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[DontBeThatGuy]

lmao what are you people on about her hair for. it's hair, it does not matter. it's never mattered.

You should know by now. Strict adherence, like a bible.

 

[ThisGuy]

I don't think white men are gonna hate this lol. I mean, can a dick be racist?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

lmao what are you people on about her hair for. it's hair, it does not matter. it's never mattered.

I'm not one to get in a huff about comicbook accuracy but Mary Jane being a redhead is her most famous feature.

 

[Busaiku]

That's cool, just hope she's not as horrible as Ms. Dunst.

 

[KingV]

I get the feeling there will be more people expecting people to get mad than actual people that are mad

We are now at the point where people get outraged before there is anything to be outraged about.

That said, MJ is basically now a minor character in Spider-Man, they have been One More Dayed for a very long time.

 

[Ahasverus]

They already had a Peter Parker loved one die so he learns that great power must also come great responsibility, and the personal sacrifices that come with being Spider-Man.

It had happen in Amazing Fantasy #15 (August 1962).

That's the point. Gwen Stacy was supposed to show that shit still happens, no matter how good you are, and especially, that you can lose more than one person. It made Peter reluctant to start a relationship, and after all he did and got married and stuff was because he, has a character, grew confident enough to accept the past and look forward. It's actually one of my favorite development in comics, but Disney don't care and it seems that neither do you. Whatever, I'm in for High School Musical with powers anyways.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

lmao what are you people on about her hair for. it's hair, it does not matter. it's never mattered.

Because it's a defining trait of the character? At this point they don't even need to use MJ. They could have made a new character.

If you were to ask a comic book fan to detail MJ the list would probably go:

- Parkers love interest
- Red hair
- Model

 

[Obliterator]

They really should make her dye her hair. Red hair is MJ's defining physical trait.

And like I said black women can look great with red hair. Rihanna looks dope when she goes red

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I'm not one to get in a huff about comicbook accuracy but Mary Jane being a redhead is her most famous feature.

If hair is the most important part of a character that's pretty sad.

Because it's a defining trait of the character? At this point they don't even need to use MJ. They could have made a new character.

It's protein! Thats not a defining trait of anything!

 

[richiek]

That's the point. Gwen Stacy was supposed to show that shit still happens, no matter how good you are, and especially, that you can lose more than one person. It made Peter reluctant to start a relationship, and after all he did and got married and stuff was because he, has a character, grew confident enough to accept the past and look forward. It's actually one of my favorite development in comics, but Disney don't care. It seems that neither do you. Whatever.

Sam Raimi didn't care either.

 

[Sanjuro]

You should know by now. Strict adherence, like a bible.

This is just the beginning. What next? White shit on Spidey's outfit?

 

[Busaiku]

That's the point. Gwen Stacy was supposed to show that shit still happens, no matter how good you are, and especially, that you can lose more than one person. It made Peter reluctant to start a relationship, and after all he did and got married and stuff was because he, has a character, grew confident enough to accept the past and look forward. It's actually one of my favorite development in comics, but Disney don't care and it seems that neither do you. Whatever, I'm in for High School Musical with powers anyways.

And Ultimate Spider-Man did it just fine.
Gwen wasn't even around for like 20 issues.

 

[Zombine]

This girl is Mary Jane. She's stunningly beautiful. I think it would be fucking doooooope if they did a red ombré with her hair.

 

[plainr_]

I dig it. She also doesn't need red hair.

 

[Manmademan]

We are now at the point where people get outraged before there is anything to be outraged about.

That said, MJ is basically now a minor character in Spider-Man, they have been One More Dayed for a very long time.

you gotta keep up with the times, son

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

This is just the beginning. What next? White shit on Spidey's outfit?

People would riot.

 

[Anbokr]

lmao what are you people on about her hair for. it's hair, it does not matter. it's never mattered.

I don't know man, seeing superman run around with blonde hair and brown eyes just wouldn't be the same. MJ's has always been iconically red, it's pretty much synonymous with the character (until now I guess?). Hoping we get red hair dye at some point, maybe a second film.

 

[Evil's Bane]

Shocking, but I'm fine with it. I just didn't think they'd go this route for Mary Jane. Having red hair is like the sole notable trait she has

Maybe she'll dye it at some point in the movie. That'd be a fun callback.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

And like I said black women can look great with red hair. Rihanna looks dope when she goes red

I never said they shouldn't have hired a black girl. I just said they should make her dye her hair red.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Nice! I saw this coming.

 

[VAD]

I don't know who this is but whatever, MJ's back and that's what counts. I would love if they rehired Emma Stone as an older alternate-universe Spider-Gwen that would be a mentor to Pete (0 chance this happens though).

 

[icespide]

That's the point. Gwen Stacy was supposed to show that shit still happens, no matter how good you are, and especially, that you can lose more than one person. It made Peter reluctant to start a relationship, and after all he did and got married and stuff was because he, has a character, grew confident enough to accept the past and look forward. It's actually one of my favorite development in comics, but Disney don't care and it seems that neither do you. Whatever, I'm in for High School Musical with powers anyways.

that's cool an all for that particular thread of spider-man stories. there is absolutely no reason why these movies have to be super faithful to them. it's possible to tell new stories.

hell MJ could be a villain, or they could kill MJ, or maybe Peter Parker in fact likes guys in these movies. it literally doesn't matter as long as they tell a good compelling story

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I don't know man, seeing superman run around with blonde hair and brown eyes just wouldn't be the same. MJ's has always been iconically red, it's pretty much synonymous with the character (until now I guess?).

