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[ShockingAlberto]

I feel like the biggest question mark is what version of multiplatform games the NX will be getting. Is Sonic 2017 on NX going to be a portable version (i.e. Dimps-made) of the game on XB1 and PS4? Is DQXI a port of the 3DS game or the PS4 one?

I feel like a lot of questions will be answered when we find that stuff out.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Not that happy if this is true. I like the idea of having all of Nintendo developing for one platform but I don't really play portable games. As someone that strictly plays consoles this is a little upsetting to me.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

That is true. However, perhaps the entire story hasn't been told. The Supplemental Computing Device is a patent with great potential. Nintendo was quick to get that patent approved after part of it was rejected. Seems to me they might not have bothered if they didn't have plans for it to become a product. I doubt Eurogamer knows everything. We'll see.

Hmmm...they did indeed patent that, that wasn't a rumour or anything. That would make things more positive, certainly.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

NX struggling to sustain SS

Neo SS2

Scorpio SS3

PC SSB ( God )

That gif isn't SS2, bruh.

 

[Kaako]

My hype went from 15% to 1% now. I give no fucks about a handheld hybrid.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Ok. Either Nintendo is laughing at us for being so far off or they are thinking "We almost made it to the end without leaks"

Huh? The most common prediction was a hybrid like this.

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

I remember that this was the exact pre-release sentiment when Vita was announced. Turns out, handhelds are a rather poor platform for huge AAA blockbusters that are traditionally on consoles.
And the Vita had a high-res OLED display and proper control inputs.

If anything, i'd be worried that this console would slowly divert all of Nintendo's development towards making handheld-style games that play to the device's portable strengths. They'll be good games none the less, but it's going to sting if you're more interested in the huge epic games traditionally seen on Nintendo home consoles.

The more I think about it, the more I think Nintendo is just transitioning out of the home console business entirely. It's too competitive a market. The NX having a TV-out and docking system is just a strategy to ease into the handheld-only strategy without pissing off their loyal console fanbase.

Thank you very good point.

 

[Durante]

^ We have an endless supply of those, don't we?

I'm not really sure who to blame for how much people overestimate the impact of the ISA on a modern (non-system) software development project.

 

[ghst]

The sales data also currently indicates that the West is currently being very well served between MS, Sony and PC. How exactly do you propose Nintendo brute force their way into that race? With Animal Crossing and Mario Party?

pokemon go seems to be doing alright.

 

[phanphare]

It'll have Zelda: BotW. And that is anything but a 'short bursts of gameplay' game. I'd say there's nothing to worry about there.

There are plenty of RPGs etc on 3DS that play no differently than they would on a console and are suited for 1-2 hour play sessions.

the great thing about BotW is that it can be both

 

[galvatron]

I was pretty down on this thing with no base for extra processing announced. Still, if it is the ideal place to play pokemon go then it could be huge (there was the rumore it is android compatible).

I'm in, it's just a matter of if I'd wait for a sale or get it at launch.

 

[tiebreaker]

That make lesser sense actually. You just need to buy 1 physical copy of the game and you can play it on your TV or outdoor in this case.

You can't put your Vita card into your PS4, or your PS4 disc into your Vita.

I was talking about Vita and PSTV.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Exciting from a powerful Game Boy point of view, it could be Nintendo's first graphically impressive portable ever.

Not so impressive as a console, if there's one clock speed for both battery and mains-powered operation, it'll be quite limited by the former.

 

[Plum]

Ok. Either Nintendo is laughing at us for being so far off or they are thinking "We almost made it to the end without leaks"

Reggie's currently browsing GAF on his Nintendo Holodeck and laughing maniacally.

 

[Tathanen]

So I feel... pretty strongly that this thing needs to have cellular internet. As a portable electronic device in 2017, if you bring it on the train and suddenly can't do anything internet, which is pretty deeply intertwined with most gaming experiences these days, it's gonna feel like a brick from 1992. I don't know how they can really pull it off logistically, but peoples' expectations of mobile gaming has changed pretty radically now that everyone's carrying a cell phone. The NX is gonna have to at the very least be able to do what your dumb ol phone can do.

 

[SomTervo]

NX will still have the best-looking Nintendo games that we've seen, and it'll likely be affordable.

Brilliant post - but I don't see how this will be true? Surely it will be weaker than the Wii U by a substantial margin, if output through a TV as a home-console analog?

Of course the 'console body's screen will probably put out some damn nice graphics, and hopefully at 'retina' resolution, but as a home console, I can't imagine it's going to be a big performer, in terms of IQ if nothing else.

 

[quest]

Very disappointed like many I have 0 interest in mobile gaming. So basically I am forced to pay for a handheld I would never use. Then the detachable controllers sound like a very bad Idea not going to get dual analogs that way. They could at least offer a version with out the hand held tax and support for the Wii pro controller. I have a vita I never use any more. I don't know why they could of not of done a PS4 level console with x86 for 3rd party support for 249.00.

