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Trump 'hopes' Russia will hack US government for Hillary emails.

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It's not an "excuse", it's an explanation that he wasn't actually "calling on Russia" to do anything, and it would be very easy to justify in a court room that most adults could pick up on the intended tone of the comment. Granted, irl, I'm sure he does hope that Russia gives him ammo, but the people claiming this as treasonous or seditious are being ridiculous.

Yep.

If you watched that video, and your first thought is of treason, you probably have a problem understanding context.
 
What makes this crazy is Trump doubling down on this and opening the door of any concept of foreign cyber attacks and mix and matching the DNC email security issue with Secretary Clinton email security.

Trump and his team actually had the ability to turn this into an actual positive for his campaign by talking about how serious cyber security is in the world today, but no, he went in the absolutely insane direction of suggesting to continue to attack US entities for his potential gain.

This is seriously shocking and dangerous.
 
What makes this crazy is Trump doubling down on this and opening the door of any concept of foreign cyber attacks and mix and matching the DNC email security issue with Secretary Clinton email security.

Trump and his team actually had the ability to turn this into an actual positive for his campaign by talking about how serious cyber security is in the world today, but no, he went in the absolutely insane direction of suggesting to continue to attack US entities for his potential gain.

This is seriously shocking and dangerous.
I'm sure his new campaign advisor is loving live right now.
 
Yep.

If you watched that video, and your first thought is of treason, you probably have a problem understanding context.

If you've been following everything that's going on regarding Trump and Russia, and your first thought is that there's no smoke, you probably have a problem understanding rationality.
 
Well, you see, the problem with Hillary's private server is that it had classified information on it and could've been hacked by the Russians. So I really hope that the Russians hacked her server so we could find out what classified information she had on it and find out if the Russians hacked it.



The head of the FBI is Republican, for A. And B have you not seen the tea party hearings on this matter and Benghazi?

So you guys still think the two parties are completely separate from one another? LOL okay, I see we don't pay attention to common sense or facts.
 
Honestly, this comment is far less worrying than this actual policies for Russia.

One is just Trump being stupid, and the other is Trump giving the okay to Russia to do whatever they want for who knows what reason.
 
It's not an "excuse", it's an explanation that he wasn't actually "calling on Russia" to do anything, and it would be very easy to justify in a court room that most adults could pick up on the intended tone of the comment. Granted, irl, I'm sure he does hope that Russia gives him ammo, but the people claiming this as treasonous or seditious are being ridiculous.

That's a garbage explanation. So he actually believes it but it's ok since he was being cheeky about it on a national stage and then doubled down on the comment online? No other public figure could get away with joking about a foreign nation attacking a Presidential candidate's computer and I refuse to pretend it's ok for Trump to do it since he's consistenyl a gas bag.

His comments reflect negatively on this country and show that he is completely unfit to be President directly because he thinks major national security issues are ok to joke about. There is no excuse for bullshit like this and his tone is not a reasonable explanation for invoking illegal activity to the detriment of this country.
 
Man, talk about making something out of nothing.

It's very obvious from that video that he's talking about Russia finding deleted emails from when they already hacked her server.

I didn't see anything about him begging to hack the us government or committing treason. Amazing.

Did you even watch the video? Its the most un-presidential thing I have ever seen in my life and quite frankly obscene. How anyone can spin this as anything other than straight out indifensible is beyond me.
 
So you guys still think the two parties are completely separate from one another? LOL okay, I see we don't pay attention to common sense or facts.

Explain this common sense to me. How far does this plot go? It would have to go pretty far back as no one who has done the same thing as Hillary has been thrown in jail. Mind you, they get their access restricted.
 
Honestly, this comment is far less worrying than this actual policies for Russia.

One is just Trump being stupid, and the other is Trump giving the okay to Russia to do whatever they want for who knows what reason.
He could very well count on Putin to join his side in case of a civil war in America. Sounds totally crazy to read that. But he's mental and he could very well think of such a thing. Trump is breaking the country in two. He's fostering hate. He is crazy and dangerous. Crazy dangerous.
 
I seriously cannot believe that our standards for presidential candidates have plummeted so low that this kind of behavior can be shrugged off. This is a man who is asking to command our military, to defend our Constitution, and be the face and voice of the United States and the free world.

Its fucking insanity.

Madeleine Albright was right - Trump has already done plenty of damage just by running.
 
Speech like that isn't protected by the first admendment though. I don't think it matters what his intent was. There is very little protecting Trump right now.

Intent almost always matters in a criminal prosecution and intent definitely matters when it comes to speech - or at least what a reasonable audience would believe was intended by the speech.
 
So you guys still think the two parties are completely separate from one another? LOL okay, I see we don't pay attention to common sense or facts.
This is the most polarized Congress in history, so yeah, the parties are about as separate as they could be.

