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But Trump says what's on his mind! That's all that matters...
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Trump's ties to Putin and other Russian Oligarchs
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But Trump says what's on his mind! That's all that matters...
SmoothOperator
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So let me get this straight gaf : So trump is a russian agent is disguise but hillary who is backed up by the biggest corporations and think tanks including millitary is complete independant and impartial ?
Lol GAF what have you become...
Lol GAF what have you become...
How about you pay attention to the thread and not post disingenuous bullshit?
Like seriously, how the fuck do you get to page 4 of the thread, ignore everything in the op and then come here with that nonsense narrative.
So who do you trust more, the lady that is financed by American corporations or the guy that that is financed by the Russian government?
SmoothOperator
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Stay calm my fellow : No need to be upset, you guys are so out of your mind given the current situation that you're grasping at every single straw you may find, just lol.
Next time on GAF : Trump is triple agent back by China and Russia in a secret mission to destroy america from within.
What a caricature.
Palette Swap
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Dude, huge Freudian slip there.
You're still acting like an idiot here. I should congratulate you at failing to understand anything anybody in this thread has said.
Why are you singling out Clinton like she is the only person who receives money from corporations and Wall St? All of our politicians do, that includes Trump.
I know campaign finance and money in politics is your thing, but come on, a hostile foreign power actively trying to hurt one candidate in the hopes of getting the other elected is far different than corporations donating money to politicians in the hopes that those politicians pass favorable legislation so that they can make more money.
You remotely trying to conflate the two is just silly, and says more about your priorities than anything else.
Hillary does not does the bidding of those who sends polonium to folks and murder journalists
This is wrong, I doubt Trump does the bidding of anybody, but his ties to the kinds of people that do that is undeniable.
I hope you've got them mixed up here. Internal logic doesn't make sense.
boiled goose
good with gravy
whoops.
corrected haha. :3
Trump is so bad that it would likely be better if he was doing someone else's bidding. Wall street and corporations buying our government at least care about general economic stability domestically. Defense contractors do profit from war abroad though.. and NRA from violence in the US.
Swiftboating implies a smear campaign of untruths. This would just be reporting.
I am sure Trump supporters (and probably quite a few on the hard left too) will say that the FBI is corrupt and in the pockets of Clinton and the democrats because they didn't jail Clinton while are accusing Russia of helping Trump win.
The FBI that is currently being led by a Republican.
It's so telling about how much of a threat Hillary is in this election when the entire GOP platform's strategy has not been to highlight concrete policies, but just to slam Hillary. They're afraid and yes she fucked up multiple occasions, I don't trust her entirely BUT she would make a fantastic president, especially with someone like Tim Kaine by her side.
What a terrible article. This really seems to be the strawman that people who find this ridiculous are using. Who is saying that Trump is Putin's agent? What people are saying is that they find it disturbing and these ties are turning into policy that are counter to American interests and favorable to Russia
Not to mention that no one is claiming that Trump is a Putin creation. Distinctions are important and this writer has failed to gasp any of it or simply willfully disregarded it. Not to mention that she fails to mention Trump's bizarre focus on Ukraine Russia GOP platform. The writer ignores it because it can't be explained.
Should people just ignore all of that shit? Ignore the fact that Putin is actively trying to get Trump elected? And simply focus on that Trump is American made and bad for America?
Well no shit Trump is bad for America and American made, but why the hell does that mean that he was/is not being influenced by his pals in Russia who are bankrolling his projects, saying nice things about him, etc? That sort of shit works on a narcissistic egomaniac like Trump. Thats disturbing to me, and I can be worried about a foreign power influencing our elections and also worrying about why so many Americans want to vote for this idiot.
Tal Shiar Agent
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It's dangerous if this goes unchecked. What if the Russians hack into voter registration database and delete voters, hack into the digital voting system and scew votes?
Trump's response on twitter:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758071952498159616
"For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia"
Um, but the problem is Russia having investments in Trump.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758071952498159616
"For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia"
Um, but the problem is Russia having investments in Trump.
andthebeatgoeson
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I love this bear.
I hope Clinton brings this up in the debates.
Yeah, it's blatant misdirection.
BlastProcessing
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Tal Shiar Agent
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Do you have a link to that article?
Tal Shiar Agent
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Is it a speech or an interview?
The interview was actually on NBC last night.
Don't be Increasingly Nervous Man.
Obama talking about it is huge and is going to draw a lot of media attention, especially if he brings it up during his speech tonight. This may be the first thing that really haunts Trump. Not necessarilly with people already in his camp, but with any independents and uncertain voters he may have or may court. Expect Hillary to hammer it hard during the foreign policy debate.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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They don't ignore reality so much as they form their own version of it.
Trump supporters would read this news and sooner start thinking 'maybe Russia isn't all that bad' than they are to start being suspicious of Trump.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Is it on YouTube? What time will he be on CBS?
I hope Trump is arrested aftet the election for treason and ties to a foreign govt. This sort of shit would never have been tolerated during the Cold War and yet somehow it's now acceptable. It's a federal crime for a candidate to receive funding from abroad so Trump is clearly breaking the law.
Oh, and the non-response from the normally hawkish GOP is really quite telling. Clinton won't forget and is hopefully already preparing fresh sanctions on Russia for when she's POTUS.
Oh, and the non-response from the normally hawkish GOP is really quite telling. Clinton won't forget and is hopefully already preparing fresh sanctions on Russia for when she's POTUS.
Looks like the accusations of Russian tampering are gaining traction.
http://gawker.com/fbi-opens-investigation-into-dnc-hack-as-clinton-campai-1784261907
http://gawker.com/fbi-opens-investigation-into-dnc-hack-as-clinton-campai-1784261907
Not nervous at all, I think there's a very high probability that Clinton will win. I have believed for a while now that there's a higher probability of Trump losing every state in the nation by November than winning the Presidency. The Democrats will dig up more dirt on Trump in the coming months. But it's baffling that he still has so much support even after so many scandals that would have sunk any other candidates.
Slurpy2k20
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But hey guys, Trump and Clinton are the same shit, they both suck, I'll be writing in Bernie, err, Jill Stein. Am I doing this right?
MisterFalcon
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I don't remember any outrage back in 2004 when a foreign newspaper made a blatant attempt to influence a US election.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/13/uselections2004.usa11
And they clearly stated you can legally give money as a foreigner:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/13/uselections2004.usa11
And they clearly stated you can legally give money as a foreigner:
TarpitCarnivore
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This is how Trump has fended off every criticism of him since day of the primaries. It will take more than simply calling him out. He's been mastering this for 30+ years.
Haunted
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Why in the fuck would you think that these two instances are even remotely comparable?
One is an opinion piece in a newspaper and the other was an illegal hacking attack by another government.
Fucking think before you post.
While it shouldn't be relieving to know that the son of a major Republican politician (or any politician for that matter) controls the voting machines, I guess in this case I'll take what I can get.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Is it really?
I think this election cycle is showing more than ever that even when you have 2 candidates that are among the most unlikable ever, that people will stick with their party association regardless of how displeasing the candidate is. Republicans will end up voting for Trump no matter how many issues they have with him and Democrats will vote for Hillary no matter how many issues they may have with her.
I mean, you're seeing it on both sides where people are going "Well, I really don't care much for [insert Trump or Hillary here] but letting [insert Trump or Hillary here] win would be the end of America, so I'm going to have to vote for [insert Trump or Hillary here] !"
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