They have amazing material to work from, why don't they use it?
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why doesn't WB just create their own studio for DC movies like disney did with marvel
2% better than BvS!Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 6m6 minutes ago
#SuicideSquad crashes 67% in 2nd wknd to $43.8M, but still holds #1 spot. $222.9M cume.
2% better than BvS!
Really? I thought it wasn't very good, honestly.
Look at all the qualities that define the Joker.
He's fun, but Leto wasn't really having much fun. He just looked like a teenager rebelling against his father, which is amazing because Leto is 10 years older than Ledger ever got to be.
He's crazy, obviously, and has been played as crazy in both a scary way and a silly way. But either way, Leto's interpretation of this was just to make as many Joker-sounding grunts and growls in the hopes that it would stick. The Joker is an over the top person, but even with all the mannerisms, Ledger still comes off as a person.
The Joker has presence. He doesn't play second fiddle. Think of a cartoon, movie, or video game in which The Joker didn't dominate every scene he was in. He makes Batman shut up until the fighting is done. Not only did Harley Quinn make him look like a lovesick boy, but his own presence was lacking. I never saw Leto on screen and thought "That guy's really in charge."
Leto's worst crime of all isn't that he's just bad, but that he turns the most dangerous person in Gotham City, a madman who blows up hospitals, robs banks, and inflicts unthinkable acts of violence into a boy whose greatest aspiration is to pick up his girlfriend.
And even his mannerisms, which can certainly make for an entertaining performance are off. I kept thinking "No, your voice should have been lower or higher." or "No, that laugh should have sounded different."
The Joker can be many things, but he's not small and don't give me the script excuse. Even one scene of Ledger's joker was enough to establish his dominance over the screen.
You make it a tad silly, of course.As someone who doesn't read comics I find every one of those characters outside of Batman to be laughably silly. Not sure how they can build a cinematic universe around them.
disney bought marvel corp. i guess that included marvel studios. WB already owned dc by the time they were churning movies, but i'm saying for them to be in a similar situation, why don't they make DC its own studio?Disney bought Marvel Studios, who were already making successful and well liked movies based on super hero properties they had already established a vision for.
I'm sure WB would love to be in a similar situation.
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Thats unfortunate. DC/WB needs to really rethink their strategy of letting Snyder guide their world, and maybe even think about just junking it all after Wonder Woman and restarting with proper talent.
What would a live action lego movie even be?
MOS made 600 plus worldwide. BvS made 800 million plus worldwide. SS made 300 million worldwide in a week. Most studios would love to fail that much.
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As someone who doesn't read comics I find every one of those characters outside of Batman to be laughably silly. Not sure how they can build a cinematic universe around them.
Hey, I hated Thor 2 before it was a thing. Terrible film. Just like MOS.
Ironman 3 made over a 1.2 billion dollars
A movie that has Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman had to claw to 800 million
Want to know the biggest complaint I've read about suicide squad? It's "where was Batman, flash, wonder woman?" They say that the movie should have explained why they weren't there. Well those same people give every MCU solo movie a pass. They never ask where the other heroes are and don't complain. That the movie doesn't tell them why they're not helping. Double standards.
disney bought marvel corp. i guess that included marvel studios. WB already owned dc by the time they were churning movies, but i'm saying for them to be in a similar situation, why don't they make DC its own studio?
As someone who doesn't read comics I find every one of those characters outside of Batman to be laughably silly. Not sure how they can build a cinematic universe around them.
I love what WB/DC is doing with their movies. I liked Man of Steel. Loved BvS. Liked SS. I honestly don't know why everyone wants a carbon copy of the MCU just with DC characters. I'm so sick of the generic identical looking and feeling MCU movies that have terrible writing, a one liner every minute, and terrible villains. I've skipped the last 3 at the theatre because I know exactly what to expect.
A little variety is a good thing. Instead of crucifying the DCEU for being different, how about giving it a chance? So many people have this knee-jerk reaction to them because it's not the MCU and they tell themselves they're giving it a fair chance but you're really not. You go in wanting to hate it and you leave haying it and picking it apart for things you gave a free pass to in the MCU.