Your "common sense" is the same "common sense" that leads people to saying jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
 
Yep.

If you watched that video, and your first thought is of treason, you probably have a problem understanding context.

If you didn't put this in a contextual situation with everything this man has said in the past year and half then you might have a problem. He has dropped so many statements that have been misinterpreted its astounding.

Blood coming out of whatever, I don't remember, PoW's, Mexicans, White supremacy, on and on.

Yah, I'm sure it was nothing, just like all those, we are misinterpreting what he said.
 
That's a garbage explanation. So he actually believes it but it's ok since he was being cheeky about it on a national stage and then doubled down on the comment online? No other public figure could get away with joking about a foreign nation attacking a Presidential candidate's computer and I refuse to pretend it's ok for Trump to do it since he's consistenyl a gas bag.

His comments reflect negatively on this country and show that he is completely unfit to be President directly because he thinks major national security issues are ok to joke about. There is no excuse for bullshit like this and his tone is not a reasonable explanation for invoking illegal activity to the detriment of this country.
Joke or no joke, the problem the CIA, DoD and other intelligence agencies face now is actionable intel in the (small) hands of this clown king. Like, whats to say he wont leak the locations of our secret facilities in Europe in a bid to buy a piece of land for his next golf course. This guy is totally in it for himself and even the insinuation that he's loose with the security of our national interests is worrying.
 
I seriously cannot believe that our standards for presidential candidates have plummeted so low that this kind of behavior can be shrugged off.

Its fucking insanity.

Madeleine Albright was right - Trump has already done plenty of damage just by running.

She's the only one so far to show the gravity of recklessness and incompetence that Trump exemplifies.
 
You guys just aren't woke enough to realize the political parties are four sides of the same coin.
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I don't know man.

Publicly committing a crime, versus already being proven to have committed no crime, seem like very good reasons Trump should go to trial on this while Hillary doesn't.

If you're truly sure that what Trump did here must be a crime, you might be a tad biased to say the least. He's an arrogant dumb asshole, but that doesn't make these comments a crime for sure.

Best we can hope for is that more Americans see this quote as proof of his utter stupidity, or otherwise dislike him enough for it.
 
He could very well count on Putin to join his side in case of a civil war in America. Sounds totally crazy to read that. But he's mental and he could very well think of such a thing. Trump is breaking the country in two. He's fostering hate. He is crazy and dangerous. Crazy dangerous.
LOL @ "civil war in America"

No, that won't happen. No matter how crazy Trump is, that ain't happening.
 
If you're truly sure that what Trump did here must be a crime, you might be a tad biased to say the least. He's an arrogant dumb asshole, but that doesn't make these comments a crime for sure.

Best we can hope for is that more Americans see this quote as proof of his utter stupidity, or otherwise dislike him enough for it.
Telling someone to commit a crime isn't protected speech in this country.
 
Trump is saying everything he can to lose this election, yet people are still voting for him. Makes no sense.

Welcome to the conservatie parties. It's the same in Europe.
 
This asshole can get away with anything. Anyone else that said even half the stupid shit that comes out of his mouth would be shamed out of politics forever.
 
Is this actually treasonous? No, of course not. But its a hell of a fucking thing to say. I'm not even going to say "but if Hillary", if goddamn John McCain had joked "man I hope Bin Laden keeps out of reach long enough for me to get him" in 2008 it would be a firestorm
 
It's okay I'll let you guys continue living in your world. I just encourage everyone to think independently sometimes and not always believe what you're told.

I hate this type of shit. Just because someone doesn't think like you doesn't mean they are dumb and or just believe what they are told. Such a lame thing to say.
 
Do you think that this is what's actually happening here? That Trump is openly offering to conspire with Russian hackers to help them get into Hillary's emails? Or do you think that maybe Trump is just making another attempt to push from a criticism of him, this ongoing issue of ties to Russia, into one of his standard attacks on Hillary?

Like, granted this is a dumb thing to say, like most of the shit that comes out of his mouth. But it's not zomg treason #TrumpForPrison.



Communism was just a red herring.
I think that Trump's foreign policy is suspiciously close to Russian foreign policy in thay everything he espouses is to the benefit of Russia and not the US or its allies. As such I don't believe that this is just a joke or a coincidence.
 
I seriously cannot believe that our standards for presidential candidates have plummeted so low that this kind of behavior can be shrugged off. This is a man who is asking to command our military, to defend our Constitution, and be the face and voice of the United States and the free world.

Its fucking insanity.

Madeleine Albright was right - Trump has already done plenty of damage just by running.

It's being shrugged off because he is a Republican. If he was a Democrat he would be toast.

The Republican motto has been "Party above Country" and they view democrats as the "true" enemies.
 
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