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[cpp_is_king]

Ignore him. He is just voting for Trump because of idiotic reasons.

Obviously, anyone who is anti trump would think the reasons are idiotic, no matter what those reasons were

 

[DrForester]

Yeah, I can't think of any reason to vote for Trump that's not idiotic...

 

[MoeDabs]

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Thought this was funny.

 

[4Tran]

It was a pretty intense rally. He was insulting the people there and the people of CT quite a bit towards the end. Condemning them for electing Malloy and Murphy(?). He went on a bit of a rant about Malloy and at one point, people stopped cheering.

Regardless of what the approval ratings of these guys are, you can't go into a deeply blue state, bash everyone, and expect to get their vote.

It was quite a spectacle.

But that's been Trump's shtick all along. Everywhere he goes, he harps on how terrible things are and how he's the one with the solution to making everything great again.

 

[Veelk]

Obviously, anyone who is anti trump would think the reasons are idiotic, no matter what those reasons were

Because there are no intelligent reasons to vote for trump. No matter what reasonable logical framework you use, it doesn't play out in his favor. There is no single matter on which he hasn't been proven incompetent as a president.

The only alternative to vote for him is the "I'm a dipshit" reason. Because crashing and burning a political system you have little understanding of that you think a dictatorship is the better option, apparently. The fact that literally billions will suffer because you want to ironically support a fascist that will probably start WW3 the moment he perceives a national leader insulting him is something that either doesn't register with you or you honestly don't care. But even THAT would be idiotic, because a Trump presidency would wreak havok on virtually everyone. Not just democrats, not just republicans, not just America. The entire world.

You would literally have to be an amoral, Joker-esque sociopath that doesn't care about anyone's wellbeing, not even your own, to logically support Trump.

 

[TheOMan]

Obviously, anyone who is anti trump would think the reasons are idiotic, no matter what those reasons were

So...what are your reasons then?

 

[shinra-bansho]

Yeah, I can't think of any reason to vote for Trump that's not idiotic...

Not sure what you mean.

Build that wall. Trump that bitch. Citizens United Not Timid. Fuck that n*****. Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Ban those terrorist browns. Rapists and murderers. <3 Putin, pay up NATO. Founded ISIS. Shoot her. He's very smart. He watches the shows. And gets advice from himself in his head. The best deals. China China China China.

How is that idiotic? Seems legit.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

Yeah, I can't think of any reason to vote for Trump that's not idiotic...

If some non-idiotic reasons exist, they're malicious reasons.

 

[Maxim726X]

If some non-idiotic reasons exist, they're malicious reasons.

You're wealthy and want lower taxes.

So, like, most Republicans.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Obviously, anyone who is anti trump would think the reasons are idiotic, no matter what those reasons were

Yeah man, voting for the lulz is your god given right as a free American.

 

[riotous]

You're wealthy and want lower taxes.

So, like, most Republicans.

More like you aren't wealthy and don't pay much in taxes but have been brainwashed to think tax breaks would really benefit you, like most republicans.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Obviously, anyone who is anti trump would think the reasons are idiotic, no matter what those reasons were

the only reason i could see someone voting for trump is if they were ultra rich and don't really give a flying fuck about minorities or have any type of moral compass.

there are no other valid reasons except "i'm super rich and want to keep more of my money"

 

[n0razi]

I for one thank Donald for outing all the closet shitty people in America. Never knew so many of our friends and family were complete shitheads until Donald came along and gave them a voice.

 

[Cyrano]

the only reason i could see someone voting for trump is if they were ultra rich and don't really give a flying fuck about minorities or have any type of moral compass.

there are no other valid reasons except "i'm super rich and want to keep more of my money"

The more common reason is, "I'm racist and want a president who will try to justify my racism."

 

[itschris]

How's this for a reason to support Trump?

A 20-year-old Arab student from Missouri says he backs Trump because he’s flipped US politics. “If he doesn’t win, his ego and legacy will still dominate American politics. He has basically set the tone for the coming century in which an isolated authoritarian state could be a very real prospect for our country,” he said.

