Damerman
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You are annoying af.
Kim Kardashian releases video of Kanye/Taylor Swift conversation about "Famous" lyric
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You're seriously going down that road again huh? Prestigious Nickelodeon Teen Choice Awards and non-descript Country music awards? I'm not even invested in either artist but I do find all this posturing laughable
Subpar Spatula
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"It's only a game." - Losing badly at Street Fighter
Haha. don't stop believing
RespectThySole
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Dead at parseltongue
Subpar Spatula
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It's funny because Taylor has a talent and they don't.
Some other empty brought up Grammy's first. Then we responded with figures of her own and they were so fucking brutal that I almost didn't post them in the spirit of fairness. But then I thought, what would Kanye do? He would post them. Without a hint of moral or ethical sensitivity. What's good for the goose...
Good lord, stop! He's already dead. His ramshackle army have abandoned ship anyway. 😅
Yeezus H. Christ
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Kanye's debut: 2004
Taylor's debut: 2006
Here I'll help you out buddy, that's a difference of two years. Not very big, right? Two is just one more than one!
Good, that wasn't so hard was it?
What figures? Sales figures? You think sales defines the quality of an artist? LMAO
Bro, just take an L on this one. You've been the laughingstock of this thread for good reason.
You are quite a personality, what on earth is an "empty"? Why the need for a narrative of some sort of battle? I find this all entertaining and I hope you are too as I'm not sure why else you'd feel the need.
neverknowsbest
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Fucking Taylor Swift fanboys defending her TO THE DEATH in this thread like the hottest girl in school smiled at them once and they dream of repaying her by saving her from the mob. Keep the dream alive.
Snek stans can't take the L
Sorry, Kanye has been producing music at a professional level for over 20 years. Sadly, perhaps not surprisingly, it took him 9 years to make it big. That's on him.
Taylor signed her first contract at 16, ten years ago. Yeah.
Should I post details of the last tour? When Kanye banked 34m and Tay banked slightly more at 250m? Here you go:
BunnyBear said:They both did seven shows in Australia. The final is the tour total.
Kanye:
Taylor:
Fucking brutal.
I get it. If I named my GAF account after one of the industry's biggest losers I'd be justifying it too.
Mr Waluigi
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BunnyBear is the protagonist of this thread
Fighting against all odds no matter what
Fighting against all odds no matter what
UltimaPooh
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Tay was a one percenter... Pretty easy for her to make it into the big time.
RespectThySole
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Kanye is way more respected in music than Taylor lol
Rolling Stone top 500 albums of all time:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531
Kanye: 3
Taylor: 0
Grammys:
Kanye: 21
Taylor: 10
Metacritic:
Kanye: 80
Taylor: 75
And Taylor has been consistently mediocre with not a single album rated above 77 while Kanye has 4 albums rated above that and one of the ones that isn't is recognized as being highly influential despite having initially mixed reviews.
http://www.rollingstone.com/most-groundbreaking-albums-of-all-time
He's recognized as one of if not, the greatest artist of his generation.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/02/09/kanye-west-new-album/79814890/
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrho...our-generation?utm_term=.veAOOlVX6#.faOooOEXn
He's one of the best hip hop producers of all time as well, but sure he doesn't have talent.
Lou Reed (Velvet Underground) talking about his Yeezus album:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lou-reed-reviews-kanye-wests-yeezus-20130702
"It's majestic and inspiring. The guy is really, really talented. He's really trying to raise the bar. No one's near what he's doing right now. It's not even on the same planet."
Keep spamming your kids choice/country music awards though.
From what I can gather she had it easier, but he was hardly rags to riches either.
Peter Ian Staker
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This is like watching european sports fans compare how many championships their favorite team has on every sport imaginable, from football and basketball to fucking table tennis
Def Leppard Hysteria is an incredible album. 12 million copies sold!
Yes, I really do like it 
Mate, you're making good points but it seems Subpar and Bunny only care about money and social media
Lou Reed. Of Lulu fame? Who somehow made Metallica sound terrible? Yeah, I'm gonna let that one through to the keeper, thanks.
Look at that. All those accolades for Kanye. And yet he garners such little respect. If Tay keeps on her path, she'll be one of those billionaires he begs for money.
Based on how they asses talent I dont think Taylor stans would rate Lou Reed/Velvet Underground much. To them he/they werent influential.
Just like I said
The Cool One
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This is by far the best OT thread this year
Because they are themselves entertaining us
UltimaPooh
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Huge difference in being in the one percent and being in the middle class. Sure life wasn't so tough for Kanye when it came to money but it wasn't any where near on the level Taylor had.
