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[Nightengale]

They don't need one with TGS in mid September and PSX in December.

Re: XV, of course SE isn't going to talk about a console that isn't officially announced yet.

Sony Global doesn't need one, but Sony Europe probably do.

 

[Ck1]

So how much supercharged PC technology is this thing suppose to have? Lol

 

[LiquidSolid]

From the article at Giant Bomb, "Starting in October, every PS4 game is required to ship with both a “Base Mode” which will run on the currently available PS4 and a “NEO Mode” for use on the new console."

FFXV launches in September. That means FFXV is not required to have Neo-specific performance (yet) and Tabata has stated that they have not been working on Neo-related performance improvements, so take that as you will.

Last Guardian, however, launches in October, so will be required to take (some) advantage of Neo's power. Hope that helps!

Read the entire article you just linked:

Though every PS4 game released as of October of this year will need to support both the original PS4 and the NEO, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the Neo will release in October. Additionally, games released in the late September window will require a day one patch that updates them to NEO standards. The documents we’ve received explicitly note that devs are allowed to launch NEO-ready games before the NEO itself releases.

FFXV IS required to support Neo via a day one patch.

 

[boredandlazy]

I'm waiting on seeing what storage is available before I consider selling my PS4. As I have an SSHD in mine, if the Neo comes with a standard HDD I'll have to swap it over.

 

[Hexa]

Sony Global doesn't need one, but Sony Europe probably do.

Do you think that PSX might be in Europe this year? Or maybe, have the dual conference thing like what EA did at E3 this year.

 

[Manmademan]

My purchase of this thing depends on one of two things:

a) is FFXV upgraded for it?
b) is The Last Guardian upgraded for it?

If the answer is no, I'll happily live without a Neo for awhile.

everything october and forward must support the neo. so yes.

 

[Oneself]

I'm waaay more excited about this than I thought I would be.

=]

 

[Vanillalite]

Wonder if they will have an improved DS4.

I have a 4K TV, but will probably pass on this. Current PS4 is fine for me, and my Samsung upscales content extremely well as is.

I'd be down for picking up an improved DS4 so long as they don't make some $150 elite model as that's too rich for my blood.

 

[tiebreaker]

DON'T expect Neo by the time of FFXV. It will most likely launch in October or early November.

Kagari has hinted a FF XV PS4 bundle before IIRC. With the game releases in 2 months and no announcement of bundle yet, I'm assuming Square is waiting for Sony to announce the Neo first, before the bundle's announcement.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Kagari has hinted a FF XV PS4 bundle before IIRC. With the game releases in 2 months and no announcement of bundle yet, I'm assuming Square is waiting for Sony to announce the Neo first, before the bundle's announcement.

Someone should ask Tabata next week at gamescom on the Neo again >.>

 

[sixteen-bit]

will tune into the livestream

 

[funkystudent]

Do you think that PSX might be in Europe this year? Or maybe, have the dual conference thing like what EA did at E3 this year.

SCEE ran the 2013 PlayStation meeting. They could be handling this one too. Both just happen to be in NYC.

Enough Sony America people have mentioned PSX already that I assume they will be doing another one in the US this year though.


Actually I wonder if this event is replacing this years gamescom / PGW presser. I dont even think Sony has said they are doing a stage show at Paris so maybe this is it?

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Kagari has hinted a FF XV PS4 bundle before IIRC. With the game releases in 2 months and no announcement of bundle yet, I'm assuming Square is waiting for Sony to announce the Neo first, before the bundle's announcement.

I'll a buy FFXV Neo bundle for sure. I had not considered the possibility of it being bundled with a game this Fall.

 

[ethomaz]

My purchase of this thing depends on one of two things:

a) is FFXV upgraded for it?
b) is The Last Guardian upgraded for it?

If the answer is no, I'll happily live without a Neo for awhile.

September games are required to have day one patch on Neo launch.
October games are required to be released with Neo mode.

So yes for both.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Do you think that PSX might be in Europe this year? Or maybe, have the dual conference thing like what EA did at E3 this year.

Oooooh, a dual conference might be cool. I think Europes own PSX might be a better idea though.

Having said that, I don't think Sony is having a press conference at gamescom or PGW anymore. I'm going to say that is officially done.

 

[krae_man]

Do you think that PSX might be in Europe this year? Or maybe, have the dual conference thing like what EA did at E3 this year.

Maybe, Doesn't look like PSX will be in San Fran. Moscone is booked the beginning of December.

They announced PSX Aug 14th last year so we might get an announcement soon. Or they will wait until after this thing. We should find out soon.

 

[slapnuts]

So glad i sold my PS4 a few months back for 275 usd. Im super stoked for the new updated PS4 Neo!

 

[EVA UNIT 01]

My PS4 has recently joined the ranks of jet engine like others have.
Need that upgrade.

When the releaae date is revealed ill sell if its actually this year.

 

[kenji_sama]

They don't need one with TGS in mid September and PSX in December.

