Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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That's not what I'm complaining about. There are plenty of people in this thread complaint about news outlets showing stuff like this. Well, it's their job to do so.

And it is also their job to make sure parents aren't keeping their kids around when they show a man being shot point blank, even if it's from a distance. OF all the things to be arguing here you are arguing the fact that this video didn't have michael bay close ups and squibs on full display...
 

GhostBed

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The horrible, awful truth. Fuck this. god fucking damnit
 

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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Not entirely the same thing. There were multiple issues that started the civil war. The reconstruction period is what put us in this position. Lincolns successor screwed up.

Fair enough, I'm not American. From my limited knowledge the the civil war was mostly because of slavery.
 
The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.
 

TheStruggler

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guys/gals I know there is a lot of shit flying right now from twitter, bigoted news outlets etc but try not to post that stuff here. We know people try to capitalise on these events, just don't post that crap in here its only giving them more attention and pushing their agendas, lets push our own
 
The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.

Yeah...
 

Briarios

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That is exactly what he did. The officer had his gun drawn but still never saw it coming. These guys had to be ex spec-ops or something.

On CNN, someone who witnessed the exchange said the cop fired 3 times and hit the gunman in the back once, and he shook it off. He said it looked like he had some serious body armor on; the officer probably wasn't expecting that.
 

commedieu

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Other than the civil rights movement, and similar movements around the world, and the general advancement of progressive causes everywhere. But other than that, you're right, what has nonviolent resistance ever accomplished?

As if that was my point Wong.

Minorities shouldn't have to be protesting in any way, to let the world know police are executing people around the clock without accountability. The nation should be protesting on behalf of human beings. That hasn't happened. This entire problem is due to complacency of this country, along with ignoring the hard data behind racial bias in the justice system. Do you want to just gloss over that? This is why this is happening right now. Shit was allowed to get to this point because fuck all has been done to alleviate the issues of gun control, and police executions.
 

fleck0

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I think they did the right thing by showing it. This country is in the midst of an incredible crisis involving race, class and injustice, and there's no hiding from it or sanitizing it.

I wish had hadn't watched the video but I think I agree with this. Three weeks ago we had one of the largest mass gun murders in Orlando and it was back to business as usual preeeeetty quick.
 

Diablos

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The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.
It's very disturbing. I'm really upset.
 

royalan

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Am I seeing this correctly? He juked the cop around the pillar and shot him point blank on the other side?

WTF, this guy was calm and moving swiftly. Has to be ex-military or very trained.

Yes. Looking closely at the video, you see the shooter initially move toward and shoot at the left of the pillar, then changes course on a dime and catches the cop as he moves away from the shot to his right.

That's military. Nothing but.
 

Bad_Boy

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You think that's a powder keg? What if they're Muslims in addition to being black? Man this situation is so fucked up. What did they think they were accomplishing here?

i fear for that as well.

i had someone who i respected and thought was a rational person say some ignorant shit about muslims last night. i was speechless, and quickly disassociated myself with that person. i can only imagine what people with similar thoughts would feel if that were the case.

like i said, either way.... it's all fucked.
 

User1608

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The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.
I read about this and that just makes it even more tragic. It really sucks and I hope the scum, trash that did this rot in hell.
 
We all know that pistols are the main cause of gun related deaths

but this is the type of shit you get when you allow military grade rifles to be in the hand of the public

Anyone who says that "it's just a normal rifle that looks scary to idiots" can get fucked, because that's a fucking bullshit argument. These type of rifles are based on military designs and are just as deadly when you're talking range in hundreds of yards. Especially when these weapons have the capacity to hold magazines that can range from 30, to 40 bullets to even fucking 60 round drum magazines.

But we already know this, we'e only had years of mass shootings with these type of weapons.

You want to do something that can save lives? Ban magazines larger than five rounds to the public for rifles (and hand guns, those magainzes can be modified to still fit in the gun but only allow X bullets. Yea, black markets exist bla bla bla, but when Tommy gets his moms fucking gun and is forced to reload every five shots it at least gives people a chance to survive or make an attempt to make a move to fight back.
 

GhostBed

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You know what? Bombs are so indiscriminate, and this seemed like a surgical strike against police. Without knowing anything about the shooters, I'd hazard to guess they wouldn't want to risk a bomb harming non-police.

