So you're arguing that as long as we get to find out what is in Clinton's email, advocating another government to hack your adversary's email is ok? As a presidential candidate this is excusable? Wow.
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Trump 'hopes' Russia will hack US government for Hillary emails.
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So you're arguing that as long as we get to find out what is in Clinton's email, advocating another government to hack your adversary's email is ok? As a presidential candidate this is excusable? Wow.
I'm not sure what you are even talking about.
LOL - what are you even talking about?
Coincidentally, Trump called for Snowden to
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/2/donald-trump-edward-snowden-kill-traitor/
Not only is this an obvious lie, but if it were true, it would mean he does not know who the leader of Russia is, while running for president.
SporeCrawler
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funny how a republican candidate can state that he hopes a foreign country (and russia no less) hacks the US.
its like trump said. he can kill people on the street and nobody would give a shit.
its like trump said. he can kill people on the street and nobody would give a shit.
balladofwindfishes
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Yes, he should (for being a rapist), but that's unrelated to the topic.
Acutally, he should be shot (in my humble opinion), but that's beside the point...
Assange is the alleged rapist, I should point out.
This isn't the "making fun of people racists and similar people already hate" that Trump's gotten away with until now, this is advocating a breach of national security. I highly doubt people aren't going to give a shit with this one.
Got your next commercial right here.
This. You're never going to get a racist to stop being racist but you can show them that their golden boy Trump is in, whether literally or not, with "the reds". If this world had any semblance of logic this will really hurt Trump's standing with the Baby Boomer crowd.
Netherscourge
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The "truth" is not the motive with these timed DNC leaks.
NullPointer
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Its not like he even just randomly shat this out in a midnight tweet. This childish fuck of a man held a press conference, looked into the camera and straight up asked the Russians to hack US files to uncover dirt on his opponent.
Lets be done with this fucking farce already. Can we all just stop pretending this man deserves any authority whatsoever? That this is anything besides sick entertainment?
Lets be done with this fucking farce already. Can we all just stop pretending this man deserves any authority whatsoever? That this is anything besides sick entertainment?
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
BTW those who are saying it was joke, an MSNBC reporter followed by asking if he has any qualms or if it gives him pause. He said "no" after telling her to be quiet.
also:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211599405&postcount=1
@MareikeAden
I asked @realDonaldTrump:"Would you as president want to recognize #Crimea as Russian, lift sanctions?" - "Yes we would be looking at that"
also:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211599405&postcount=1
@MareikeAden
I asked @realDonaldTrump:"Would you as president want to recognize #Crimea as Russian, lift sanctions?" - "Yes we would be looking at that"
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
he just speaks his traitorous mind
ShockingAlberto
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In fairness to the press conference idea, no one is talking about how he blamed Tim Kaine for messing up New Jersey.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
such a great American
What the fuck?
Pai Pai Master
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This is the guy the GOP chose to debate former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
LOL
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I just want a President I could have a beer with while discussing the merits of mild treason.
BFIB
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tfur
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Brilliant strategy.
The public will be drawn away from the convention highlights.
The public will be reminded of Clinton email scandal.
This goes to further the narrative that Clinton, DNC and the State Department are soft on security.
This re-enforces the notion that there is more dirt to uncover, and why be upset if there is nothing else to uncover.
This leaves the door open, and the public waiting for a shoe to drop on what exactly Clinton deleted.
I expect Trump and related to say something to the effect: "This would not be a problem if she and everyone around her did not compromise security." For the entire campaign.
The public will be drawn away from the convention highlights.
The public will be reminded of Clinton email scandal.
This goes to further the narrative that Clinton, DNC and the State Department are soft on security.
This re-enforces the notion that there is more dirt to uncover, and why be upset if there is nothing else to uncover.
This leaves the door open, and the public waiting for a shoe to drop on what exactly Clinton deleted.
I expect Trump and related to say something to the effect: "This would not be a problem if she and everyone around her did not compromise security." For the entire campaign.
Euphoria14
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I have a guy at work who is a Trump supporter. When asked his opinion on this he said "Forget about what he said. What is the root cause here? It's the fact Hillary even had a private server for Russia to try and hack!"
Then says he doesn't understand how my logic works.
Then says he doesn't understand how my logic works.
gutter_trash
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both Snowdown and Asange should got to jail, yes
Applying "They were asking for it!" to NATIONAL SECURITY. That's a new one.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
If there is any line of attack that could lose Trump's support amongst his base, it would be implying that he's a tool of the Russians.
Given his anti-NATO and pro-Russian comments, it would be pretty easy to paint such a picture.
Given his anti-NATO and pro-Russian comments, it would be pretty easy to paint such a picture.
You don't get it, all he has to do is go up there and shout, spew a couple insults and get some jabs in; then roll with the hits Benghazi, Emails and he's fine in the eyes of his base.
timetokill
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Well, luckily Hillary didn't do anything wrong so there'll be nothing to find
His base will not win him this election.
