Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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Krejlooc

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I wish the Dallas PD killed him rather then him shooting himself. I definitely didn't want him alive, I don't want him sprouting his hate anymore to people that would listen.

Dpd shooting him would have absolutely been the wrong response. Dpd did great trying to bring him in without harm.
 

J-Rzez

Member
RIP those who met end of watch. Hope the others pull through and have a full recovery. It's times like these that perhaps it's a blessing that medical conditions cut my career short.

This is not the way to handle things, things are going to get worse. Police are going to be on even higher alert now, possibly stemming more situations. Man.
 
This interview is just chilling. There was a reason mods were threatening bans earlier in this thread. These guys should seriously considering demanding some sort of protection.
 

pigeon

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I don't think people are celebrating, but this shouldn't come as a huge shock after the police in this country have been straight up murdering black people for years now. The powder keg was bound to go off eventually, it's just tragic that it happened to these cops who were actually doing the right thing and helping the protesters.

Until we know more I think this is a very problematic framing.

If you wanted to strike back at the police, why would you choose a police department that's literally famous for cutting down on excessive violence and replacing it with community policing, and shoot at them while they're visibly supporting a protest AGAINST POLICE VIOLENCE?

At this time I think the reason is probably entirely different. These guys are on the same side as BLM.
 

SURGEdude

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Probably, but people shouldn't feel the urge to just start affirming it strongly until we know, right? I don't see the rush.


Sure, could be the Amish too. Let's deal in reality. If somebody suggests this likely ISIS they are as likely to be right as suggesting Lee Harvey Oswald reanimated and did the deed.
 

ChawlieTheFair

pip pip cheerio you slags!
I find the reaction of the customers alarming to say the least. They wouldn't be complaining if a gunman chose that moment and that supermarket for their terrorist attack. They'd be glad of a couple of coppers with guns.

It's illogical and mildy insane to live in a state of fear where you believe your local English supermarket could be the victim of a terrorist attack. I'm glad people were outraged over that.
 
Welcome to my World (In Turkey cops regularly get ambushed by PKK militants and pro-PKK Kurds celebrate on Twitter).

It's very weird to see another country, America no less, feel the pain that my country has unfortunately become used to. In your case there is no militant group so I'm sure it's an isolated incident and will not become a pattern.

Just as my heart is broken for all the families affected by this incident, my heart goes out to you and your country. I'm truly sorry.
 

Staccat0

Fail out bailed
There should always be a rush to use common sense.
That isn't really common sense means but you can do what you want. The San Bernadino stuff got so fucked up from people thinking they were clever. I don't see the benefit, of saying "it's definitely this" but if you wnd up saving a life or something with the early expert analysis I'll send you Dallas coffee mug. ;)
 
He should be. The media and the police department fucked up majorly.

Honestly I feel like the real fault lies with the people who reported him for seemingly no reason IMO.

After watching the interview, I feel for the dude. =\
I don't really think the cops were trying to force a false confession out of him though.

Maybe I am just naive and want to hold onto some semblance of positivity here though. =/
 

BokehKing

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Dpd shooting him would have absolutely been the wrong response. Dpd did great trying to bring him in without harm.
I'm more concerned with him living, going to trial, media over glorifying this guy's motives and life more so than they will already start doing tomorrow and making this guy a hero to some nut job at home that was proud of what happened this night.
 

Faith

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I'm not supporting these things at all. All humans are precious.

I'm just not surprised that such things happen after all these killings of black people.
 
Karma is a bitch I guess.

I'm not surprised at all.

Fuck off.

These police officers were actively participating and ensuring the protestors right to protest. They did not deserve this. Go to the Dallas PD Twitter. They were live twitting the protest before this shit happened.
 
All my friends who were there are now physically safe but it must of have been a beyond horrid night for them. I can't really articulate what I'm feeling right now.
 
Karma is a bitch I guess.

I'm not surprised at all.

Faith. no. These cops had no "karma" coming to them. They were doing their jobs. Having a blue uniform should not and does not mean they have it coming.

edit: yeah there's the ban.

I'm not surprised at all. karma and all that.
 
This is hardly an overreaction and every single person I've talked to (who is black) agrees that you are best at home right now and that you do not want to confront the police for any reason at all.

I mean don't give a reason for them to do anything out of fear or reactionary feelings. Go about you're business. You project too much it becomes a spiral.


