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[Z O N E]

It's one thing to wear that whilst travelling, but it's a completely different thing to wear that, travel to comic-con at the same time a football match was finished and people were leaving to go home at the same station...

You could definitely see why someone would think the worst. Lol

 

[Fbh]

It's terrifying to think that somewhere nearby a man may have been glancing at a woman without her permission and that just went unnoticed because of this.

I see at leat one policewoman in that video.
Imagine all the catcallers they could have entrapped caught if she had been able to go running undercover instead of wasting her time on this.

 

[luwagner]

Everybody in here that thinks the police overreacted need their heads examined. You simply can NOT walk around in public like that and expect everyone to know that you like "dressing up provocatively", and not be tackled to the ground by a whole squad like you should have been on the first 15 feet out your front door.

You're going to a costume party, at least leave the helmet off on the way there and maybe put the gun in a backpack, dipshit.

 

[daffyduck]

Police receive reports of someone in military gear carrying a firearm, it's not like they'll respond with "oh he's probably dressing up as a character from a video game, we won't bother attending".

And their excuse when they use their eyeballs?

OTOH, I don't doubt they would've tackled that Cammy cosplayer, as well.

 

[Toons]

Orange tip on the gun, a bunch of grown adults could have at least used some critical thinking before.

If they didn't get a good view of that then I can understand some initial aggression but this was an easily avoidable situation if cooler heads had been running the show

 

[calico]

Why would they avoid the situation? He's in the process of committing a crime with a one year prison sentence so he's getting arrested either way. The downside of them acting as though it's an imitation firearm and then turning out to be wrong is immeasurably higher than subduing him ASAP and figuring it out after.

The good news for him is he is 16 and not white, so they will probably go easy on him.

 

[Tams]

It's one thing to wear that whilst travelling, but it's a completely different thing to wear that, travel to comic-con at the same time a football match was finished and people were leaving to go home at the same station...

You could definitely see why someone would think the worst. Lol

Why would they avoid the situation? He's in the process of committing a crime with a one year prison sentence so he's getting arrested either way. The downside of them acting as though it's an imitation firearm and then turning out to be wrong is immeasurably higher than subduing him ASAP and figuring it out after.

The good news for him is he is 16 and not white, so they will probably go easy on him.

Just to be clear, overall it's hilarious.

My issue with the police action is that they continued to restrain him rather violently after it surely must have been clear he was no threat.

They will go easy on him because he's 16 and not white, but also because they know they were excessive with their force.

 

[YCoCg]

Orange tip on the gun, a bunch of grown adults could have at least used some critical thinking before.

To be fair I asked a few people I work with and they didn't know about the orange tip thing, so it's probably safe to assume your average Joe in the UK doesn't, so it's good that the costume is that kick ass and detailed BUT most people are seeing some kind of squad guy carrying a gun.

 

[Neff]

Considering you can get sent to jail for a keyring this guy's pretty stupid to be walking around in full HUNK attire

 

[Tams]

Considering you can get sent to jail for a keyring this guy's pretty stupid to be walking around in full HUNK attire

Using a school ruler to measure it with just makes that.

Warwickshire police should be ashamed of themselves.

The police are ultimately there to protect the public, and it's counterproductive to not use discretion. Just because someone has broken a law, does not mean you have to check the entire book at them.

There are a few good coppers out there. I went through a red at some temporary traffic lights that weren't changing and he just gave me a verbal warning. Lesson learned and I came away with increased respect for the police.

 

[TDiddyLive]

Orange tip on the gun, a bunch of grown adults could have at least used some critical thinking before.

If they didn't get a good view of that then I can understand some initial aggression but this was an easily avoidable situation if cooler heads had been running the show

The one things cops worldwide don't do is take chances with guns.

Every single one these is a real gun. Immediately thinking an orange tip means it's fake is pretty fucking stupid. The cops did the right thing, the people who called did the right thing.

 

[Tams]

The one things cops worldwide don't do is take chances with guns.

Every single one these is a real gun. Immediately thinking an orange tip means it's fake is pretty fucking stupid. The cops did the right thing, the people who called did the right thing.

I don't think anyone here is saying they shouldn't have stopped him, or that he wasn't an idiot.

But when they'd already apprehended him, then they did have the luxury of time to look at the imitation firearm. Only an utter idiot wouldn't immediately recognise it was an imitation.

Yet they continued to crush him into the ground. It was excessive use of force.

Unfortunately, many of our police are utterly clueless.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Every single one these is a real gun. Immediately thinking an orange tip means it's fake is pretty fucking stupid. The cops did the right thing, the people who called did the right thing.

You mean Brits actually called the cops on this guy? That makes the whole thing even stupider. What idiot thinks someone is carrying a rifle through London?

 

[TDiddyLive]

How many guns do you know of that have an orange tip on them?

Absolutely all of them with a little paint.

 

[calico]

Most members of the public would not consider this to be excessive force in the circumstances. The police and state definitely won't. They don't play since all the Islamic terrorist attacks in London. It wouldn't have taken much to play out differently here for this kid to end up getting himself shot.

The public will -rightly imo- see what happened here as a kid getting dealt with robustly in a situation which is entirely a result of his own stupidity. That said, I don't think there will be any real demand for punishment, given it seems to be a case of youthful retardation rather than malice. Ofc, if they find some indication that he knew it would freak people out and he did it anyway, that might change.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

to casually walk around London dressed up like Hunk in full battle gear.

With the Lurkers around?