 

[Erevador]

You're wealthy and want lower taxes.

So, like, most Republicans.

Gary Johnson is actually the most conservative candidate on taxes. He's a chronic tax cutter. Trump is idealogically all over the place, to the point that fiscal conservatives shouldn't even know where he is on their key issues. He's not a conservative. He picks policy positions like a game of mad libs.

 

[jellies_two]

the only reason i could see someone voting for trump is if they were ultra rich and don't really give a flying fuck about minorities or have any type of moral compass.

there are no other valid reasons except "i'm super rich and want to keep more of my money"

#Not all ultra rich The Koch guy or brothers or whatever could not bring himself to set up a super pac for trump, because of the toxic stuff he was saying. but clearly that hasn't given much of a pause to similar Texas billionaires. They are prepared to trade everything and anything away for a promise to shrink federal regulation.

 

[Maxim726X]

Gary Johnson is actually the most conservative candidate on taxes. He's a chronic tax cutter. Trump is idealogically all over the place, to the point that fiscal conservatives shouldn't even know where he is on their key issues. He's not a conservative. He picks policy positions like a game of mad libs.

No argument. But the tax plan he's proposed is far more friendly to higher earners.

 

[Stinkles]

He's being sarcastic. Ok, maybe not that sarcastic. You're a failed poster. Very low ratings.

Sad!

 

[sphagnum]

How's this for a reason to support Trump?

And that's a....good thing....?

What a weird answer.

 

[Burt]

I hope that after all this we get a Roast of Donald Trump 2.0

Except instead of Donald Trump they just sit an extremely well-trained orangutan in the roast chair

And then they spend the entire evening making incredibly mean and distasteful jokes about how the orangutan is better than Trump in every way

 

[cpp_is_king]

the only reason i could see someone voting for trump is if they were ultra rich and don't really give a flying fuck about minorities or have any type of moral compass.

there are no other valid reasons except "i'm super rich and want to keep more of my money"

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

 

[ExplodingKetchup]

You heard it here first, folks. Supreme Court justices have a 'negligible' effect!

 

[JeTmAn81]

Some people are justifying their Trump votes by pegging all their hopes on conservative Supreme Court justice appointments and crossing their fingers he doesn't do anything crazy. SCOTUS is a single issue vote for certain people.

 

[BlastProcessing]

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

But your vote doesn't say that. It says, I support a White Nationalist candidate. In politics there are no lessons learned, only precedents set. You really need to take a step back and think about just who, exactly, you are saying fuck you to, because it ain't the government.

 

[Stinkles]

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible

You should be forced to explain this to a six year old orphaned from his gay parents because of one supreme court judge.

Or an illiterate Pakistani 12 year old waterboarded for lying for his dad.


Or look at your fucking 401k, you thuddingly dense blatherskite.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

so you would put many peoples lives in danger because you feel government has "lost its way"?

do you understand that trump winning would not only be disastrous for the country short term, but also long term? Trump becoming president wouldn't be a wakeup call to "get their shit together", it would simply empower racists/bigots even more. the supreme court would be fucked for decades. the economy (in the US and the world) would be in much worse shape. the list goes on as to why this would be god awful.

no offense but your reasoning for voting for trump is embarrassing and it is people like you that make for a good argument that we shouldn't have an open democracy with each citizen having an equal vote in national matters

 

[cpp_is_king]

You should be forced to explain this to a six year old orphaned from his gay parents because of one supreme court judge.

Or an illiterate Pakistani 12 year old waterboarded for lying for his dad.


Or look at your fucking 401k, you thuddingly dense blatherskite.

Blah blah blah

 

[EatinOlives]

The only logical explanation here is that he decided to do his own thing (saying outrageous things and owning the media cycle) because it worked in the primaries and now after the falling poll numbers he's "exhausted, frustrated and bewildered" that it's not working out. I am sure plenty of people would have given him some good advice but he chose to reject it. He simply doesn't know what is required for a GE campaign, but then again you don't need to be an Einstein to know you have to behave like a decent human being to attract independents and new voters. He's already blaming biased media who are just reporting the things he said and is already talking about "rigging". You know after the convention bounce he got a few weeks ago, I was kinda worried that he may pivot and Hillary might be in serious trouble due the hacks but the meltdown has been glorious. I can't wait for the debates.