Re: XV, of course SE isn't going to talk about a console that isn't officially announced yet.

Kagari, do you think there will be vanilla PS4 slim version? I think PS4 slim version at 249$ - 299$ + FFXV combo will increase hardware sale.

 

[ViciousDS]

Will buy just for Final Fantasy 15, which is sad because technically that means I went through two consoles to get to Final Fantasy VS 13. I initially bought the PS3 for it, then the PS4 and now I want the upgrade in the PS 4.5

 

[iamvin22]

lol at scorpio

 

[The Last One]

Kagari, do you think there will be vanilla PS4 slim version? I think PS4 slim version at 249$ - 299$ + FFXV combo will increase hardware sale.

In Japan that would be the best option. I hope it happens.

 

[Two Words]

I wonder if that rainbow bar in the PlayStation Meeting picture is a hint at HDR support.

 

[shotgunbob04]

Well, it was a good run while it lasted, OG PS4.

And I also thought the strip of colors might be implying HDR support.

 

[The Ummah]

Hoping some type of trade-up deal will be available through one of these retail outlets.

 

[Alebrije]

NX and Neo at the same month .... great

 

[stpfarms]

Well, it was a good run while it lasted, OG PS4.

And I also thought the strip of colors might be implying HDR support.

It reminded me of the Sony Trinitron.

 

[Metfanant]

Bring it on Sony

 

[Frostburn]

I'm excited for this, I have all "Current Gen" consoles and a gaming PC. For the past year or so all I really turn on to game console wise is the PS4 with most of my gaming done on PC. If I can get better looking/performing PS4 games I'm down for that.

 

[molnizzle]

So this the beginning of the yearly releases right? Guess I'm out of this and might just get a good PC.

Funny, because I'm probably gonna do the opposite and go from primarily PC to upgraded consoles every few years.

There's still plenty of bullshit to deal with on PC.

 

[Trago]

PlayStation exclusives on 4TF of power!

Lets go!!!!!!

 

[TheKastorian]

Hype!

 

[Massa]

So how much supercharged PC technology is this thing suppose to have? Lol

It's the same architecture as the original PS4, with shared memory between CPU and GPU.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Gosh the more I read about this the more I need to see the games running on it.

Console games on Neo and Scorpio with that power even at launch should make our eyes bleed.

Don't get so excited, most of them (atleast on NEO, no idea on scorpio) are going to be upports anyway. Its just the easiest way to give everybody a quality experience, most especially the 40 million userbase already lined up.

NEO is still a niche device that won't be considered anything more than a more powerful PS4, thus no push to take extra advantage of it outside of res, FPS and a few small graphical extras.

Fluctuating 30/60 = solid 30/60 and 1080p minimum at all times is the base expectation you should have.

 

[onQ123]

Don't get so excited, most of them (atleast on NEO, no idea on scorpio) are going to be upports anyway. Its just the easiest way to give everybody a quality experience, most especially the 40 million userbase already lined up.

NEO is still a niche device that won't be considered anything more than a more powerful PS4, thus no push to take extra advantage of it outside of res, FPS and a few small graphical extras.

Fluctuating 30/60 = solid 30/60 and 1080p minimum at all times is the base expectation you should have.

1800P minimum not 1080P

 

[Trago]

I can't imagine what Sony's top developers can do with that hardware man. I'm legit shook.

 

[Insane Metal]

Meh. Fuck that Neo thing. Gimme games.

 

[oSoLucky]

The real question for me is to get rid of the Destiny TTK LE PS4 or the UC4 LE PS4. I wonder if it will be a similar form factor....

 

[Inuhanyou]

1800P minimum not 1080P

Uh, every game is not expected to be 1800p minimum, that's crazy talk. Sony have said that at launch, the only requirement will be that games are 1080p minimum and the FPS doesn't run worse than OG PS4.

You might be confused with the PDF stating that the NEO mode SDK at the time only allowed for higher resolutions with no downscale, but would be changed to allow 1080p rendering in later SDK's.

Devs are not going to be restricted to rendering in high resolutions versus 1080p and huge amounts of AA or smoothing over GPU bound scenarios.

 

[Celcius]

I'm waaay more excited about this than I thought I would be.

=]

Same here. I still don't have a PS4 but wouldn't mind jumping in now for FFXV and GT Sport.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Don't get so excited, most of them (atleast on NEO, no idea on scorpio) are going to be upports anyway. Its just the easiest way to give everybody a quality experience, most especially the 40 million userbase already lined up.

NEO is still a niche device that won't be considered anything more than a more powerful PS4, thus no push to take extra advantage of it outside of res, FPS and a few small graphical extras.

Fluctuating 30/60 = solid 30/60 and 1080p minimum at all times is the base expectation you should have.

Jesus your agenda is so clear. I imagine you will be close to a meltdown if what you are desperately hoping for doesn't happen. Just buy a Neo and you can relax and stop hating. For someone that has no interest in it you sure love talking about underwhelming it will be.