Stay safe and watch out for other folks other then cops.
 
I'm not supporting these things at all. All humans are precious.

I'm just not surprised that such things happen after all these killings of black people.

You make a comment about Karma, as if these officers who were protecting protesters had it coming.

You have no idea if this has anything to do with killing of black people.

Exceptionally callous.
 

Plywood

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I wish the Dallas PD killed him rather then him shooting himself. I definitely didn't want him alive, I don't want him sprouting his hate anymore to people that would listen.
What good does killing him do? Does it bring back those he killed? Does it provide us with answers as to why or what? Does he get to understand and face the consequences of his actions? Killers don't deserve to get away with it and that's what killing them would do.
 

Kin5290

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It's illogical and mildy insane to live in a state of fear where you believe your local English supermarket could be the victim of a terrorist attack. I'm glad people were outraged over that.
They looked like they were taking personal time to pick up some dinner. What's so outrageous about that?
 

DrSlek

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I find the reaction of the customers alarming to say the least. They wouldn't be complaining if a gunman chose that moment and that supermarket for their terrorist attack. They'd be glad of a couple of coppers with guns.

Police being unarmed in the UK has been the way they've worked for well over a century. It's a point of pride for them that they're able to effectively do their jobs without the aid of lethal weaponry. The public are used to it being that way and it's also a point of pride for them.

So no, the customers reactions are completely understandable within the context of the UK and the minuscule chance of a terrorist attack, or shark attack or some other equally unlikely event doesn't make them wrong to react that way.
 

Krejlooc

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I'm more concerned with him living, going to trial, media over glorifying this guy's motives and life more so than they will already start doing tomorrow and making this guy a hero to some nut job at home that was proud of what happened this night.

So then why do you wish dpd had killed him?
 

Cromwell

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We dont know that the police were shot because of retaliation for murderous cops though. We dont know anything.

A day after Sterling and Castille? I guess we don't know for certain but I highly doubt this was just a coincidence.

Until we know more I think this is a very problematic framing.

If you wanted to strike back at the police, why would you choose a police department that's literally famous for cutting down on excessive violence and replacing it with community policing, and shoot at them while they're visibly supporting a protest AGAINST POLICE VIOLENCE?

At this time I think the reason is probably entirely different. These guys are on the same side as BLM.

I agree, but this is a climate where some people see literally every single police officer as the enemy.
 

C4Lukins

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I'm not supporting these things at all. All humans are precious.

I'm just not surprised that such things happen after all these killings of black people.

Yeah post as many idiotic comments while you still can. Say what you mean, because these are last minutes you will have a voice on this forum.
 

Yamauchi

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Welcome to my World (In Turkey cops regularly get ambushed by PKK militants and pro-PKK Kurds celebrate on Twitter).

It's very weird to see another country, America no less, feel the pain that my country has unfortunately become used to. In your case there is no militant group so I'm sure it's an isolated incident and will not become a pattern.
Odd things happen when you outlaw an entire ethnicity's native language for 80 years, insist that they don't exist and that they are mountain Turks, outlaw their cultural celebrations, forcibly displace 500,000 of them, destroy thousands of villages, kill thousands of civilians, disallow their ethnic representation and insist any organized Kurdish group is sympathetic to the PKK, etc.
 
I mean don't give a reason for them to do anything out of fear or reactionary feelings. Go about you're business. You project too much it becomes a spiral.


Stay safe and watch out for other folks other then cops.

Cops killed a man for pulling out his ID in front of his girlfriend and a four year old. Cops will kill you because you have a toy sword. Cops will kill you if you are 12 years old and have a toy gun.

Project too much? What the fuck are you talking about? You don't know shit.
 
Karma is a bitch I guess.

I'm not surprised at all.

What in the actual fuck. Karma? KARMA? As if THESE are the cops that killed people unjustly? Even if they were (which they arent), this post is just awful. You want to go to their funerals and tell their spouses and children karma is a bitch? SMFH so sad.
 

Juicy Bob

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I can't help but feel that any chance the US has of having meaningful progress made in the areas of racial equality and gun control has lessened in the last week.

It's like society over there has finally begun to talk about these two issues a lot more after so long and yet all these appalling events will likely just make people on all sides of the debate will just double down on their positions and I honestly fear about what that means for progress.
 
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