TLZ
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You've basically just described the whole thread.
Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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You've basically just described the whole thread.
pixelation
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No they won't, Pokemon Go is a hit because its on mobile devices. It would have been far less successful had it launched on a dedicated gaming machine. I highly doubt that people will be running to their local electronic store to get a portable/console gaming hybrid, they already have their phones and tablets and shit.
outunderthestars
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The amount of data needed to download a book vs play a mobile game online is not even in the same ballpark. Also, a cellular radio/GPS chip adds another $60 -$100 in costs and would require users to sign up for a data plan. The Vita tried this and that SKU was DOA.
No way in hell this thing launches with a cellular radio in it. Just not going to happen.
Lil'DigiOp
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The next Pokemon game will be sick on NX.
I wish Sun and Moon could be brought over. Smash4NX is gonna be a mainstay on my console.
I wish Sun and Moon could be brought over. Smash4NX is gonna be a mainstay on my console.
UnemployedVillain
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I don't think we're getting the whole picture with this guys. There are a few things that strike me as odd/not making sense
1. These detachable "controllers". Assuming they're just left and right, do we really expect Nintendo to have people juggling around 2/3 separate pieces per controller? Let's say this supports 4 controllers. That's would mean you either need to buy 4 handheld units (runs into same issue as Wii U with price), or 4 controls units, which mean that the screens will now have to be sold separately as well, which is a bizarre prospect.
2. This completely disregards the fact that a home console can rely on cooling, doesn't have to worry about battery life, and can have a higher wattage and stronger hardware. I refuse to believe this dock is simply a box with an HDMI port.
3. What type of connection will be used between these handheld units and thr base station? I dont think any current means wireless, USB 3.0 will provide a connection with enough bandwidth if the base station has its own hardware, unless they're using some proprietary/custom connection
I feel like this is only half the picture
1. These detachable "controllers". Assuming they're just left and right, do we really expect Nintendo to have people juggling around 2/3 separate pieces per controller? Let's say this supports 4 controllers. That's would mean you either need to buy 4 handheld units (runs into same issue as Wii U with price), or 4 controls units, which mean that the screens will now have to be sold separately as well, which is a bizarre prospect.
2. This completely disregards the fact that a home console can rely on cooling, doesn't have to worry about battery life, and can have a higher wattage and stronger hardware. I refuse to believe this dock is simply a box with an HDMI port.
3. What type of connection will be used between these handheld units and thr base station? I dont think any current means wireless, USB 3.0 will provide a connection with enough bandwidth if the base station has its own hardware, unless they're using some proprietary/custom connection
I feel like this is only half the picture
Yeah, I don't see this as a casual play as much as them combining their Handheld and Console market, putting all those resources into one place and praying that it can be a sustainable business. It could work. We'll have to wait and see. It's probably the biggest chance they have to keep that stuff going.
Having Splatoon, Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter, Mainline mario and zelda, and Pokemon in one place will likely mean the device should get a decent hold in Japan. The west will be interesting to watch.
Mobile is their second platform play for casuals.
Bitch Pudding
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And VGA resolution seemed fine in the 90ies...
I'll definitly buy NX to use it during commuting, but I doubt I'll use it that much on my TV anyhow.
Agreed, there's no way.
Cow Mengde
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We always had half the picture with Nintendo leaks. People never learn and just jump on the first piece of information that might not be finalized.
How they target them will be interesting. The diehards will always be there, of course, but Nintendo needs to figure out the best way to get even a fraction of the Pokemon Go players to pony up for Pokemon NX, Mario NX, etc. Marketing this at the get-go's going to be extremely important, and that's one of the biggest things that doomed Wii U.
wapplew
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If this thing is a competent mini tablet after detached, could be a good selling point.
App support will be crucial thou.
outunderthestars
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A tablet without iOS or Android isn't really useful...
LincolnTunnel
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The Wii used 2 separate pieces for each controller. And why would the screen have to be sold separately without the controller? You buy the device with one controller and the rest are sold on their own, just like every other console.
He said near Neo, what is there to understand?
wapplew
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It just need a good web browser, netflix, spotify, youtube and a media player and I'm good.
Jon Carter
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Let's be fair, Iwata clearly stated it was not a hybrid and that, on the other hand, there could be more form factors. The iOS and Android analogy also goes against this. If this report is true, they've changed their plans for the NX halfway through. People predicting a hybrid after Iwata's numerous comments on the subject weren't right, they were lucky.
