Gordon Shumway
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Next he'll tell black people how the immigrants are stealing black jobs. Then white folks how the thug combo are robbing them of their tax dollars on welfare and Obamacare. The perfect circle..
Trump to introduce immigration plan. Campaign denies path to citizenship
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Next he'll tell black people how the immigrants are stealing black jobs. Then white folks how the thug combo are robbing them of their tax dollars on welfare and Obamacare. The perfect circle..
DrForester
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She will. She's probably held off because he was doing such a fine job burying himself. Now that the "pivot" is real, she'll have to attack.
My impression as well.
"Sir we need the Latino vote, do something!"
"I'll just tell these Mexican guys something about amnesty, not like congress will approve it anyway"
"Brilliant sir!"
"I know. Plus we might get the stupid ones to actually come forward!"
"America will be great again sir!"
20cent
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The Hillary Clinton supporters?
I don't remember the last time Hillary Clinton flip flopped on an issue in a week.
Ether_Snake
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It was always the wall he said was important when asked about how they would deport everyone. This won't make him lose any votes.
Bam Bam Baklava
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And ran his first ads talking about immigrants coming over here wanting to kill and rape everybody.
ignorance is bliss
Hickbilly Deluxe
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Depends on what the path is. If it was something like 'Stay out of trouble, pay your way through school at 18 or serve for four years and you're in but one strike and you're out' kinda deal I could see a lot of Trump supporters getting behind it.
water_wendi
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It just dawned on me that Scott Pakins complaint generator would be perfect for Trump.
edit: added entire three paragraph complaint because it fit so well
"Reading this letter won't be the easiest thing you've ever done, but it may be one of the most rewarding. Perhaps before going on, I should describe Donald Trump to you. Trump is quarrelsome, hotheaded, and sadistic. Furthermore, he yearns to spit on sacred icons. Instead of friends, he has victims and forces who end up as victims. I, speaking as someone who is not a rancorous, lousy caitiff, obviously feel sorry for the lot of them. I also feel that those of us who are still sane, those of us who still have a firm grip on reality, those of us who still contend that the hostility and boredom Trump is experiencing internally is quite evident externally, have an obligation to do more than just observe what Trump is doing from a safe distance. We have an obligation to navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Trump's foul roorbacks and the Charybdis of authoritarianism. We have an obligation to begin the invigorating, rejuvenating process of lending a helping hand. And we have an obligation to express our concerns about his irresponsible, unrealistic endeavors.
I've heard more than one member of Trump's crotchety guild state, “Blowsy eejits aren't ever drugged-out, and therefore, honesty and responsibility have no cash value and are therefore worthless”. In other words (to translate this linguistic mess), Trump has convinced a generation of people that we should cast our lots with ophidian plunderers. One must pause in admiration at this triumph of media manipulation. I find stereotyping annoying. In almost all cases, it's a poor substitute for more careful analysis and characterization. On the other hand, it is marvelously effective at explaining how if Trump doesn't like it here, then perhaps he should go elsewhere. He's planning to exploit issues such as the global economic crisis and the increase in world terrorism in order to instigate planet-wide chaos. Planet-wide chaos is Trump's gateway to global tyranny, which will in turn enable him to make bargains with the devil.
Some of Trump's vicegerents have privately reassured me that Trump isn't as sneaky as he sounds. Rather, they assert, Trump is just playing the cards that he thinks he needs to. I don't buy that excuse. Trump may have started as non-sneaky, but he's now absolutely invested in blaming those who have no power to change the current direction of events. Consider, for example, how Trump accuses me of being wayward whenever I state that the idea of letting him needle and wheedle blasphemous palterers into his club is, in itself, hypocritical. All right, I'll admit that I have a sharp tongue and sometimes write with a bit of a poison pen, but the fact remains that Trump has not yet been successful at driving us into insolvency. Still, give him some time, and I'm sure he'll figure out how to do something at least that unpleasant, probably more so. In any event, one of Trump's thralls once said, “The majority of catty blighters are heroes, if not saints.” Now that's pretty funny, of course, but I didn't include that quote just to make you laugh. I included it to convince you that many of the things that Trump's allies write make absolutely no sense. For example, what do they mean by, “Trump is a moral exemplar?” Maybe reading that sentence backwards reveals a hidden message, or maybe it's simply the case that you may make the comment, “What does this have to do with ignorant stoners?” Well, once you begin to see the light you'll realize that it's scary how effectively Trump has been pigeonholing people into predetermined categories. I deeply regret the loss of life and injuries sustained by this tragedy. I am currently working to understand the surrounding circumstances so as to improve our ability to reveal the nature and activity of Trump's apparatchiks and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. I close this letter along the same lines it opened on: Donald Trump seems to have trouble constructing a grammatically correct sentence."