 

[gamerMan]

I really don't care about NEO. I am sure Sony will cook up a demo that is not possible on the hardware and tell us it is running in real time on a NEO. I don't care. Sony has disappointed me so many times with so many false promises. The only thing that would make me get a NEO is to see the Uncharted e3 2014 trailer actually running in realtime on the NEO at 1080P 60FPS with the same level of anti aliasing as the demo. To prove it, I want to see them pause it and move the camera around. Anything else would be a disappointment NEO-wise.

I do want to see more of SpiderMan and Horizon Dawn.

 

[specdot]

The real question for me is to get rid of the Destiny TTK LE PS4 or the UC4 LE PS4. I wonder if it will be a similar form factor....

As sexy as the Destiny TTK LE PS4 is, I would sell that one. I'm sure Sony and Bungo/Activision have a bunduru in the works for Destiny 2 next year.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

I really don't care about NEO. I am sure Sony will cook up a demo that is not possible on the hardware and tell us it is running in real time on a NEO. I don't care. Sony has disappointed me so many times with so many false promises. The only thing that would make me get a NEO is to see the Uncharted e3 2014 trailer actually running in realtime on the NEO at 1080P 60FPS with the same level of anti aliasing as the demo. To prove it, I want to see them pause it and move the camera around. Anything else would be a disappointment NEO-wise.

I do want to see more of SpiderMan and Horizon Dawn.

I would expect to be Horizon there. It's one of the biggest upcoming games on PS4 and GG is one the best technical studios around so they will want to show it off. Hopefully Neo will eliminate the extreme foliage pop-in we saw in the E3 demo. It might a bit early for more Spider-Man.

 

[Obliterator]

I really hope the majority of devs are focusing on just offering graphics and fps improvements over going resolutions higher than 1080p

I need BF1 and FFXV to look and perform awesome on this bad boy

 

[Trago]

I really hope the majority of devs are focusing on just offering graphics and fps improvements over going resolutions higher than 1080p

I need BF1 and FFXV to look and perform awesome on this bad boy

I'd be down for a NEO version of FFXV.

 

[Boke1879]

I'd be down for a NEO version of FFXV.

In the case of FFXV just a stable framerate and better image quality. That's literally it.

 

[Elios83]

Uh, every game is not expected to be 1800p minimum, that's crazy talk. Sony have said that at launch, the only requirement will be that games are 1080p minimum and the FPS doesn't run worse than OG PS4.

You might be confused with the PDF stating that the NEO mode SDK at the time only allowed for higher resolutions with no downscale, but would be changed to allow 1080p rendering in later SDK's.

Devs are not going to be restricted to rendering in high resolutions versus 1080p and huge amounts of AA or smoothing over GPU bound scenarios.

His view about games being close to native 4K seems to be over optimistic, but yours is clearly wayyy pessimistic and irrealistic in the opposite sense.
Most PS4 games are already running at 1080p.
And with 2.3 times (at least if they're not upclocking it) the GPU power, 50% added CPU power and extra bandwidth, plus HDR support, improvements will be really noticeable. Sony is sending the message that for them even 1400p would be disappointing and they'd like developers to use smarter solutions.
So expecting 1080p with more stable frame rate as the common scenario is not realistic.
Even the Xbox One S with a 100 Megaflops upgrade can produce better frame rate in a few games
I'm sure they're bringing convincing arguments on September 7th with a few first party games like Horizon and the inevitable Uncharted 4 patch.

 

[neurosyphilis]

I really don't care about NEO. I am sure Sony will cook up a demo that is not possible on the hardware and tell us it is running in real time on a NEO. I don't care. Sony has disappointed me so many times with so many false promises. The only thing that would make me get a NEO is to see the Uncharted e3 2014 trailer actually running in realtime on the NEO at 1080P 60FPS with the same level of anti aliasing as the demo. To prove it, I want to see them pause it and move the camera around. Anything else would be a disappointment NEO-wise.

I do want to see more of SpiderMan and Horizon Dawn.

So you're one of those people. Get over it already damn Lol. And we all want to see more Horizon and Spider-Man, as they look awesome as hell.

-d0hv

 

[Celcius]

You know what would be amazing?

Sony: "We know you were all expected an upgraded Playstation 4, called the PS4 Neo."

Fans: "Yes!! Shut up and take our money!"

Sony: "Unfortunately that is not what we are here to announce today. The existing PS4 is still selling incredibly well and we expect it to continue doing so throughout the holiday season."

*Fans start looking nervous*

Sony: "As always, we believe in a long-term strategy. However, to add some excitement to the Playstation brand we're adding 2 new colors to the PS4 lineup - full glossy black and semi-gloss black."

*Fans get ready to riot*

Sony: "Just kidding haha, we wouldn't do that to you. We're now going to SKIP the PS4 Neo and go straight to Playstation 5, available NOW!

*Video plays with eye melting graphics*

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