Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept

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Super excited. There's no one like Nintendo in this industry. Sony and MS are both replaceable while Nintendo is completely unique, and that's what makes them so interesting. Don't really care too much about power, that's not what Nintendo is about anyway. A bit more powerful than Wii u sounds fine to me.

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Guys, though... all of Nitnendo's new first party games... on one fucking console!

Consider the lineup we'd have had in 2013 if all their teams were releasing on one machine: (Note - includes Nintendo funded / published games)

Pikmin 3
Fire Emblem Awakening
Wonderful 101
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Game & Wario
Zelda Wind Waker HD
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Super Mario 3D World
Pokemon X&Y
Mario & Sonic Winter Olympics
Lego City Undercover
NES Remix
Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Dr. Luigi
Wii Sports Club
Mario Party Island Tour
Wii Fit U
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
Wii Party U

Imagine a year like that - one ONE console! Holy shiiiiiiiiii....

Droughts? What droughts?

This list made me realize I really don't like very many Nintendo games. It will be a great system if you are already a Nintendo fan, but not sure how many people are up for a dedicated system for only those 1st party titles and little else.
 
How does a Tegra X1 compare to a Wii U graphics wise? I think it would be funny if the Wii U version of Zelda BoTW is the best version.
A wii u hits around .3 tflops whereas the tegra (as stated in the op) hits .512. So it's stronger and great hardware for a handheld but disappointing for a home console
 
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Very much excited about this
 
Ughhhhhhhh. I'm 200% done with Wii remotes and Wii accesories. It's been ten years godammit just let them die, Nintendo! Freaking hoping this new console is a brand new beginning with new accesories and stuff. Just keep it simple, Nintendo!

But how are we supposed to play Pikmin 4 and Sin & Punishment 3?
 
Super disappointed by this news. This looks like trash and I don't want a handheld system. I want to play good looking games on my tv. I'll buy this of course, but I won't like it.
 
You know somebody's an extra happy camper.

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Nvidia has not had a game console contract since December 2004 when it was announced that Nvidia was partnering with Sony on the PS3 GPU.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_17342.html

And after the Cell architecture Sony steered clear
 
It's not going to be 1080p on the handheld. At all. It'll be 480p to 540p for battery life.

Just because the handheld screen is low red doesn't mean a powered dock output would be that resolution or upscaled.
Although 540p does upscale nicely to TVs.

Tegra's should be able to deliver at least 720p gaming. That has to be the bare minimum here.
 
Ughhhhhhhh. I'm 200% done with Wii remotes and Wii accesories. It's been ten years godammit just let them die, Nintendo! Freaking hoping this new console is a brand new beginning with new accesories and stuff. Just keep it simple, Nintendo!

yeah, i want to rebuy everything nintendo! fuck the wiimotes and wii u pro controllers i already have, there is nothing like rebuying!
 
A $300 handheld would be DOA. Hopefully Nintendo isn't that dumb.
To be fair, even if it's $300, it's still a handheld AND a console, rolled together. That suddenly seems like a better value proposition. They're going to heavily market the fact it does both, according to the rumor.

I think the form factor is key here. If it looks sleek, if it looks like something people would want to lug around with them, then I think it'll catch on quicker.

...not looking forward to the inevitable revisions every couple years, though.
 
Yeah, the other great thing about consolidating Nintendo's developer output on one console is it eliminates redundancies. Instead of the Mario Kart team making Mario Kart 9 and Mario Kart 10, they can just make Mario Kart 9, and then work on something else... like a new F-Zero, perhaps.

The focused software development angle is the biggest plus in my eyes

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It's going to be amazing as a Nintendo fan. And I'm not even all that excited about this thing being a hybrid!

But at the end of the day, it's about the software and NX is going to have Nintendo games in spades.
So much THIS. It's why I've always been excited about the prospect of NX having a shared library, regardless of any other hardware details. No more "I wish I didn't have to play this game on a tiny screen" or "I wish I could take this game on the road". No more need to buy two systems to get your full Nintendo fix, and more flexibility and choice as to how you'll experience it.

As just a fan of Nintendo games, at the very least it's hard to not be super-excited about the NX's potential. I'm already more interested in NX than I ever was for the Wii U, and we still don't know a whole heck of a lot about it.
 
This isn't about Nintendo. The Wii U was a system almost exclusively supported by Nintendo games and we saw how that worked out for them. Heck, my Wii U library is over 90% Nintendo published titles. (Only Shovel Knight and a couple others are my 3rd party representation). Nintendo cannot support a console without significant reliance on 3rd parties. I would say to be successful, Nintendo needs at least 50% of all software sales to come from 3rd parties, otherwise they aren't doing a good enough job getting 3rd parties to their system. Its going to be yet another uphill climb if this system is still a generation behind XBONE and PS4

This is Nintendo reacting to the reality of their situation.

1) They are not going to chase the other two consoles power wise. They will always be behind because they concentrate on price and family oriented gaming.

2) Third parties were not going to magically come back to Nintendo just because of power. Nintendo has to have a successful console for them to really be into making games for it.

4) Nintendo really is a great software company, people literally buy their consoles for their games. Sony and MS cannot say that with a straight face. by focusing on just one console instead of a home console and a portable they could actually release a formidable library games of games on their own.
 
This should be added to the opening post to calm some people down until we get more information.