 

[NateDrake]

That gif isn't SS2, bruh.

But accurate enough. Powerful but slow (PS4 CPU is pretty bad).

 

[kAmui-]

Nothing surprising there. I really like the concept. Just give me Mario Maker on this thing and I'm in!

Spoiler

And a proper online service.

 

[ElTorro]

So PSTV?

Haha, yeah.

But I reckon that a "NXTV" micro console that actually runs all the games on the platform would sell better. One main issue with PSTV was that many games just didn't run without the Vita's input methods. The PSTV also didn't have a library that appealed to people who did not already have a Vita.

 

[rayman1900]

Not that happy if this is true. I like the idea of having all of Nintendo developing for one platform but I don't really play portable games. As someone that strictly plays consoles this is a little upsetting to me.

Why? I think it's a good compromise of the two to being able to plug it to the TV, no?

 

[Oblivion]

Neo SS2

That's not SSJ2. :/

 

[jonno394]

They'll be good games none the less, but it's going to sting if you're more interested in the huge epic games traditionally seen on Nintendo home consoles.

What huge epic games are these? Zelda and Xenoblade, both which appeared on the 3ds?

 

[Z3M0G]

Wait so, the docker is the home console? Is that how it works?

The doc will just do dumb hdmi/power passthrough. At best, it may provide the wireless controller connection. I wouldn't be surprised if they include a motion bar connector for some BC.

Don't expect any CPU/GPU processing.

 

[Antagon]

I wonder, would there be any chance of Nintendo also releasing a cheaper 'console only' or 'handheld only' SKU for this? They could take the battery and the screen out of the base part and release it as a console or take the base out and integrate the controls and release it as a handheld. Might be interesting for the people that are afraid that the combined version would be too expensive.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

That gif isn't SS2, bruh.

It's basically SS2 in raw form with the muscles.

 

[clav]

And with this, the expectation of backward compatibility in a new generation of consoles is 100% dead. Sony, MS, Nintendo. Boom.

Maybe 3DS/DS digital download compatibility can still exist because of architecture involved.

Huge question mark.

 

[Josh5890]

All those VC games, stuck on Wii U.

What a damn shame.

I bought a crap load of Wii VC games back in the day. (I even bought one earlier this year), but I haven't touched the Wii-U outside of Earthbound, the 30 cents games, and a GBA game or two. If going forward Nintendo has a great model for the NX VC I will go broke.

 

[wachie]

Wow!!!

They actually did it! First Pokémon Go, now a 2 in 1 system, King Nintendo's heading back to Wii era levels of relevance, I can feel it!

Looking forward to the possibilities:
- no more disc scratches to worry about, cartridges will likely eliminate load times too
- expecting Xbox 1 level graphics or close to it so I can see slightly scaled down ports of FFVII Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3
- hoping for all currently owned VC games to be transferable to the new machine
- hopefully no more of those rancid gyro controls since this isn't BC
- ......what if the cartridge slot lets you play the 3DS library? I know there's no BC with Wii U but that would be amazing!
- imagine a $250 console and $40 games? Huge bonus vs. the Bone and PS4 with their $60 games

The Wii U is a great system but I'm happy to see Nintendo aiming for that #1 spot again. This is too much for a Tuesday. Whew!

This is either a sarcastic post or highly out of touch with reality.

 

[StoOgE]

Those controls looks NES levels of uncomfortable.

I think this is a very neat idea and something I am likely to wind up with as a function of it allowing me to take games on the road.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

This is going to fail and fail something hardcore. I have zero doubt of that.

 

[Cday]

So this can't coexist with another portable Nintendo system. I wonder what Pokemon games will look like on it.

PSP Go is my favorite handheld formfactor. As much as I love the Vita and the gorgeous screen, I wish they had gone with that design. PSP Go is super portable, slip it in your pocket and forget about it.

I like how portable it is too, but it was only good(portably) for games that only used the d pad.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And with this, the expectation of backward compatibility in a new generation of consoles is 100% dead. Sony, MS, Nintendo. Boom.

It's all about that forward compatibility now, bruh.

Moving forward, not back. Forward to the Future!

;p

In all seriousness, this was a necessary omission to adopt the PC/Android/iOS styled ecosystems.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Will buy if the graphics are better than Wii-U. I don't anticipate myself using it on the go all that much.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

pokemon go seems to be doing alright.

And you think this is because people are putting down Call of Duty and Destiny and picking up Pokemon Go?

 

[kunonabi]

It'd be great if the detachable controller parts had a similar feel to the Wiimote. That way it's curved a bit and would feel better both connected to the handheld and as a standalone controller.

This is honestly the most exciting bit of this rumor for me. The wiimote and nunchuk were so comfortable and getting a wireless version would be great. Hopefully, they retain some motion control elements even it's just gyro.

 

[Griss]

As an almost exclusively handheld gamer, this sounds like my absolute dream. All the benefits of a handheld console with the added features of couch multiplayer and optional TV display.

This is how I'm feeling. I'm so, so happy.