edit: added entire three paragraph complaint because it fit so well
"Reading this letter won't be the easiest thing you've ever done, but it may be one of the most rewarding. Perhaps before going on, I should describe Donald Trump to you. Trump is quarrelsome, hotheaded, and sadistic. Furthermore, he yearns to spit on sacred icons. Instead of friends, he has victims and forces who end up as victims. I, speaking as someone who is not a rancorous, lousy caitiff, obviously feel sorry for the lot of them. I also feel that those of us who are still sane, those of us who still have a firm grip on reality, those of us who still contend that the hostility and boredom Trump is experiencing internally is quite evident externally, have an obligation to do more than just observe what Trump is doing from a safe distance. We have an obligation to navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Trump's foul roorbacks and the Charybdis of authoritarianism. We have an obligation to begin the invigorating, rejuvenating process of lending a helping hand. And we have an obligation to express our concerns about his irresponsible, unrealistic endeavors.
I've heard more than one member of Trump's crotchety guild state, “Blowsy eejits aren't ever drugged-out, and therefore, honesty and responsibility have no cash value and are therefore worthless”. In other words (to translate this linguistic mess), Trump has convinced a generation of people that we should cast our lots with ophidian plunderers. One must pause in admiration at this triumph of media manipulation. I find stereotyping annoying. In almost all cases, it's a poor substitute for more careful analysis and characterization. On the other hand, it is marvelously effective at explaining how if Trump doesn't like it here, then perhaps he should go elsewhere. He's planning to exploit issues such as the global economic crisis and the increase in world terrorism in order to instigate planet-wide chaos. Planet-wide chaos is Trump's gateway to global tyranny, which will in turn enable him to make bargains with the devil.
Some of Trump's vicegerents have privately reassured me that Trump isn't as sneaky as he sounds. Rather, they assert, Trump is just playing the cards that he thinks he needs to. I don't buy that excuse. Trump may have started as non-sneaky, but he's now absolutely invested in blaming those who have no power to change the current direction of events. Consider, for example, how Trump accuses me of being wayward whenever I state that the idea of letting him needle and wheedle blasphemous palterers into his club is, in itself, hypocritical. All right, I'll admit that I have a sharp tongue and sometimes write with a bit of a poison pen, but the fact remains that Trump has not yet been successful at driving us into insolvency. Still, give him some time, and I'm sure he'll figure out how to do something at least that unpleasant, probably more so. In any event, one of Trump's thralls once said, “The majority of catty blighters are heroes, if not saints.” Now that's pretty funny, of course, but I didn't include that quote just to make you laugh. I included it to convince you that many of the things that Trump's allies write make absolutely no sense. For example, what do they mean by, “Trump is a moral exemplar?” Maybe reading that sentence backwards reveals a hidden message, or maybe it's simply the case that you may make the comment, “What does this have to do with ignorant stoners?” Well, once you begin to see the light you'll realize that it's scary how effectively Trump has been pigeonholing people into predetermined categories. I deeply regret the loss of life and injuries sustained by this tragedy. I am currently working to understand the surrounding circumstances so as to improve our ability to reveal the nature and activity of Trump's apparatchiks and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. I close this letter along the same lines it opened on: Donald Trump seems to have trouble constructing a grammatically correct sentence."
Rocket Scientist
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I think he waited long enough with pivoting that the extreme supporters will manage to rationalize it and still support him. Of course it will backfire with a small portion of the extreme vote, but they have no one else to go to anyway and they are probably betting on moderates to come back to the republican party with these kinds of plans. I might be wrong of course and it might completely backfire, but we will see.
Round em up & give them full citizenship!
Bomb the Muslims! With humanitarian aid! (play doh)
You do know it was always a joke right?
I mean what else would you expect from a dude with a brony avatar saying he would vote for Trump. I guess it wasn't obvious.
Trump says whatever he wants to get a favorable response. I honestly don't think he is really a republican. He takes whatever stance he needs to gain traction. He will flip in a heartbeat if it means some success for him. He has no personal convictions except wanting to be rich
This is part of his allure I think. If you hate politics and think the system is a joke, might as well vote trump because he will piss everyone off. Including his own party
This is part of his allure I think. If you hate politics and think the system is a joke, might as well vote trump because he will piss everyone off. Including his own party
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
On the next Triumph the Insult Comic Dog fake campaign ad special:
"I am going to offer total amnesty for Mexican illegals but the deal is that they have to become suicide bombers for the US against ISIS. On confirmation of their successful detonation their families will be granted full and complete citizenship. Isnt it time we fought fire with fire?"
