Donald Trump suggests 2nd Amendment Folks do something about Hillary

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That's how I interpret it too. Second Amendment People sounds like how a 6 year old might describe guns rights groups. I also don't really know what he could be suggesting they do, since he is clearly speaking on their ability to do something once she is elected.

And that it would be "a horrible day"
 
Also, the super fast, just-an-aside tone he delivered the line with is what he always goes to when he's trying to be mischievous say something politically incorrect that the establishment doesn't want you to hear. Not exactly the time he would use if his message was actually "go vote".
 
He immediately followed with "and that would be a terrible day..." so I don't know how anyone could entertain the idea that he meant anything but somebody actually gunning down HRC.

Ok I'm all on board that this was condoning violence but the context of "and that would be a terrible day" was followed by "if Hillary gets to put her judges".
 
That's right. Context, people. In Trump's little 'joke' premise, Hillary has already been elected president.

Some of the news outlets are actually picking up on that.
Donald Trump said that if Hillary Clinton “gets to pick her judges” there will be “nothing you can do” — unless you are a Second Amendment person. The GOP nominee was, therefore, clearly describing the aftermath of Clinton’s election.
NY Mag

And...
Former CIA director Michael Hayden didn’t buy that explanation.

“You’re not only responsible for what you say; you’re responsible for what others hear,” Hayden said on CNN, adding that if someone other than Trump had said the same thing at the rally, “they’d be in a police wagon being questioned by Secret Service.”
 
What I don't understand is how these Republican supporters can defend Trump by implying that his comments were ambiguous and misunderstood. Uhh....ok? Who gives a fuck? Do we want a President who makes ambiguous comments which could range from treason to declarations of war to "merely implying this or that." What difference does it make?
 

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This is going to be one of those years that, when our kids are reading about it in a history book, they'll have a million questions we won't be able to answer because "yeah, we didn't understand any of it even as it happened. Sometimes shit just gets really out of hand, and it never stopped"
Just like to how we still bring up Barry Goldwater 52 years later, Trump will be a case study for the next 100 years with all the media compilation
 
I think the 'horrible day thing' was him going back and saying it'd be a horrible day when Hillary gets to pick judges, but the other stuff is 100% indefensible (Not that I'd want to, anyway)
 
how royally fucked is it that the secret service has to say that they are aware of the comments made by a fucking presidential candidate

To be fair, it's probably in response to tons and tons of people tweeting them about it. Still, the fact that they acknowledged it means that they're likely going to do at least a cursory investigation.
 
That's right. Context, people. In Trump's little 'joke' premise, Hillary has already been elected president.

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Oh fucking shit son


"2nd amendment" aka nra have been stopping obama and Dems from implementing gun control after Obama became president.

He gave himself enough cover to say really awful shit and still have room to deny it.


The terrible part is the weird comment, like wtf is he even saying lol
 
how royally fucked is it that the secret service has to say that they are aware of the comments made by a fucking presidential candidate

Believe it or not this is the 2nd time they have issued that kind of statement. They "looked into" comments made by one of his campaign advisers when he called for Hillary to be executed via a firing squad, and he's still working for his campaign last I checked.
 
Exactly. How would Hillary somehow getting impeached/kicked out of office through non-violent, entirely political means "horrible"? Horrible is not a term I'd use for my political opponent losing politically.

He's saying it would be a horrible day if she got to put in her Supreme Court picks.
 
What I don't understand is how these Republican supporters can defend Trump by implying that his comments were ambiguous and misunderstood. Uhh....ok? Who gives a fuck? Do we want a President who makes ambiguous comments which could range from treason to declarations of war to "merely implying this or that." What difference does it make?
This is what I was thinking. It looks awful no matter how you interpret it. It's a great example of how unfit he is and by defending it you look like at best you are defending a moron.
 
Front page of BBC News in Olympic Season. Crazy stuff.

Americans, if you under-report this then we've got some very serious talking to do.
 
Of course he was making a dumb inappropriate joke. And unfortunately, he couched in a way that there's some plausible deniability. But anyone with any sense wasn't voting for the idiot in the first place, regardless of these comments.