For once Nintendo will be producing a console that is actually near the cutting edge of its sector. Because that's what this will be for the handheld sector.

So damn cool.

 

[Mediking]

NX struggling to sustain SS

Neo SS2

Scorpio SS3

PC SSB ( God )

You just won the thread. Dear God. Put this in the OP.

 

[HotHamBoy]

All those VC games, stuck on Wii U.

What a damn shame.

What do you mean?

They're gonna resell them all on NX, drip feeding them out as always.

Maybe we'll get another upgrade program.

It sucks I have to keep my Wii U, it's my least favorite console I've owned in terms of interface and usability.

 

[PhazonBlazer]

Would be really cool if the handheld was able to use LTE or at least 4G.

 

[jmizzal]

So a hybrid as we were all predicting? Come on, Nintendo, confirm it already! If it's as powerful as an Xbox One this will be exactly what I would have wanted the NX to be.

Not sure how the two controller spaces are going to work on a handheld, though, would make it very bulky indeed.

Yup i'll take Xbox one power, i'm more then happy with my xbox one, if I needed huge power I would get a gaming PC

Also Nintendo is gonna def put its mobile games on this, Pokemon Go out the box

 

[Nirolak]

I feel like the biggest question mark is what version of multiplatform games the NX will be getting. Is Sonic 2017 on NX going to be a portable version (i.e. Dimps-made) of the game on XB1 and PS4? Is DQXI a port of the 3DS game or the PS4 one?

I feel like a lot of questions will be answered when we find that stuff out.

Sega ported Sonic Racing down to then-current smartphones, and Unreal Engine 4 has a lot of mobile hardware focus using the same featureset, so I'd be relatively surprised if they weren't just downports of the existing games.

I think it's more of an issue for something like Battlefield 5 or Watch Dogs 2 to run than a turn based RPG or a game with the scope of a Sonic.

That said, I do feel it's notable that we've seen a pretty limited set of games announced for the platform and that they tend to be the more scalable type of projects.

 

[kswiston]

Best case scenario coming true from my perspective. I gind myself playing portables more than home consoles these days, and we no longer have to worry about focus being split between two devices. Those of you who want a home console can have your NX permanently docked and will likely enjoy traditional controls.

I always thought that a Nintendo system that put everything else to shame was a pipe dream, so a Tegra based system not measuring up to the Neo (or even vanilla PS4) is no big deal. Third parties in the west were never coming back beyond Just Dance and Lego type games anyhow.

 

[EDarkness]

Here's the problem I have with this.

What if I want to use this thing as a console only? I have no desire to take it out into the world. What about downloading games like I do now for the Wii U? What about larger HDDs for storing larger games? I purchased a 2TB drive for my Wii U so that I wouldn't have to worry about storage at all. Will the dock allow for connecting a USB 3.0 HDD so that I can play all my downloaded games there? I definitely don't want to go back to the days of juggling stuff in and out of the fridge.

I have no interest in the handheld part of this. It will be mainly used as a console that sits under the TV. Can we connect up Wii remotes to it instead of using the controllers that disconnect from the system?

I hope Nintendo doesn't let the narrative about their new machine run wild. Can do more harm than good.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

So solely speaking about it as a console, how much better than a Wii U? I keep being surprised what developers managed to do with the Wii U hardware, so anything better will be great, just a shame if it's not at least going to be similar to Xbox One and PS4 capabilities.

 

[Busty]

I wonder, would there be any chance of Nintendo also releasing a cheaper 'console only' or 'handheld only' SKU for this? They could take the battery and the screen out of the base part and release it as a console or take the base out and integrate the controls and release it as a handheld. Might be interesting for the people that are afraid that the combined version would be too expensive.

Interesting idea.

 

[yukonrye]

Think it may be possible for Nintendo to develop a VR headest that this thing can slot into. It would work well with the detachable controllers, assuming it isn't heavy.

Or...maybe the Virtual Boy ruined any chance of Nintendo ever associating with virtual anything.

 

[Dorsal Axe]

No way Breath of the Wild is going to have a comparable experience to Wii U on that thing...

...unless we're missing a pretty large piece of the puzzle here, which is possible. If the docking station increases its power then that would make some sort of sense.

End of the main series from Game Freak. There would still be spinoffs, and maybe even a reboot by another dev. Game Freak might shift focus to mobile, current consoles, and PC. We already know that they have PS4 and Xbone dev kits, and I doubt that they bought them to make only one game. Perhaps they were preparing to part ways with Nintendo.

lol

 

[Fourth Storm]

It depends on the game but I wouldn't really want to play a jump & run using a dpad for buttons.

If the controllers are small, they could easily sell different designs for $20 or so, like they did the nunchuck. But I agree, the primary design needs diamond button config instead of the dpad on the left.

 

[Z3M0G]

"Due to the radical change in hardware design and internal technology, we've been told by one source that there are no plans for backwards compatibility."

Pretty important to note too if it's true

Ok, but not necessarily a bad thing I guess.