You'd be stupid not too

 

[Toons]

The one things cops worldwide don't do is take chances with guns.

Every single one these is a real gun. Immediately thinking an orange tip means it's fake is pretty fucking stupid. The cops did the right thing, the people who called did the right thing.

Maybe its jsut me speaking from an American perspective where open carry like this is usually perfectly legal and normalized

 

[GymWolf]

With the Lurkers around?

You'd be stupid not too

I bet that shit is ok somehow...

 

[Sub_Level]

Its Hunk, he'll be fine. Probably already escaped custody by now.

 

[archangelmorph]

It's terrifying to think that somewhere nearby a man may have been glancing at a woman without her permission and that just went unnoticed because of this.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I was expecting the cosplayer to be like

arrest her for wearing the cammy leotard and not turning around even once

 

[Trilobit]

Now they're arresting comedy writers too.

 

[jason10mm]

I can see the police checking this guy out, but once they determine its a fake gun, just send the bloke home, why arrest him?

I go to cons where there used to be LEGIONS of these Swat-like Umbrella corp guys, all with full battle rattle and indistinguishable from actual cops minus the orange tips on (some of) their guns. It's died out a lot, whether due to pressure or just cultural interest drift (or that its brutally hot to wear in the South over summer).

But just got back from Dragoncon and the number of pretty cute police, security, and even FBI chicks working the gig in their gear had me thinking "hey babe, you for real or just cosplaying?" as an opening line might have actually worked

The FBI especially, damn they were ALL fit, no chubbies on that team.

 

[GymWolf]

Now they're arresting comedy writers too.

Why is this surprising when people get arrested for mildly aggressive post on facebook already?

Am i missing something?

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Now they're arresting comedy writers too.

he's the creator, writer, and director of every episode of the classic The IT Crowd, for those who don't know





He has been mocking this kind of nonsense for decades in humor... and they hate him for it. Arresting him over tweets on the subject is politically motivated insanity.

 

[Bojji]

he's the creator, writer, and director of every episode of the classic The IT Crowd, for those who don't know





He has been mocking this kind of nonsense for decades in humor... and they hate him for it. Arresting him over tweets on the subject is politically motivated insanity.

IT crowd is easily in top 5 best comedy shows (if not in top 3).

Motherfuckers.

 

[GymWolf]

he's the creator, writer, and director of every episode of the classic The IT Crowd, for those who don't know





He has been mocking this kind of nonsense for decades in humor... and they hate him for it. Arresting him over tweets on the subject is politically motivated insanity.

Matt berry is such a comedic genius, i hate to quote yt commenta but very few actors can make this scene hilarious without being cringe.
(And she is fucking great aswell)



And yeah the director is also a genius, i was wheezing during this scene

 

[calico]

I can see the police checking this guy out, but once they determine its a fake gun, just send the bloke home, why arrest him?

Because he was almost certainly breaking the law, even with it being fake.

 

[jason10mm]

Because he was almost certainly breaking the law, even with it being fake.

Come no, it's one thing to use a replica/airsoft for THIS (warning language)



but to just be playing and walking with it, arrest really necessary?

 

[Tams]

Because he was almost certainly breaking the law, even with it being fake.

Which doesn't require four officers restraining him and pushing his face into the ground.

It's excessive use of force and I hope he sues.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Matt berry is such a comedic genius, i hate to quote yt commenta but very few actors can make this scene hilarious without being cringe.
(And she is fucking great aswell)



And yeah the director is also a genius, i was wheezing during this scene

someone make a Matt Berry thread, I'm too lazy and the world needs it



October is soon, so anyone hasn't watched Garth Marenghi's Darkplace, your assignment is clear. Graham Linehan himself makes a small appearance in person in an episode.

 

[kevboard]

someone make a Matt Berry thread, I'm too lazy and the world needs it



October is soon, so anyone hasn't watched Garth Marenghi's Darkplace, your assignment is clear. Graham Linehan himself makes a small appearance in person in an episode.

 

[TDiddyLive]

Which doesn't require four officers restraining him and pushing his face into the ground.

It's excessive use of force and I hope he sues.

It's not even remotely excessive by any stretch of the imagination. I'm so sick of everyone throwing out that term when police use force to affect an arrest. It's allowed absolutely everywhere in the world when the crime investigated is major/dangerous or the suspect is not compliant. In this case they were investigating a man with a gun. Completely reasonable to use force to make sure he is unable to arm himself with any other possible weapons. Excessive force is if they did this to a compliant jaywalker.

 

[calico]

but to just be playing and walking with it, arrest really necessary?

They specifically made a law against carrying an imitation firearm in public, with up to a one year prison sentence for breaking it, so I guess they intended for the police to enforce it yeah.

Directly threatening someone with it would be far more serious ofc.

 

[jason10mm]

They specifically made a law against carrying an imitation firearm in public, with up to a one year prison sentence for breaking it, so I guess they intended for the police to enforce it yeah.

Directly threatening someone with it would be far more serious ofc.

Well, they could just confiscate the replica, issue the guy a ticket, and send him home, no? Was he threatening folks with it or refusing to comply with commands? AFAICT he wasn't trying to rob a jewelry store with a fake gun, just walk the street.

 

[calico]

Well, they could just confiscate the replica, issue the guy a ticket, and send him home, no?

No I don't think so.

just walk the street

This part is illegal by itself. Deliberately threatening people with it would be 10x worse, which is reflected in the maximum punishment.