His recent NATO comments sort of tied everything together.
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Trump's ties to Putin and other Russian Oligarchs
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the_batman
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right, makes sense.
excuse me for generalizing, but are the boomers a terrible generation or what
Trump's true supporters are uninformed, poorly educated people who feel good when they hear about how they, aka rich white people, are going to take America back.
Dubbedinenglish
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And the only change to the RNC platform from him was removing the provision for lethal aid to Ukraine.
All of the stuff has enough of a pattern to raise red flags.
Racism sells. It's the same reason Putin and friends love to fund the far-right in Europe too.
They are beyond ignorant to reality at the very least.
the_batman
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so Trump would pass the secrets over to Russia? Treason of the highest order, he'd be executed, right?
BigJonsson
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Who says law enforcement and intelligence isn't investigating these ties? Investigations take time
WhiteRabbitEXE
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People have become so obsessed with partisan politics, so invested in the idea that their side is the right side, that they can't let themselves think about anything that's not right with their side because it will challenge their entire "red vs blue" world view. It's easier to go "la la la can't hear you la la la libruls!" than to stop and think for once.
That, and racism and general bigotry is a distressingly powerful motivator.
rokkerkory
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Come on america dont let me down
ErnieMcCracken
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Conservatives are great at getting their supporters to vote against their own self-interests.
It's not in the media spotlight. Could always try tweeting at him about it till he responds. Or start a hashtag.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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They've become so invested in his demagoguery that they don't care about anything he does. Trump has done so many things that would've fucking sunk literally any other candidate in the last decade immediately but he keeps getting a pass because of how well he exploited the tea partier mindset.
excelsiorlef
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Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Probable, but they will need more than circumstantial evidence to press charges, especially against a GOP Nominee.
Of course, existing Republican leaders could put an end to his chances by a united front against him. No hard evidence required, they can just bring up the accusation and be done with it.
ErnieMcCracken
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He'd just move to Russia and buy the hotel Snowden is chilling in.
jack_package_200
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BigJonsson
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It's not like they are going to make it public either way (if there is or isn't an investigation)
PantherLotus
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Yes, the NATO comments in the NYT were alarming, but the red flag that got everyone talking was how an otherwise ambivalent / careless approach to the RNC / GOP platform involved Trump (his team) taking out unanimous language about how the US should approach Ukraine as it relates to Russia.
This is a big, big fucking deal.
This is a big, big fucking deal.
Read this the other day;
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...troying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html
A lot of the evidence is circumstantial and tangential, but nevertheless you can draw a lot of lines.
ArchedThunder
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Crooked Trump.
excelsiorlef
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Well at least he isn't doing something truly evil like setting up an e-mail server.
the_batman
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Comrade Trump.
StopMakingSense
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You have to imagine every news organization is doing to dig DEEP on this.
ArchedThunder
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Okay, that's way better.
balladofwindfishes
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I think it'll take a bit before the major networks report on it. This is a huge accusation, and they'll want to make sure it's concrete.
On a normal year, this would be campaign ending, but I just don't know anymore.
Well...all but one
This is very concerning coming out of the RNC. If it comes out that the guy "real America" is championing as the next President is a bought Manchurian candidate all hell is going to break loose. It honestly makes perfect sense given Laura Ingraham's salute at the RNC. Trump is a plant designed to bring America back to the old times but this time under the stewardship of Putin via Trump IF these accusations are true.
The Game Change section on this article is going to be legendary. This could go down as arguably the best chapter in literature history. There's a section in Game Change where Republican officials all of a sudden start fearing what would happen if Sarah Palin became Vice President. Imagine that happening now instead of at that same point and everyone losing their shit after realizing they've been played.
If conservatives wind up pushing Trump into office and this turns out to be true that movement is set back by a generation. All that "make America great" shit led us into a trap. For the sake of everything Trump cannot be elected President. For the record I am saying people need to go out and vote their conscience by selecting another candidate.
SMH at Ted "Calgary" Cruz being right about Trump. The Trump campaign needs to get in front of this before Sunday ends.
The Game Change section on this article is going to be legendary. This could go down as arguably the best chapter in literature history. There's a section in Game Change where Republican officials all of a sudden start fearing what would happen if Sarah Palin became Vice President. Imagine that happening now instead of at that same point and everyone losing their shit after realizing they've been played.
If conservatives wind up pushing Trump into office and this turns out to be true that movement is set back by a generation. All that "make America great" shit led us into a trap. For the sake of everything Trump cannot be elected President. For the record I am saying people need to go out and vote their conscience by selecting another candidate.
SMH at Ted "Calgary" Cruz being right about Trump. The Trump campaign needs to get in front of this before Sunday ends.
Already Torn
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Even if he did, I think we can agree that everyone mentioned in this thread would make a better President than Hillary Clinton!
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Not every organization, Faux has a much bigger story to follow.