What a shockingly bad candidate the GOP have nominated.

The day he announced his candidacy and said his Mexicans are rapists bullshit I, along with tons of other people, called he was gonna be one of those 2%-in-the-polls then drop within weeks candidates. He had absolutely none of the qualities that made up of a candidate even remotely fit to the president. The idea of this man as the GOP nominee sounded patently absurd.

The only thing surprising was how fast and by how much he rose in the polls. But he remained absurd. He remained completely unqualified. I was fearful later on that he was gonna be able to manipulate the general public the way he manipulated the GOP. But he remains every bit as stupid as the day he waddled down the Trump Tower lobby to announce his candidacy. It's just that instead of the disaster happening quickly during the primaries, it has been protracted through to the general election. This is the effect of what happens when a 100% unqualified candidate is given the reins of the party for one election season. Every bit as catastrophic as you think it might be, it actually is. What's crazy is that the primaries felt detached from reality. They were completely baffling by anyone who wanted to apply logic to the situation. And, in a 180-degree turn, the minute he became the nominee was the minute that reality turned back on. Suddenly the catastrophe that was somehow staying together blew up in its entirety.

The thing I can discern from the Republican party is their feeling of "this was not supposed to happen". But maybe it did. This kind of cancerous side of the American culture needs to be drawn out in order to be excised. Maybe the Republicans actually DO need to see the cartoonish most cynical version of the two-faced bullshit they call their ideology in order for them to see where it goes wrong. Maybe the dirty racist, bigoted, xenophobic underbelly of the US needs to feel empowered for a few months in order for everyone else to realize the extent of this mentality and to fight back against this putrid behavior. It feels simultaneously the darkest and the brightest timeline.

 

[Opto]

Yeah, I can't think of any reason to vote for Drumpf that's not idiotic...

Maybe they got a strain of cordyceps that makes you commit self destructive acts?
Trump's friend Putin holds your family at gunpoint if you don't vote for him?
You know which markets will plunge after the election so you shortsell some stock?

 

[lenovox1]

Blah blah blah

What? You don't think the imapacts of the markets crashing, torture being deemed acceptable and reinstated, and his Supreme Cout picks all don't have long term implications. Those are all things he has a direct hand and direct control over.

 

[xxracerxx]

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

As I said, that sounds idiotic to me.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.


Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

This is the stuff people say when you don't care about:
Arabs
Blacks
Hispanics
Women
Impoverished
Religious Freedom
etc.

and only care about yourself.

To each their own, its your vote and it certainly is a "fuck you". It's a big "fuck you" to your civics teacher as well. Definitely glad you're in California so that's at least a positive.

 

[lenovox1]

As I said, that sounds idiotic to me.

It is idiotic and has been refuted multiple times. Just because one viewpoint is simplistic and idiotic doesn't mean all viewpoints are the same.

 

[GCX]

This election has certainly shown me that people go to insane lengths to justify their vote.

I mean sure, you may think your Trump vote is a protest that showcases how rigged the political system is or how the president doesn't matter at all.

In the end nobody can see the thought process behind your vote. It's simply more support for Donald Trump.

 

[Nelo Ice]

This election has certainly shown me that people go to insane lengths to justify their vote.

I mean sure, you may think your Trump vote is a protest that showcases how rigged the political system is or how the president doesn't matter at all.

In the end nobody can see the thought process behind your vote. It's simply more support for Donald Trump.

Yep. Even though this may be mainly about voting third party but concepts still apply.