Well, setting expectations low isn't exactly a bad thing. If there's one plus from Nintendo putting out under-powered portables for decades, it's that.

This will probably be more expensive than your typical Nintendo portable, probably more in line with their consoles, as a consequence.
 
Super excited. There's no one like Nintendo in this industry. Sony and MS are both replaceable while Nintendo is completely unique, and that's what makes them so interesting. Don't really care too much about power, that's not what Nintendo is about anyway. A bit more powerful than Wii u sounds fine to me.
If you think Sony and MS are interchangeable (especially in this gen) I fear to look at your report cards from gradeschool because you must have payed the LEAST attention from all your peers.
 
So its a portable Wii U, fuck. No way in hell this is going to replace mobile gaming for the casualI and the specs are disappointing for Hardcore Gamers.

Not feeling it bros.
 
A wii u hits around .3 tflops whereas the tegra (as stated in the op) hits .512. So it's stronger and great hardware for a handheld but disappointing for a home console

Unless their is more GPU power in the TV dock which many are suspecting or at this point hoping.
 
Well it looks like devs will have there choice as to whether they want to focus in the handheld side or the console side atleast. Because i just don't see how just Dance is gonna work on a portable lol.
 
This is excellent news, I've wanted Nintendo to unify handhelds and consoles for ages now. Hopefully they can deliver a killer launch lineup and keep pumping out quality games, in order to compensate for the lack of power.
 
I don't think Nintendo will ever do another home console again, their bread and butter is handhelds, and I think at this point in time I'm ok with that.
 
Sounds like basura.

I don't really game on dedicated handhelds anymore. In the rare times I do, it's usually at home anyway. So now I'm stuck with a handheld that isn't quite a handheld, and isn't quite a powerful console. Why are they trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist? Were people dying to connect their handhelds to the screen? Did people really want console experiences on the go with them?

The Vita tried both and failed. It was proof that people don't necessarily need or want that. Unless there's a hidden gpu in that base station, trash confirmed. I would love to be wrong.

I just want a console that at least reaches the power of the X1, and play a 3D Mario on THAT. It seems more and more like a pipedream.

See, I don't get this, why having 3 consoles with similar power but with exclusives?
 
I wonder how digital downloads are going to work. There's no way they're going to put 500GB+ of flash storage in the console, so is it going to have a hard drive? In the controller, stuffed in there with the battery and all the hardware? They could have you connect external HDDs by USB, of course, but then say goodbye to gaming on the go. SD expansion cards aren't going to take you far with full console-sized games.
microSD cards are already exceeding 200GB at affordable prices, so expandable storage shouldn't be an issue long term. For the device's internal storage itself we might see an iDevice model with different amounts at different pricepoints.

Given most games will be from Nintendo, Japanese 3rd parties and indies I expect filesizes aren't going to be much more than we see today outside the western AAA sphere. And game cards at 32GB+ for physical media will probably be a relative rarity.
 
If each controller is independent and you only use one of them while playing... how tf would you play an action game like Bayonetta or a shooter with just a d-pad/XYAB set and a joystick?

The idea of the controllers being detachable seems fine to me if they can unite into a regular controller to play using a TV, but if they are independent we might end up with less buttons than a Wii controller.
 
Mmm, okay...but why should consumers buy it? I guess it's good news for some Nintendo fans because it presumably eliminates the separate handheld console. Without a hook or a catch (beyond the MS Surface hybrid nature) I don't know. Maybe if they introduce it with a VR headset or something. Seems far behind the times if it's going to be using a cellphone processor, I mean high performance graphics cards are more affordable now than they have been in a long time.

I guess I'll have to see when and how they actually reveal it, because there must be more to it.
 
This isn't about Nintendo. The Wii U was a system almost exclusively supported by Nintendo games and we saw how that worked out for them. Heck, my Wii U library is over 90% Nintendo published titles. (Only Shovel Knight and a couple others are my 3rd party representation). Nintendo cannot support a console without significant reliance on 3rd parties. I would say to be successful, Nintendo needs at least 50% of all software sales to come from 3rd parties, otherwise they aren't doing a good enough job getting 3rd parties to their system. Its going to be yet another uphill climb if this system is still a generation behind XBONE and PS4

Unless Nintendo is about to fire a huge chunk of their developer workforce they have tons of studios to make games for their own & single platform.

Maybe they're taking another approach this time. Instead of trying to get FIFA (which let's be honest here, FIFA needs graphics/online structure/multiplayer community to work, I don't think Nintendo can provide all of that) they are targeting Beyond Good & Evil 2. Games they know can sell well on their platform and push them to success.
 
This does explain why Nintendo projects NX to sell so much, as their handheld and console sales will now be one and the same.
 
Of course it's going to be a reskinned, portable WiiU power-wise.

It's the standard Nintendo way of doing hardware. xD

They'll be fine. And we don't know if the docking station will ad computational power.

Anyone expeting Nintendo to compete with raw power and third parties AAA was delusional.

The landscape is definitely changed, and Nintendo is wise adapting to it, if this mean they're going to have a single console for home and portables.

More focused development, more games to the public, more money.
 
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I whipped this up pretty quick. My best guess atm. I'm thinking Wii Remote-style rotation.
I think you have it wrong. My guess is that they're going to be held upright and be a seperated pair, wiimote+nunchuck style.

Put in IR because the wii's IR is usable and shouldbe insanely cheap to add in by this point.
 
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