So it's an iPad with controllers? Wowee Nintendo is thinking outside a box.
Shame Nintendo is missing the cultural impact of Pokemon GO, which they had no involvement with. It's bigger than the Wii, and Nintendo will have no idea why. No worries, Miyamoto will make another garbage game that reinforces gender stereotypes.
Shame Nintendo is missing the cultural impact of Pokemon GO, which they had no involvement with. It's bigger than the Wii, and Nintendo will have no idea why. No worries, Miyamoto will make another garbage game that reinforces gender stereotypes.
Why wouldn't it?
Mainline Pokémon games have had online support since Gen 4.
That's what I'm sayin' lol
James Scott
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Reading back to the comments it seems like he said they weren't planning on making a singular device, but they can make more than 2 now. Maybe we just read "Iwata said there's no hybrid" out of that.
Would be weird for them to mention the new OS a couple times for it to now happen
They couldn't do Pokemon Go, but they could do other mobile games. I see it happening.
dead_lighter
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Haven't you played link between worlds?
outunderthestars
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Honestly question: who is going to have an NX with them but not a phone?
They could make some mobile games on the platform, but I just don't see a reason why they would.
BocoDragon
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No one is going to drop their IPhone that can play the mobile games to play mobile games on the NX. Hell Nintendo has enough trouble selling a dedicated handheld these days with full featured titles.
Kids.
Relaxed Muscle
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Think of some of the most popular mobile games and you can clearly see most of them uses mobile data extensively.
Dagobert Duck
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Development on this console probably started before the 3DS was even on the market dude, its not that easy to quickly push out a console....
Today is Nintendos briefing for investors right? Do you think they will adress this leak?
dead_lighter
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I hope not. I don't want camera, gps, gyro, rear tactil, any of these mobile sensors that would make this device more expensive. Like the Vita 2 should have been. I don't want mobile games on it.
Yeah, but not all do. I think Nintendo would put out modified version of their own mobile software when possible, if nothing else.
PeterBazooka
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Huh?
Enter the Dragon Punch
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god bless you chinner
This sounds like it will have the worst of both worlds. Bad portable system. Bad home console system. I hope this isn't true.
whoa, I haven't seen an animated avatar on GAF since 2010 (?)
James Scott
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The Tegra X1 is apparently better than the Wii U as is. Not having to deal with Android OS baggage could help as well.
I do hope the dock powers it up though. I imagine not having to down clock the CPU for battery concern a would be one boost, but it would be odd for them to focus so much on the dock if all it did was function as an HDMI out.
Would have to read the patent again, but I think that's what it was for.
Could be neat if they release docks every year or so with added power.
How is it a bad portable?
dead_lighter
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By looking this eurogamer concept, i can't chase out of my mind the image of the famicom because of the two detachable controls 
Because this "handheld" happens to be more powerful than their last home console.
You really want Nintendo to think outside the box? For once they're doing what countless people have said is the most logical thing they can do. By the way, let me know which iPad game comes even close to what Breath of the Wild is doing. This isn't remotely comparable to iPad.
The numerous factors that contributed to Pokemon GO's success cannot be replicated, and Nintendo would be stupid to go down that rabbit hole. Besides which, NX was always going to be a console successor to the Wii U. It's also flat out false to say Nintendo had no involvement with GO.
You sound salty as fuck about Miyamoto, but then again salty seems to be your default mood from the posts I've seen from you.
Not necessarily. Kids are getting smartphones at younger ages now. Especially mow since its alot easier to get one ( availability and price) The fact that kids are getting smartphones at all is something to think about too.
I have a 15 month old son...and was legit shocked to see him swiping the screen on my phone trying open it.
For us it was alot cheaper to get the kids some cheap Android tablets for Christmas vs getting them handhelds. We got 2 more during that Amazon Prime day for Christmas...lol.
Price is gonna be key.
Also have to remember that you can get a phone and use it without a plan. Just have wifi and you are good. Just like a tablet. One son is using a phone now with no plan yet. Just connected to wifi. Can still download n play games, watch YouTube, surf the net.
Sure, but a lot of kids are going to want to get NXs anyways (not to mention their parents), and you may as well slap your mobile games on there when possible. I'm not saying every single mobile game will be on there, but I don't see why Nintendo would miss out on padding their library where they can.
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