Hair colour means nothing. It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the character.

 

[BrassDragon]

I don't mind the race change, they can do whatever they want with their property. But did anyone else notice it's always the red headed characters?

The West family in The Flash. Jimmy Olsen in Supergirl. And now Mary Jane. Who will be next?

They did turn Matt Murdoch into a brunette, does that count?

Did they reboot Jean Grey yet?

 

[Monocle]

but she's not white

muh canon experience

How can I possibly relate to her now??????

 

[Kevinroc]

I'll wait for a more official word before I take this as fact. But I'm totally fine with casting Zendaya as MJ. And with skipping over Gwen, considering we literally just had two pretty terrible movies about Gwen dying.

 

[Darth Pinche]

This girl is Mary Jane. She's stunningly beautiful. I think it would be fucking doooooope if they did a red ombré with her hair.

Exactly. A key characteristic of the Mary Jane character is that she is way out of Peter's league. Like from a different planet level of beauty compared to Peter. This seems like great casting to me.

 

[Obliterator]

I never said they shouldn't have hired a black girl. I just said they should make her dye her hair red.

.....I never said you did? I'm agreeing with you. I just like the red haired MJ, as someone else said in the thread it would be weird seeing Superman or Batman with blonde hair. Its just basically always black / dark

 

[Zen_Arcade]

If hair is the most important part of a character that's pretty sad.


It's protein! Thats not a defining trait of anything!

Well that's not true at all. You could explain away anyones physical traits that way. That doesn't mean people aren't defined by physical characteristics.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

They can ditch the red hair. Zendaya is someone I could actually believe becoming a model in NYC.

 

[KingV]

you gotta keep up with the times, son

But that was alternate reality nonsense.

Yes I'm still mad about One More Day.

 

[Manmademan]

They did turn Matt Murdoch into a brunette, does that count?

Did they reboot Jean Grey yet?

this one?

But that was alternate reality nonsense.

Yes I'm still mad about One More Day.

It has an ongoing starting this fall.

 

[mckmas8808]

We talking about the girl from the acne treatment commercials? She looks pretty white to me, but maybe has some mixed races in her genes

Nah my man she is black.

 

[harSon]

Hope she puts on her Oakland accent

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

She got 2-3 inches on Tom Holland.

 

[johnsmith]

Did they reboot Jean Grey yet?

Yeah, Sansa Stark

 

[BrassDragon]

this one?

Cheers, I noped out of the Fox stuff.

 

[Anbokr]

Hair colour means nothing. It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the character.

I disagree completely, some characters are iconic or instantly recognizable based on their hair color. Sure, it's not a defining characteristic for all characters, but for some, definitely so. I'd put MJ/Clark Kent in that category (in my personal opinion). Not the most important characteristic or the sole defining, but still an integral part of some characters and their appearance.

 

[Ahasverus]

this one?

It has an ongoing starting this fall.

Ew. Don't remind me. What an insufferable performance.

 

[Conkersbadfurday]

She does them X Out commercials, right?

 

[Currygan]

Who's Zendaya? Some Disney star?

Never heard of her before, but I would bet on it

like that Kotanga or something from a few years back

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Well that's not true at all. You could explain away anyones physical traits that way. That doesn't mean people aren't defined by physical characteristics.

Hair colour does not mean shit to who a person is, how they act, their behaviour, their mentality. Nothing.

I disagree completely, some characters are iconic or instantly recognizable based on their hair color. Sure, it's not a defining characteristic for all characters, but for some, definitely so. I'd put MJ/Clark Kent in that category (in my personal opinion).

Read up. A blond superman is still superman.

 

[ThisGuy]

And like I said black women can look great with red hair. Rihanna looks dope when she goes red

Damn.

 

[Phamit]

They did turn Matt Murdoch into a brunette, does that count?

Did they reboot Jean Grey yet?

They did with Sophie Turner, but the last X-men wasn't much of a success, so there might be chance they do it again

 

[EchoChamber]

I need red hair to form a opinion.

 

[Galang]

YES! Great choice!!

 

[Discotheque]

cool. cue the nerd rage.

 

[Broken Joystick]

This girl is Mary Jane. She's stunningly beautiful. I think it would be fucking doooooope if they did a red ombré with her hair.

woah

 

[Pai Pai Master]

hey that's cool

 

[Zen_Arcade]

.....I never said you did? I'm agreeing with you. I just like the red haired MJ, as someone else said in the thread it would be weird seeing Superman or Batman with blonde hair. Its just basically always black / dark

Oh, my bad.

Yeah, I think this Zendaya girl would look good with red hair too. I don't know anything about her acting skills though.

Hair colour does not mean shit to who a person is, how they act, their behaviour, their mentality. Nothing.


Read up. A blond superman is still superman.

And if we lived in a world where people were only recoginzed by their behavior, you might have a point here. Character design is, has been, and always will be an important part of developing a character.