Discoveries possibly not being saved in No Man's Sky
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Stealthcobra
Member
By far my biggest disappointment in gaming ever.... Got rid of the game
CelticKnight
Member
Been playing No Man's Sky a bit recently, massively underwhelmed by it.
As much as I laughed when I first read this, it makes sense since this is immediately after the game boots up, and there isn't even time to connect to server and grab data by this point.
I'm still holding out hope that:
- there is matchmaking happening while warping to a new system
- people have successfully been matched many times by now
- people have not bumped into one another because the space around and on planets in a single system is pretty damn large on its own
- people may have seen each other flying by and not realized it
Those two people who were in the same system / location on day 1 never would have had a successful matchmake due to day 1 server load.
But if you can still pause time by going into Options menu, you are definitely not in a matched session... so it may still not be possible.
How can you still be in denial? There is no multiplayer, period.
According to countless network packet tests and code breakdowns, this is not the case. Multiplayer or matchmaking in any way shape or form does not exist.
Aenima
Member
I dont really care about my discoveries, as im not even in the starter galaxy anymore. But when i was midway towards the center my game gliched my discoveries page, wiping them all completely from my list yet the planets and star system i was on still had the name i gave them even if that was wiped from my list.
So im guessing the discovery list saves localy while the uploaded stuff stays in the servers. And thers only so much you can store in your local save that i guess reaching a certain amount, the earlier stuff will start being deleted from your list to keep room for the new ones.
But when the game moves you on making impossible to return to ur starter galaxy, all that have very little meaning to me. Is just a name lost in space for someone else to eventually bump into it, or not.
Cool, source? I'd love to read this stuff
There was a GAF thread dedicated to data mining and networking testing to figure this stuff out.
Of course that wasn't enough to convince some people...
Gamer @ Heart
Member
How. How can you still hold out hope for stuff like this. People have looked at the game files dude. There is no multiplayer period.
GAFer is data mining through No Man's Sky (PC)
The entire thread shows there is no multiplayer based on the code breakdown
And in my thread from earlier gossi ran a bunch of network packet tests on the PC and PS4 version of the game. Apparently he works in like network security or something so he is pretty qualified. Here is one of his posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213440256&postcount=8270
Based on all his test, location data is never sent.
The amount of server space required to store bits of text like this is relatively tiny. You can store something like 200 million words in a gigabyte.
Sure server space isn't infinite, but we're talking the kind of data you can fit on a USB stick. The whole text of Wikipedia is only 12gb (as of 2015).
NMS players have not created more data than that. And whatever storage they have at the server end it's going to be more than 12gb.
CyberPunked
Member
I want to get off Murray's wild ride.
BouncyFrag
Member
Check out one of them in the back (bearded guy in purple) shrugging with nervous smile. He knew what was going to happen.
Check out one of them in the back (bearded guy in purple) shrugging with nervous smile. He knew what was going to happen.
¯\_(ツ
_/¯I've replied to your point in the OT already, but here we go again:
The game doesn't just store text, there's a screenshot of the waypoints and models (even animated for animals) for animals/plants/rocks. Which is very most likely why system/planet names on the other hand are not affected. At least not so far.
Other than hitting some sort of space limiting at some point, why would you think this happen? They just thought it'd be funny to periodically erase your discoveries?
GhostWriter24
Member
$60. Sixty American fucking dollars they charged for this utter tire fire of a game.
I am so, so sorry to those who bought Murray's nonsense hook, line, and sinker. At least consumers are now well-aware of what this guy will try to pull in the future.
I am so, so sorry to those who bought Murray's nonsense hook, line, and sinker. At least consumers are now well-aware of what this guy will try to pull in the future.
jakonovski
Member
This game is truly the greatest Potemkin village ever crafted.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Put the full reddit quote in the op. Waiting for the gaffer's photos from his first hand test.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I seriously doubt the game is storing models, rather it is probably just storing the values needed for the client that is calling the information to generate that model themselves. You're not storing a 3mb diffuse with a full rig skeleton each time you upload.
Lol. Feel free to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of your life suing a company because discoveries don't work properly.
But you can do anything!
hydragonwarrior
Member
Black hole physics technology - another exclusive go NMS.
jakonovski
Member
So in reality this game is enclosed, static 3d levels loaded up from a seed, chosen from a menu that looks like stars. After loading up an instance of a level, you can name objects temporarily.
I'm sure Sean Murray is hoping that the odds of that happening are nearly impossible.
Iva Demilcol
Member
John Rabbit
Banned
30 hours in and I've gone back to my home planet and it's still discovered/documented.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Consequent! The names have the same lifetime as the promises of the game developers. They evaporate after a short time.
He couldn't tell the truth because he didn't want to spoil the surprises.
there are no surprises - at least not good ones
The question might be how much of those 30 hours did you spend discovering things, or did you just spend a ton of time on a small number of planets/ignoring flora & fauna ?
Waiting on you!
Last Hearth
Member
Amazing, is there anything about this game that isn't smoke and mirrors?
People are comparing this game to Spore. But I think a more appropriate comparison maybe Outpost. Interestingly another game about going to space.
If you don't know about Outpost, it happened in the mid-90's and was a very much hyped game about space colonization, and the game turned into a debacle of the highest order. Half of the features of the game that is described in the games' instruction manual wasn't actually in the game. (Sound familiar?)
People are comparing this game to Spore. But I think a more appropriate comparison maybe Outpost. Interestingly another game about going to space.
If you don't know about Outpost, it happened in the mid-90's and was a very much hyped game about space colonization, and the game turned into a debacle of the highest order. Half of the features of the game that is described in the games' instruction manual wasn't actually in the game. (Sound familiar?)
UncleSporky
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No guarantee that those are actually screenshots or models being stored on the server.
For animals or other objects you just store the numbers used to generate the creature, which takes up even less space than text. 10-5-3-12-4 for head 10, body 5, legs 3, texture 12, size 4. Maybe AI package 13, preferred food 11, if it gets that granular.
For waypoints, you store the player's coordinates in the local worldspace and quickly generate what that view would look like if you were standing in system 57359275 on planet 3 at -37.81, 187.2, 76.3, facing 23.4, -90.2, 43.0.
No massive amounts of data required, just numbers.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Soooooooo very happy we did not buy these games.
Bug in the game that happens under specific conditions like exceeding a certain number of discoveries? I mean, I'm not sure why you're assuming it's intentional.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Players are making new discoveries every day. This game is delivering!
BibiMaghoo
Member
Must be a bug, there is no way that would be deliberate. How much resources can some names and checkpoints use? Very little.
See I knew about this but why would they send location data if you are not matched into a session with someone?
I specifically hoped that they would have network captured while warping and look for a matchmaking attempt...
GankzyMcfly
Member
Anxiously awaiting the screenshots/test details. If this isnt a bug then its a nail for coffin in my opinion.
Acerac
Banned
Nobody is upset at you for liking the game, we're just trying to figure out what works properly and what doesn't.
GankzyMcfly
Member
I would imagine if matchmaking/multiplayer of any form was within nms it would have been found in some capacity by data miners at this point....tbh the fact that your still holding out hope that it exists in the core game is kind of sad...perhaps they'll patch it in at some point but with regards to the launch version of nms, what you are suggesting is extremely unlikely imo.