This is surely why they were using rifles instead of handguns. Much more accuracy so they don't accidently kill civilians. But why during a BLM march?!??!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! WTF is their agenda?!?!?!? thank god they were captured alive
 
The fact that the potential for all out civil war due to race related tensions 160 years after that exact thing happened is actually there in 2016 is just madness.

There is zero potential for a civil war to break out this year, or any year in the forseeable future. Who is going to fight who? This was a peaceful protest interrupted by one or two random psychos.
 

VanWinkle

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The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.

It's just going to make everything worse for EVERYONE and it makes me so mad.
 
Holy crap, average citizens with access to a sniper rifle...

I would like to point out that the term sniper rifle means all of jack and/or shit in all reality. Any weapon can be used to snipe a target, be it a .50 Barret or a .22 plinker pistol. If memory serves me, the most common sniper rifle the military uses is a run of the mill bolt action rifle with a scope. I probably have something close in my gun safe for varmint shooting and long range target shooting. Sniper rifle is a term used in fiction novels and news reports to make things seem worse than they actually are.

If this is OT, I apologize. But people tossing around bad terms like this is a major put peeve of mine and a major hindrance to actual legislation that is helpful being passed.
 

ironcreed

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This is why I hope the shooters weren't black or Muslim. If the shooters are one of those two, shit is going to explode.

It will explode either way. This shit needs to stop all around, regardless of the race of these idiots. The last thing we need is some trigger happy war with the cops or whites vs blacks where nothing but more hatred and violence is bred.
 

wispsmoke

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I don't think I can handle this.

Gaf, you might not be the greatest outlet, but at least you're a moderately anonymous forum. I'm just trying to express my confusion. I'm scared, over a lot of things (none of them immediate, since I don't live in Dallas and am at home), but afraid of what happens now. I'm really, deeply angry. Tired.

Shooting at a protest is beyond the pale. We've had years of #blacklivesmatter protests and this is not part of the frame. This isn't what happens. I don't understand it happening now, because I don't have any context. I don't know motive, identity, or the way we as a society should ideally react to this. I just don't know.
 

MThanded

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The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.
I'm already afraid for what tomorrow might bring.
 
The fucked things here is that Dallas PD was very supportive of the protest today. They even were live tweeting along. Now everyone will be on edge/reinforce the stereotypes and more innocent people are going to die. I'm so fucking upset right now I feel like I can't articulate myself correctly.

That's so fucked.

Why do people have to resort to violence and why do we give those people the tools to do it as efficiently as possible?

One of my coworkers (and "independent voter") uses them as his sole news source.

My friend is "independent" too. Really he just spews out whatever one-sided information he reads and has a close far-right friend feeding it to him.
 

Lonestar

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did a local station say the 2 people in custody on that highway bridge have been cleared and released?
 

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There is zero potential for a civil war to break out this year, or any year in the forseeable future. Who is going to fight who? This was a peaceful protest interrupted by one or two random psychos.

You can only push people so far. "Civil war" may have been a tad hyperbolic, but the trend is certainly heading in a similar direction.
 

Ambient80

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Wow. That Fox News footage is tragic. The poor cop got flanked and dare I say fooled by the shooter. The shooter shot at him from the right and then flanked him from the left almost immediately and just went in run and gun style with the Assault Rifle. Poor cop with his handgun had no chance. He didnt even have time to turn around. Mother fucking piece of shit had training for sure. His assault rifle allowed him to spray and pray in a way the cop just couldn't.

hero cop that. Gave his life. for every shitty cop who likes to kill black people there are those who give up their life to save us. absolutely tragic.
Unless his rifle was an automatic, the handgun could have been fired just as quickly.
 

Pyrrhus

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This is surely why they were using rifles instead of handguns. Much more accuracy so they don't accidently kill civilians. But why during a BLM march?!??!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! WTF is their agenda?!?!?!? thank god they were captured alive

Don't assume they were necessarily working for the cause of BLM, even in their own minds. This seems like it's designed to push a volatile situation over the edge to me.
 
There is zero potential for a civil war to break out this year, or any year in the forseeable future. Who is going to fight who? This was a peaceful protest interrupted by one or two random psychos.
It's unlikely, but you can see the path. Random psychos kill cops at protests, cops become more cautious and accidentally kill more innocents, you have a pressure cooker.
 

depths20XX

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Yes. Looking closely at the video, you see the shooter initially move toward and shoot at the left of the pillar, then changes course on a dime and catches the cop as he moves away from the shot to his right.

That's military. Nothing but.

Yup. The guy threw down cover fire and charged in on the opposite side.
 
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