Throwing away your vote on a message no one will hear, and which will change no outcome, is sometimes presented as ‘voting your conscience’, but that’s got it exactly backwards; your conscience is what keeps you from doing things that feel good to you but hurt other people. Citizens who vote for third-party candidates, write-in candidates, or nobody aren’t voting their conscience, they are voting their ego, unable to accept that a system they find personally disheartening actually applies to them.

None of this creates an obligation to vote, or to vote for one of the two viable candidates. It is, famously, a free country, and you can vote for anyone you like, or for no one. But if you do, don’t kid yourself&#8202;—&#8202;and certainly don’t try to kid anyone else&#8202;—&#8202;that you are creating some kind of positive political change. Noisily opting out as a way of demonstrating your pique is an understandable human act. It’s just not a political act. It’s an elaborate way of making the rest of us do the work of deciding.

https://medium.com/@cshirky/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-protest-vote-c2fdacabd704#.8aea1nd1t

 

[cpp_is_king]

This is the stuff people say when you don't care about:
Arabs
Blacks
Hispanics
Women
Impoverished
Religious Freedom
etc.

and only care about yourself.

To each their own, its your vote and it certainly is a "fuck you". It's a big "fuck you" to your civics teacher as well. Definitely glad you're in California so that's at least a positive.

Don't worry, from the looks of things it's going to be a landslide across the board, I don't think it matters all that much where i am

It is idiotic and has been refuted multiple times. Just because one viewpoint is simplistic and idiotic doesn't mean all viewpoints are the same.

Kinda hard to "refute" someone's opinion with your own opinion.

 

[Spiritreaver]

But that's been Drumpf's shtick all along. Everywhere he goes, he harps on how terrible things are and how he's the one with the solution to making everything great again.

Absolutely, but I've never seen him insult voters directly until today.

 

[Opto]

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

The belief the GOP will disintegrate from Trump losing is foolhardy. Best case, Republican bosses gain more control of who will win. Worst case, GOP candidates start to more openly court the klan and nazis. America is already a laughing stock to the world. WE have been since Iraq, probably earlier. But being a laughing stock isn't going to change our spot as the top economy with the most powerful military. And if Trump causes a destabilization of either of those, it's going to hurt people. Who you don't give a shit about.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I don't actually want trump to be president. ... Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system.

What? No, voting for him is helping him become president.

 

[Aexact]

Yep. Even though this may be mainly about voting third party but concepts still apply.



https://medium.com/@cshirky/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-protest-vote-c2fdacabd704#.8aea1nd1t

I heard about a similar sentiment earlier on public radio and I thought it was an empathetic way to phrase it.

I once voted for Donald for President. Donald Duck was his full name and I remember how virtuous I felt writing in the uncle of Huey, Dewey and Louie as my choice to lead the country. I was very young and like many of my generation, I believed the refusal to vote for an establishment candidate was a statement of great significance. If he and his cronies wouldn’t include on the ballot the poet and freethinker who was my favored candidate, then I would show them!

Well, Donald Duck didn’t win, nor did the establishment candidate I had so righteously stood up to. What I got instead were six years of a President who continued an unwinnable war and sanctioned a criminal break-in to his opposition party’s headquarters. The latter eventually forced his resignation, bringing humiliation not only to him, but to the entire country. In my small way, I had contributed to this shared disgrace. By refusing to vote for my party’s candidate, an experienced man with good credentials who I viewed at the time as a hack, I helped bring America to its knees.

[...]

I understand the struggle some voters face having to choose between two major candidates. No one wants to vote for someone who doesn’t touch their deepest hopes. There is a great temptation to write someone in, vote for a candidate who can’t win, or not vote at all. Having done this once, I would not do it again without being fully willing to accept the consequences.

https://ww2.kqed.org/perspectives/2016/08/10/when-i-voted-for-donald-duck/

 

[CertifiedFP]

Uh oh... Anyone want to make a thread on this for me?

"Pat Buchanan: If Trump Loses, There Could Be A Revolution"

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-buchanan-if-trump-loses-there-could-be-revolution

Anyone think Trump could be held legally/criminally accountable for any violence that occurs in his name considering all the inciting he's done?