You imagine Hillary or any Dem saying anything close to this about a Republican and the outcry would be absolutely massive.

It's pretty amazing. This is supposed to be a dead part of the campaign season and Trump managed to break through again and make himself look worse! Not gonna be satisfied till that Nowcast falls at 99%
 
No I think you remembered it all, its just confusing as hell. But also he wasn't stuttering or stammering, it wasn't his usual word barf

Listening to it again he seems a lot more quiet and nervous than when he was doing shit like making fun of disabled people, make it come out a lot more confusing.
 
The GOP just needs to go and die, crash and burn to ashes and be spread by the winds.

Ever since the tea party movement it has been slowly degenerating to a party ruled by idiocracy.
 
lol @ anyone trying to defend this man. Horrible human being. Anyone with half a brain cell knew what he was insinuating. I'll do my part and make sure all my family & Friends vote for Clinton.
 
OK new strategy if I'm the GOP. Drop Trump and then turn his own tactics against him by suggesting that he was in cahoots with Hillary all along. They've demonized her for decades, so their best bet is to go all in and separate themselves from the guy who is giving their party a horrible look. Anybody who still fervently supports Trump likely does so as an anti-establishment, anti-Hillary alternative. They'd just switch to whoever the GOP props up, especially if they target their anger towards Hillary rather than towards the GOP.
 
Guys being serious here. I am very disappointed in America in having him in this position. I'm sorry but all this greatest country stuff needs to stop. We need to stop trying to declare what we are and start fixing our "deep rooted" problems that would allow a guy like this to be a potential president.

Most people DO make America great.

But we have a deeply rooted portion of the population that's been fed a non-stop steady diet of hatred, xenophobia, racism, and misogyny for years, through implications and insinuations from a prominent political party. Trump is not the disease but the symptom, and he's the PERFECT representation of all those fears and intolerance bottled up in a lumber, orange monster.

The racists, the bigots, the nutcases... they always were here, but Trump became a lightning rod, a flame that drew in the moths, and he made it socially acceptable to be a jackass in public again... instead of behind closed doors or the anonymity of the internet.

But that's the point where I view those that stand against such rhetoric as the things that "make America great" because they actually believe in and stand for those values... in the face of a hateful mass of people who support a man with no respect for those values.

... The only cure is to change hearts and minds, though, and that is damn harder to do than enacting any law.
 
It's hard to imagine for an adult, especially one who has had success, but Trump really doesn't think before he speaks. I mean really, truly doesn't. If you were to pause time right after he made this comment and have his campaign go, "Dude, you know how it's going to come off", he might agree and they'd reverse time and he'd do it over; but he himself is incapable of thinking beyond his immediate feelings and the words he uses to convey them.
 
Guys being serious here. I am very disappointed in America in having him in this position. I'm sorry but all this greatest country stuff needs to stop. We need to stop trying to declare what we are and start fixing our "deep rooted" problems that would allow a guy like this to be a potential president.

You're mistaken in thinking this is just an American problem. The far right has been resurging all around the world.
 
At the very least that man is unfit to be president because he can fucking speak without making any sense. His statements are so moronic and idiotic that you can't tell if he's calling for violence or political pressure.

That alone is enough for the guy to not be anywhere close to the White House.



But when you add all the crooked Hillary, lying Hillary, lock her up, and Russian hacking how can we not think he meant what everything thinks he meant??
 
It's hard to imagine for an adult, especially one who has had success, but Trump really doesn't think before he speaks. I mean really, truly doesn't. If you were to pause time right after he made this comment and have his campaign go, "Dude, you know how it's going to come off", he might agree and they'd reverse time and he'd do it over; but he himself is incapable of thinking beyond his immediate feelings and the words he uses to convey them.
Do you really have to think before ordering an assassination tho.

Like, does anyone really almost order an assassination but then stop and think hmm maybe I shouldn't order an assassination.
 
This was just the corollary of the Republican strategy, including the RNC mob hollering chants of Lock her up, speakers saying she's the devil and then double down on it, their candidate inviting a foreign country to hack and spread Clinton's emails. This is his end game. If he can't win, well, just make a veiled suggestion of assassination and wait for it to materialize.
 
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