Trump Campaign Manager: Were Actually Winning Right Now, Cites Undercover' Voters
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Pai Pai Master
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There are so many people who are too embarrassed or ashamed to say publically that they'll vote for us. That's a good thing right?
eBay Huckster
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he's up pretty bigly in polls of secret voters from secret states, i've seen them
entertaining this, I could understand if somebody lied about who they voted for to their friends, but why would they lie on a poll, especially the ones done on landline phones? I mean if you are THAT embarrassed to even admit to a stranger yo uare voting for Trump, there may be a problem there with your choice.
Maybe he's talking about Wikileaks poll?
BobTheFork
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Whether the 'silent majority' is real, I actually agree with his point. I think they are many people who are going to vote for Trump but are too ashamed to vocally admit it to someone. Shame Voters
Palette Swap
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He mistook polls for /pol/, an honest mistake.
Fluffernutter Pancake
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LOL --- is this what he talks about w/ Trump in his daily briefings to convince him to keep him onboard?
"No, really......we're making GREAT progress among the swing state voters.......sure, the POLLS may show you getting slaughtered, but fear not.....we've established an UNDERCOVER NETWORK OF SECRET VOTERS that will carry you to victory on Election Day......"
This election may be the most entertaining of our lifetime
"No, really......we're making GREAT progress among the swing state voters.......sure, the POLLS may show you getting slaughtered, but fear not.....we've established an UNDERCOVER NETWORK OF SECRET VOTERS that will carry you to victory on Election Day......"
This election may be the most entertaining of our lifetime
FlammableD
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It's worth noting the amount of talk about "Shy Tories" and the pre Brexit polls over here.
Polls aren't infallible. If you're worried about Trump getting in, don't get complacent cause the polls say you're fine. Especially when we're dealing with things like this where people feel like they can't spout their bullshit out loud.
Polls aren't infallible. If you're worried about Trump getting in, don't get complacent cause the polls say you're fine. Especially when we're dealing with things like this where people feel like they can't spout their bullshit out loud.
Pai Pai Master
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A lot of dumb people gonna be Karl Rove-ing it this year lol
Every sentence here is a gold-mine.
1. First paragraph admits that Trump is completely embarrassing to a majority of voters.
2. She admits they have a number, but is unable to talk about it. Why? It's an election. You should be touting numbers constantly.
3. The trump campaign has a team dedicated to a project that tallies the number of people too embarrassed to talk about trump in public, but is fine voting for him in private.
1. First paragraph admits that Trump is completely embarrassing to a majority of voters.
2. She admits they have a number, but is unable to talk about it. Why? It's an election. You should be touting numbers constantly.
3. The trump campaign has a team dedicated to a project that tallies the number of people too embarrassed to talk about trump in public, but is fine voting for him in private.
SolicitorPirate
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Lol, 538's most recent podcast had them discussing how unlike most Trump campaign staffers, Kellyanne Conway was a serious pollster who operated strictly in reality. Only took a few days for her to put that assessment in doubt
Alex_Mexico
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What? +2 is nothing. That isn't even over the margin of error! You sure you didn't mean +12?
appaws
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Ah Yes. That makes sense.
I don't think the election is "over" by any means. But I think Trump's chance of victory depends on externalities that could cause a swing. Some sort of scandal or massive terror attack or something like that.
SwiftDeath
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I love how "Trump is actually doing better because it's too shameful to actually say you're voting for him" is a current PR strategy
cartographer
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Trump actually leads in the states of West Dakota and New Virginia but you never hear the lamestream liberal media talk about that.
NYCmetsfan
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Shame changes votes.
eBay Huckster
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it's worth noting that our minority population is currently larger than (or at least on par with) your actual population
Dubbedinenglish
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She can't say the number because like gazelles if you spook them, they run away.
LA Times has been by far the most Trump friendly poll. At one point they had him +7 and they had him winning earlier this week and his supporters have been treating it like gospel. And now it shows him losing.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-supporters-probably-arent-lying-to-pollsters/
There was no "shy Trump voter" effect in the primaries.
Lord Frieza
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It's also worth noting that Brexit doesn't have any real direct comparison to what's happening with Trump, never has, and has become a de facto comparison to those who really only have a gleaming idea of what's happening, and has become a pseudo-fear mongering tactic in these threads despite having almost nothing in common outside a very broad connection through xenophobia
Do some of you guys really not understand that the vast majority of polling is anonymous? They are not spouting anything "out loud" to anyone lol. I have no idea what some of you are on about, honestly.
Right. If its socially unacceptable to vote for him why would you make that seem like its a good thing lmao.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Dat Bradley Effect
Leave was winning in most of the lead up to the vote and remain only took a lead, in the margin of error, within the days right before the vote. It isn't comparable at all to the leads Hillary has on Trump. And that doesn't even bring up the fact that the minority population of the US compared to the UK makes those that try to correlate Trump/Brexit together look foolish.
Brexit polls didn't show that the leave votes were losing overwhelmingly. The polls showed a toss-up but people just assumed it would never happen, just like how the polls showed Trump winning but people assumed it wouldn't happen, then acted surprised when he ended up winning.
badcrumble
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I wouldn't be surprised if there were *some* amount by which 'likely voter' numbers were a bit more wrong than usual this year - he's going to bring some people out of the woodwork who don't ordinarily vote - but there's no way it's sufficient to make up for Clinton's lead, and it's fairly clear that he's down to his 'hard' support only right now (and that even that is likely softening).
If the Clinton campaign wants to crush him even harder, I guess they could start doing what they can to raise Gary Johnson's profile.
If the Clinton campaign wants to crush him even harder, I guess they could start doing what they can to raise Gary Johnson's profile.
ebullientprism
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I would imagine all Trump voters would be undercover voters. You dont out and out admit you are voting for the Orange turd.
valkillmore
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haha yes that thought process is happening
Crimson_Fate
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I believe they are referring to the ZIP app story
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/17/new-app-says-trump-will-win-2016-election/21453276/
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/17/new-app-says-trump-will-win-2016-election/21453276/
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