Want to know the biggest complaint I've read about suicide squad? It's "where was Batman, flash, wonder woman?" They say that the movie should have explained why they weren't there. Well those same people give every MCU solo movie a pass. They never ask where the other heroes are and don't complain. That the movie doesn't tell them why they're not helping. Double standards.
no one wants a carbon copy of the MCU. they just want good moviesI love what WB/DC is doing with their movies. I liked Man of Steel. Loved BvS. Liked SS. I honestly don't know why everyone wants a carbon copy of the MCU just with DC characters. I'm so sick of the generic identical looking and feeling MCU movies that have terrible writing, a one liner every minute, and terrible villains. I've skipped the last 3 at the theatre because I know exactly what to expect.
A little variety is a good thing. Instead of crucifying the DCEU for being different, how about giving it a chance? So many people have this knee-jerk reaction to them because it's not the MCU and they tell themselves they're giving it a fair chance but you're really not. You go in wanting to hate it and you leave haying it and picking it apart for things you gave a free pass to in the MCU.
Want to know the biggest complaint I've read about suicide squad? It's "where was Batman, flash, wonder woman?" They say that the movie should have explained why they weren't there. Well those same people give every MCU solo movie a pass. They never ask where the other heroes are and don't complain. That the movie doesn't tell them why they're not helping. Double standards.
They aren't doing anything different or ridiculously creative, they're just making bad movies. They got my money three times for their bullshit and won't be given anymore until they decide that they want to make something goodI love what WB/DC is doing with their movies. I liked Man of Steel. Loved BvS. Liked SS. I honestly don't know why everyone wants a carbon copy of the MCU just with DC characters. I'm so sick of the generic identical looking and feeling MCU movies that have terrible writing, a one liner every minute, and terrible villains. I've skipped the last 3 at the theatre because I know exactly what to expect.
A little variety is a good thing. Instead of crucifying the DCEU for being different, how about giving it a chance? So many people have this knee-jerk reaction to them because it's not the MCU and they tell themselves they're giving it a fair chance but you're really not. You go in wanting to hate it and you leave haying it and picking it apart for things you gave a free pass to in the MCU.
1. I have no idea what you're reading where that's the biggest complaint over the lack of a cohesive scriptWant to know the biggest complaint I've read about suicide squad? It's "where was Batman, flash, wonder woman?" They say that the movie should have explained why they weren't there. Well those same people give every MCU solo movie a pass. They never ask where the other heroes are and don't complain. That the movie doesn't tell them why they're not helping. Double standards.
My only surprise in this entire thread was that Watchmen bombed that badly.
A little variety is a good thing. Instead of crucifying the DCEU for being different, how about giving it a chance? So many people have this knee-jerk reaction to them because it's not the MCU and they tell themselves they're giving it a fair chance but you're really not. You go in wanting to hate it and you leave haying it and picking it apart for things you gave a free pass to in the MCU.
Want to know the biggest complaint I've read about suicide squad? It's "where was Batman, flash, wonder woman?" They say that the movie should have explained why they weren't there. Well those same people give every MCU solo movie a pass. They never ask where the other heroes are and don't complain. That the movie doesn't tell them why they're not helping. Double standards.
I love what WB/DC is doing with their movies. I liked Man of Steel. Loved BvS. Liked SS. I honestly don't know why everyone wants a carbon copy of the MCU just with DC characters. I'm so sick of the generic identical looking and feeling MCU movies that have terrible writing, a one liner every minute, and terrible villains. I've skipped the last 3 at the theatre because I know exactly what to expect.
A little variety is a good thing. Instead of crucifying the DCEU for being different, how about giving it a chance? So many people have this knee-jerk reaction to them because it's not the MCU and they tell themselves they're giving it a fair chance but you're really not. You go in wanting to hate it and you leave haying it and picking it apart for things you gave a free pass to in the MCU.
Want to know the biggest complaint I've read about suicide squad? It's "where was Batman, flash, wonder woman?" They say that the movie should have explained why they weren't there. Well those same people give every MCU solo movie a pass. They never ask where the other heroes are and don't complain. That the movie doesn't tell them why they're not helping. Double standards.
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jmood88 said:2. Every MCU movie that has taken place after the first Avengers has had people questioning why the other Avengers didn't show up to help, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
As someone who doesn't read comics I find every one of those characters outside of Batman to be laughably silly. Not sure how they can build a cinematic universe around them.
God man, your hate for her. Never change. lol.Only laughable person there is Carol
God man, your hate for her. Never change. lol.
Only laughable person there is Carol
I love this running gag.Only laughable person there is Carol