 

[Monocle]

Blah blah blah

Yeah who needs empathy anyway?

 

[cpp_is_king]

The belief the GOP will disintegrate from Trump losing is foolhardy. Best case, Republican bosses gain more control of who will win. Worst case, GOP candidates start to more openly court the klan and nazis. America is already a laughing stock to the world. WE have been since Iraq, probably earlier. But being a laughing stock isn't going to change our spot as the top economy with the most powerful military. And if Trump causes a destabilization of either of those, it's going to hurt people. Who you don't give a shit about.

I don't think that's the best case at all. Trump has already made it clear that people want something different. I don't think it will just be back to business as usual for the gop after this election. But then again who knows (aside from everyone on the internet except me obviously, since everyone's a goddam oracle apparently).

Your worst case also seems far fetched. Trump losing as badly as it seems he's going to is certainly not going to convince for people to use the same platform trump is employing. Different than before? Yes. Same as Trump? No.

 

[Cranster]

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

Bullshit, if you didn't want him to win you wouldn't be voting for him. It would not surprise me if you were a closet racist.

 

[Burt]

Uh oh... Anyone want to make a thread on this for me?

"Pat Buchanan: If Trump Loses, There Could Be A Revolution"

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-buchanan-if-trump-loses-there-could-be-revolution

Anyone think Trump could be held legally/criminally accountable for any violence that occurs in his name considering all the inciting he's done?

Nah. The one truth of all the bullshit that Trump spews is that he is pretty rich, and so the likelihood of him ever getting pegged for something as amorphous as inciting morons with a wink and a nod is essentially zero.

Going down this tangent, the odds of any substantial violence at all are pretty much zero. But, I do worry about him tying things up in court and raising the bullshit bar of governance another notch by delegitimizing presidential succession and enabling future candidates to take results to court every single time.

 

[Karsticles]

Not sure what you mean.

Build that wall. Trump that bitch. Citizens United Not Timid. Fuck that n*****. Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Ban those terrorist browns. Rapists and murderers. <3 Putin, pay up NATO. Founded ISIS. Shoot her. He's very smart. He watches the shows. And gets advice from himself in his head. The best deals. China China China China.

How is that idiotic? Seems legit.

"Gets advice from himself in his head" is the best thing I've heard all week.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Bullshit, if you didn't want him to win you wouldn't be voting for him.

Thanks for seeing into my soul over the internet and reading my innermost thoughts, you should open a palm reading business out of your house and put a flashing neon sign in your window

 

[Monocle]

I don't actually want trump to be president. I think he's a blowhard. Voting for him is my way of expressing my dissatisfaction with the entire political system. It's my way of saying that I don't think the president even matters, because the problems run too deep for one person to make that much of a difference, even if that one person is the president.

Maybe he makes things worse, but relative to how much of a farce the whole thing already is, it's negligible. Just like whatever good Clinton might do will also be negligible.

If he wins, we look like morons to the rest of the world. Short term loss, but maybe we actually need to be beaten down, dethroned as the worlds superpower, or whatever for the government to take a hard look at what matters and get their shit together.

And if he loses, he brings the republican party down with him and that whole shitfest they call the GOP can disappear into the ashes.

Win win for me, and plus i live in California where my vote literally doesn't even matter, so it's more of just a fuck you on a personal level to a government that I feel has lost its way

Protip: your reasoning is broken. Supporting Trump doesn't register dissatisfaction with the political system, it just supports Trump. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. That's literally the only effect: supporting someone who wants to strip away the rights of millions, torture people, order war crimes, and stack the Supreme Court with conservatives who will make disgusting and inhuman rulings against people who are already marginalized. What is wrong with you? You're not sending a message by pouring gasoline on the arsonist's fire.

 

[GCX]

Thanks for seeing into my soul over the internet and reading my innermost thoughts, you should open a palm reading business out of your house and put a flashing neon sign in your window

Well, that's the problem. No one but you can see into your soul so your Trump vote will be seen as any other Trump vote, no matter how much protest or irony you think it might contain.