yes, the new setting could very well help showing previous stuck or dead pixel. In my case ironically it makes my stuck pixel less visible. Newegg US hasnt answered me about an exchange Good luck with yours!

I'm using these settings now, and woah.

You're also probably right, about them probably not taking an RMA because of a single stuck pixel. You would have to order another one and return the current one.

Awesome that you like the settings, yeah I'm considering doing this if they don't respond.

 

[Ozorov]

I can deal slightly better with bleeding than I can with TN hue shift.

But if I spend a lot of money on a monitor I really don't want either of those, which is why I'm waiting for those new VA panels (or ideally an OLED G-sync monitor).

When are they coming?

 

[lionpants]

I'm using these settings now, and woah.

Also, I've never dealt with Newegg RMA in Canada, but in the US they do not do cross shipping. So they would have to receive it first, then they send you a new one.

You're also probably right, about them probably not taking an RMA because of a single stuck pixel. You would have to order another one and return the current one.

Sweet. I'll try that if they don't bite, because I have already sent it off. I assume they charge restocking fees though... -.-?

 

[Agkel]

New egg just shot me down on the exchange which is kind of bullshit. I can eat a 15% restocking fee or I could probably force a full refund through ebay and credit card company, I rather not though.

I'm not convinced of the colors still, which kind of has me wanting to return it or exchange for a RoG.

I dont know I'm pissed and tired right now so I think I'll just go to bed now.

 

[Durante]

When are they coming?

The VA panels, or OLED G-sync?

The former should show up in screens late this year and throughout 2017 - more information here. The latter are more of a pipe dream, though they'd be easily doable technically IMHO.

 

[flipswitch]

Burn in on OLED screens, should this be a concern?

 

[Apoleptica]

So my 1080p 144 hz acer monitor allows either G-Sync or ULMB, but not both simultaneously. Which do I choose? I just got this monitor and I'm using a gtx 1070 with a 6700k, getting above 100 fps in most games.

 

[Vuze]

So my 1080p 144 hz acer monitor allows either G-Sync or ULMB, but not both simultaneously. Which do I choose? I just got this monitor and I'm using a gtx 1070 with a 6700k, getting above 100 fps in most games.

Not sure at which refresh rates your monitor allows ULMB. Either way, it needs to be stable. Then you can think about using ULMB. For fluctuating titles, use Gsync.

 

[Corpekata]

ULMB is for titles you can keep locked at 120 or 144 FPS, whatever your refresh is. Turning it on means you'll be dealing with screen tearing or judder from the disabled Gsync at 100ish FPS unless you can get the game and your monitor to output at 100hz.