And you know this how? What makes you believe the Swift family was in the 1 per cent? The father's job? Genuine question.
Go read the iPad thread.
Man, I've been just lurking this thread an enjoying the drama, but if you actually think that Lou Reed's most notable work is fucking Lulu, you're either trolling or hilariously ignorant about the history of rock music, straight up.
Tbf the thread would've died 10 pages ago without them lol, as deluded as they seem.
Raitosaito
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That edit!
Of course because of her dad's job.
I actually don't dislike Taylor or her music, but after this thread, I at least don't understand her fans. It would take Taylor coming out confessing and saying directly to a 360 camera to show no outside influence for her fans to believe she did something wrong.
And Style was a terrible song.
UltimaPooh
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Father's job and connections. Duh.
I would say her success is very suspect of her own doing.
I mean everyone's success depends on a multitude of people outside of themselves but see certainly had a huge leg up versus others.
I'm not saying her music sucks or anything, in fact I like it.... Just that breaking big before she graduated was probably just as easy as saying "Dad I want to be a pop star"
He only rates artists by popularity and not critical acclaim. It makes complete sense why he would think Lou Reed and by extension Velvet Underground sucks. Subpar is probably the same.
Subpar Spatula
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If Kanye is so great and influential how come that doesn't help him secure loans from more successful people?
Rollingstones, didn't they say Eminem was top 3 greatest rappers of all time or something and every one flipped their shit?
EightBitNate
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Are you placing Taylor Swift over Lou fucking Reed? That's it; you're officially below Subpar Spatula.
Sunset Samurai
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They just won't let up. That's what you call a super fan. Probably has on a custom made Tswift shirt while typing in this thread. She still got exposed either way
Raitosaito
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If this is insanity I don't know what is. Businesses aren't just going to give money away on various non music ventures base on an artist ability to make music. That just doesn't make sense for any VC. He wants seed money, but Kanye is unfocused in other sectors and need a guiding hand almost constantly.
The kind of money Kanye is asking for can't really be given by an individual for business ventures, but need to be a business investment with a carefully strategize plan with safeguards. And you know what, a company did take a chance anyways which was Adidas.
No one is saying Kanye is a saint, we just aren't discrediting that he has major influence in hip-hop, pop-art, and a multitude of other industries. And yes, he's crazy too sometimes.
There hasn't been a valid argument in this thread from your side. You just keep moving the goal post to something else that fits the "Taylor is the best" narrative.
sub-subpar if you will...i'll get my coat
RespectThySole
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I mean if that isn't enough. He has 2 songs with Paul McCartney and a song with Elton John. Hell, even Prince liked him and we all know he can be brutal. (RIP) All the greats respect Kanye. The Taylor stans in here are only deluding themselves.
Prince brings out Kanye in Sweden:
http://www.vibe.com/2011/08/kanye-west-joins-prince-stage-sweden-video/
http://www.nme.com/news/prince/88072
Prince brings out Kanye in Sweden:
http://www.vibe.com/2011/08/kanye-west-joins-prince-stage-sweden-video/
http://www.nme.com/news/prince/88072
There is so much wrong with this I can't even tackle it. I'm thoroughly stumped. Well done, BunnyBear. Well done.
NHarmonic.
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I love how this devolves in useless comparisons between 2 artists that work on different genres and have different impacts based on that.
For example, If Kanye was as famous as T.Swift is, his stupid as fuck twitter meltdowns and other interviews/acts would have destroyed him a lot of time ago. So, to get the attention he needs he clinges into T.Swift, and has done it since the infamous mic stealing moment. He's a smart man, and she's a smart woman too, but the difference is she walks on thin ice being a "pop-star", and Kanye uses that to his advantage.
Still, both are extremely fake acts, they just sell their character, like every other popular music artist does, and that's not arguable. If you're looking for sincerity and true life experiences, most of the music scene is not the place to search for. We should just consume/enjoy their show or art product, not look for life lessons on how to behave or be.
For example, If Kanye was as famous as T.Swift is, his stupid as fuck twitter meltdowns and other interviews/acts would have destroyed him a lot of time ago. So, to get the attention he needs he clinges into T.Swift, and has done it since the infamous mic stealing moment. He's a smart man, and she's a smart woman too, but the difference is she walks on thin ice being a "pop-star", and Kanye uses that to his advantage.
Still, both are extremely fake acts, they just sell their character, like every other popular music artist does, and that's not arguable. If you're looking for sincerity and true life experiences, most of the music scene is not the place to search for. We should just consume/enjoy their show or art product, not look for life lessons on how to behave or be.
At this point? Hahahaha.
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