OriginofHysteria
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I was thinking this exact same thing. If people were up in arms about Nixon spying on the Democratic committee, how are people not in arms by Trump publicly encouraging foreign nations to hack this political adversary, which in my opinion is WAY worse than what Nixon did.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Talk about a backfire for Wikileaks lol
Jacksinthe
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Yeah, true.
I'll be glad when this ride ends but, for now, it's stunning in so many ways to witness XD
Who in this thread thinks Trump should go to prison for mere words, and that Hillary shouldn't for actual actions that may have led to leak of state secrets to Russia?
Seems like neogaf.gif is alive and well here, so hypocritical...
As far as I'm concerned it'd be best if they both went and shared a cell
(although I don't see what one could charge Trump with, maybe hate speech but it might be a reach...)
Seems like neogaf.gif is alive and well here, so hypocritical...
As far as I'm concerned it'd be best if they both went and shared a cell
(although I don't see what one could charge Trump with, maybe hate speech but it might be a reach...)demolitiongc1
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I don't agree with what Trump said about Snowden but unfortunately I don't think his thoughts are that different from the rest of Washington, they're just afraid to say it. Why else do you think he's still in Russia.
Just because we live in a certain country shouldn't mean that we are be okay with our government being completely corrupt and lying/hiding it from us. You guys are literally accusing the people trying to expose corruption instead of blaming the ones that are corrupted. It's like the twilight-zone in here.
Just because we live in a certain country shouldn't mean that we are be okay with our government being completely corrupt and lying/hiding it from us. You guys are literally accusing the people trying to expose corruption instead of blaming the ones that are corrupted. It's like the twilight-zone in here.
Is there precedent for people going to jail for doing something that MAY have led to leaks to foreign governments? All examples I've seen weren't "may have led" -- they were "intentionally gave/leaked"Who in this thread thinks Trump should go to prison for mere words, and that Hillary shouldn't for actual actions that may have led to leak of state secrets to Russia?
Seems like neogaf.gif is alive and well here, so hypocritical...
As far as I'm concerned it'd be best if they both went and shared a cell
Edit: and to be clear, I'm not suggesting trump go to jail for saying this
Pai Pai Master
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His base isn't big enough to elect him and it will only shrink once it becomes clear that he is stooging hard for Putin and his ilk.
Arrogant Bastard
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We only do that to pointlessly investigate democrats 1000x.
I'm not a lawyer but don't think it should necessarily matter whether whether foreign governments were able to actually retrieve secrets that were left wide open.
If I become a secret agent and casually drop secret stuff on the street while walking my dog, I should probably go to prison. Obviously that's not exactly what Hillary did, but you get the idea.
None of Trump's previous comments hurt him because there was nothing for those comments to hurt - his only base of supporters were the kind of people who found those sort of comments appealing. No one who would find questioning a natural born judge's loyalty to the the United States because of his Mexican ancestry unacceptable was supporting Trump, thus he lost no support for those remarks. However, these sort of comments being repeatedly made do put more and more weight on top of Trump's ceiling.
These recent comments in conjunction with the pattern of evidence as previously enumerated in this thread could serve to actually hurt Trump among his base of Republicans - and also of course just adds another weight to the crushing pressure pushing down on his ceiling.
These recent comments in conjunction with the pattern of evidence as previously enumerated in this thread could serve to actually hurt Trump among his base of Republicans - and also of course just adds another weight to the crushing pressure pushing down on his ceiling.
demolitiongc1
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Who in this thread thinks Trump should go to prison for mere words, and that Hillary shouldn't for actual actions that may have led to leak of state secrets to Russia?
Seems like neogaf.gif is alive and well here, so hypocritical...
As far as I'm concerned it'd be best if they both went and shared a cell
Completely agree about the need for that neogaf.gif right about now. The blind bias around here is amazing. They are siding with someone who has actually been caught committing crimes against their country.
EatinOlives
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It's actually a terrible strategy and only provides an even greater contrast between Trump's idiocy and the DNC itself.
LOL, no it won't. People are gonna tune in to hear Obama, they're not gonna instead spend all their time on Breitbart furiously searching for the next hacking development.
Only the nutjobs who like to remind themselves about the email scandal at the drop of a napkin.
I've never heard this from anyone at all. Where are you getting this from?
They already released shit on Monday and it has already fallen flat. The "dirt" only sticks if there's actual dirt, and Wikileaks has been arm flailing the past week trying to legitimize their leak and failing.
Conspiracy nutjobs will always "wait for the shoe to drop". They're still "waiting for the shoe to drop" on Obama being a secret Kenyan Muslim. Not to mention this hacking and/or leak has absolutely nothing to do with Clinton, it's exclusively a DNC hack.
People are waaaaay too quick to pretend that Trump is a "master manipulator" or a "genius". I don't even know what the constant spin on that is even supposed to accomplish.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Oh boy, I wonder why everybody turned on the heroic whistleblowers that couldn't be assed to redact irrelevant content so the personal information of citizens wouldn't be exposed.
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