Apparently Hilary woke up this morning, they need to figure out why and we'll need 13 1/2 Congressional Investigations to get to the bottom of it.
They have no conscience. Easy.
Given that a Presidential candidate being provably in the pocket of a corporation is, I believe, a criminal offense, I am under the impression that being backed by a foreign power is a few magnitudes worse. "Thanks for spotting me the campaign team and the money" would be enough to get you jailed if it can be proven.
But I could be wrong.
Should it turn out to be the case that the Trump campaign actually has ties to Putin, would that make it so that the government could refuse to give him intelligence briefings?
I mean the article itself points out that none of this means that Trump is actually literally a Manchurian candidate and not just somebody with a lot of reasons to suck up to Putin. But in case it was deeper than that...
I mean the article itself points out that none of this means that Trump is actually literally a Manchurian candidate and not just somebody with a lot of reasons to suck up to Putin. But in case it was deeper than that...
Resident_UA
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I already accepted the fact that if Trump wins Ukraine is fucked... 
What's even more insane is that there are American Ukrainians who are voting for Trump because fear and racism always take over rationality and facts...
What's even more insane is that there are American Ukrainians who are voting for Trump because fear and racism always take over rationality and facts...LUFTRAUSER
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There's something going on!
EatinOlives
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Irony of the highest order that the GOP has spent millions on investigating Clinton over a few emails and then proceeds to nominate and willingly back a candidate that is deep in the pockets of the Putin administration.
Jesus Christ you just cant make this shit up.
Jesus Christ you just cant make this shit up.
But is that hate bigger then how much they hate Hilary?
It's what happens when you give idiots to much power.
I honestly wouldn't be shocked if a significant proportion of the republicans were bought out by the Russians. It would explain why they have the bizarre respect for Putin, how quickly they turn to obstructionism, and Russia has a long, long history of bribing politicians in other countries.
I was actually thinking making a thread about how Liberum Veto contributed to the downfall of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth because nobles would be bribed by the Russians (and other countries) to paralyze their legislature, which was utterly disastrous for the Polish in the long run, and probably greatly contributed to them temporarily getting partitioned out of existence even though they instituted reforms in an attempt to address the problem. And how Republican obstructionism is a serious problem and should not be treated lightly.
I was actually thinking making a thread about how Liberum Veto contributed to the downfall of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth because nobles would be bribed by the Russians (and other countries) to paralyze their legislature, which was utterly disastrous for the Polish in the long run, and probably greatly contributed to them temporarily getting partitioned out of existence even though they instituted reforms in an attempt to address the problem. And how Republican obstructionism is a serious problem and should not be treated lightly.
If Trump has foreigners donating money to him that's absolutely a crime.
He's still better.
Hillary is untrustworthy. She's obviously a criminal. Nevermind that we've spent millions upon millions of dollars sending committee after committee to go after her for a quarter-century while not getting any sort of paydirt on her. She's just sketchy, alright?
And have you heard that shrill voice of hers? My feeble mind can't handle it. I'd rather sell-out Europe - and let's be honest here - the world's stability and get Trump to whip this place into shape. She's too damn cozy with Wall Street for reasons I can't fully explain, on policies I can't explain. Establishment sell-out.
And in closing, have a dank meme!
Hillary is untrustworthy. She's obviously a criminal. Nevermind that we've spent millions upon millions of dollars sending committee after committee to go after her for a quarter-century while not getting any sort of paydirt on her. She's just sketchy, alright?
And have you heard that shrill voice of hers? My feeble mind can't handle it. I'd rather sell-out Europe - and let's be honest here - the world's stability and get Trump to whip this place into shape. She's too damn cozy with Wall Street for reasons I can't fully explain, on policies I can't explain. Establishment sell-out.
And in closing, have a dank meme!
Probably not, I don't think there's much of anything that could turn a Trump supporter against him. But being in Putin's pocket? That really might do it, at least for some.
Perfect.
I doubt there is anything in this article that those responsible for intelligence here don't already know. There is very little chance they would give Trump anything to feed to Putin except perhaps misinformation to test whether or not it was happening. I would say there is 0% chance that Trump will be privy to any important intelligence unless he is elected.
Additionally, this fucking huckster needs to be put on trial for trying to destroy the United States. This article connects some horrifying dots.
dynamitejim
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There's actually a conspiracy theory on the Right that some Russian company donated $150 million to the Clinton Foundation after Hillary (when she was SoS) approved them buying a US company that produces Uranium in a kind of pay for play deal. Of course it's bunch of garbage. But it makes sense in that Republicans are the masters of projection.
I don't think even he's dumb enough to have foreign money donating directly, but we've already seen him fudge the rules with his own money when it came to campaign finance.
This right here is the truth. Its what the slate article said as well. Putin is definitely behind a lot of the hard swin right. Dude knows a divided west only benefits him and his regime.
killertofu
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That's good. That's damn good
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