BoosterDuck
Banned
Allure? What the hell are you walking about? This guy's been demonizing every race that isn't white this election. He's not fit to be in politics or in any position of power for that matter.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
"BTW You're fired! Hah! Love saying that, believe me. Just a great...tremendous catch phrase. The best catch phrase. Now somebody get me Idi Amin's PR guy on the phone, I need a new campaign CEO-in-Chief."
Jeff Sessions was on Face the Nation and he himself didn't seem sure what Trump's policy is going forward. He was asked about Trump's previous statements about deporting 11 million people and then "putting them at the back of the line" for getting back in. Sessions said “People that are here unlawfully, came into the country against our laws, are subject to being removed,” he said, “That’s just plain fact” and that Trump is “wrestling with how to do that” and that he didn't make a commitment at the meeting. This could be another case of Trump leaving his surrogates out to dry or he was just telling Univision what he thought they wanted to hear.
GraveRobberX
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I'd rather stay illegal than have that nutcase be in the white house
Bam Bam Baklava
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What a surprise, he's telling different people what they want to hear while holding no actual position or beliefs of his own.
gutter_trash
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Trump is winging it to the finish line
probably jots down his ideas down on McDonald's napkins
probably jots down his ideas down on McDonald's napkins
EatinOlives
Member
Make no mistake, fully embracing amnesty requires a fundamental change in immigration. For people who are already turned off by his horrible rhetoric, it'll come off as two-faced hypocrisy. For people fully on board with this assholery, it'll be a major betrayal.
He's made his bed. It's really too late for any kind of meaningful pivot when he started out that terribly in the first place.
He's made his bed. It's really too late for any kind of meaningful pivot when he started out that terribly in the first place.
Are you going to tell me trump has no allure? Lol. This dude would have been forgotten along time ago if that was the case. Cannot pretend that people don't like he guy, regardless if he's fit to be president or not
Ninja Scooter
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He has a very limited allure.
sturgboski
Member
So more and more it seems Trump is looking to stay with prepared speeches read off a teleprompter. I felt more comfortable when he would get off message...
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
65% of voters have an unfavorable opinion of him right now.
Manmademan
Member
He has all the "allure" of a train wreck or a tire fire.
Trump has the lowest likeability of any major candidate pretty much ever. So no, people DONT like the guy, but that doesn't mean they can stop watching the spectacle.
gutter_trash
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Trump has Late Night talk show material allure
Don't worry he will snap again
As long as Twitter still exists 'Presidential Trump' will never be more than a 48 hours phenomenon.
He can't resist adding his little asides during those speeches. That's when he digs himself in a hole.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
Yep, just three days and that old orange fogie will be blasting off his mouth again.
Personally speaking, they can fly off
yeah i figured his strategy would be to try and turn minorities against each other and get more votes that way. he will probably fall back to this once this strategy fails.
Would be amazing for the reactions of all the people that "saw this pivot coming". Wonder if they saw the pivot back coming as well.
I personally don't think he'll stick with this either. The reaction from his base his already negative.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Yeah how can he possibly stick with this for more than a week. His base is predicated on nationalism and white rage. Immigrants are the boogeymen he launched his campaign with and hating them is core to his appeal for a lot of people.
CrocMother
Banned
I'm reading that RNC is refuting this story now?
What's going on?
What's going on?
I think history books will write about this campaign as the time when parts of our country devolved into Nazi Germany.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
The story was never official. It was a rumor that Univision broke. My guess is that the rumor was floated by the Trump campaign as a test to see if it would improve his numbers without hurting his base support.
CrocMother
Banned
Wasn't one of the sources a Texas immigration lawyer who was in the meeting?
I don't see how that is from Trump's campaign. Either somebody's lying, or there was a serious miscommunication.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
If you're the Hillary camp how do you respond to this? I would go the route of.... now that you're losing in the polls you suddenly care?
what shes been doing..letting his campaign smother itself.
Like she did scalia.
There is no need for her to sink to his level, or even discuss the joke of a party. I'd keep the positivity going + plan, meeting with all the groups trump dropped the ball on, move forward with unity.
gutter_trash
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the Clinton camp should continue to focus on their ground game and targeting local media markets like they have been doing
National cable news is covering Trump's train wreck while Clinton and Co are making news on local news
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