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PlayStation Meeting announced. September 7th 3PM ET (PS4 Neo Reveal)
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Yes pretty much.
BRSxIgnition
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I still find that most agree on a $249/$449 Slim/NEO split.
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it will be mostly about hardware and a few already well known games showcasing the differences with the Neo
Cow Goes Moo
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No PS3 emulation no buy
Kutaragi all the way
Kutaragi all the way
vpance
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Pissed off enough to sell your PS4 and jump to PC tho?
Neo probably isn't for you, if you're more concerned with saving $100 over a good bump in spec.
BRSxIgnition
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Any focus on games will likely be limited to hardware demonstrations.
We may get a few surprises though.
Woodchipper
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What?
Backfoggen
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They didn't say anything.
If you want a bump in spec you want a PS5. Alternately wait another year for Scorpio.
wapplew
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2x more powerful.
vpance
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I just find it funny, people who want Neo, but at the same time don't really care what the actual spec is. It's like you want to buy it more for the sake of not being left behind (or obsolete, right?) than real interest in added performance and better visuals.
TetraGenesis
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Thread an aux cable through a fucking cinder block and I'm set.
ShooterMcTavish
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Codeblew
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Maybe..... Not getting my hopes up over that.
what are you even talking about?
The Neo better be over 4.2 tf. I don't mind paying an extra 100 bucks for the power increase. It has to last us until PS5. If people don't like the price, stick with OG PS4. It's still a good console.
So what DBZ character do you think Neo will be in terms of power if PS4 is Goku super saiyan 1?
The Last One
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Primethius
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One thing that confuses me. Why do people think size and three prongs of the power cable indicate more power then 4.2tf?
Why can't a 4.2 TF console in 2016 be this size and so on?
Why can't a 4.2 TF console in 2016 be this size and so on?
vpance
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Never mind. Just some late night deep psychoanalysis.
Don't get pissed guys, new hardware launch is a glorious time!
I think the idea is that a power supply that size isn't necessary to power the previously rumored specs. That and the supposed weight of the box itself leads people to believe it's running at a higher spec.
Woodchipper
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What I don't like about all this is that it's unnecessary. The PS4 is doing fucking GREAT! Why fuck up a generation when the concept is working just fine, and has been for ages?
Just because I'll get pissed at a $499 price doesn't mean I won't buy it. Maybe I'm thinking about other original PS4 owners who perhaps are studying, or kids whose parents can't afford it? The whole situation is unique, and I don't like it, but I do like tech and I'm a sucker for graphics so therefore I WILL likely buy a NEO, but I'd rather have them cancel the NEO and announce PS5 in 2019.
Why would I go to PC all of a sudden though?
There is nothing in the box that will make it much stronger for 499 or 449 over 399.
StrongBlackVine
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You don't know that. Do you work at Sony?
Woodchipper
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How come?
xenorevlis
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Because the leaked specs for 4.2 TF and the performance of less power for the similar AMD card is the same, but the higher performance for the same card requires more power?
Or maybe because we have 6 TF+ videocards with TDP of 150? I think it's more the size / weight of the console than the power cable itself, though.
disco potato
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Because any time SONY has something good going for them, they get cocky and fuck shit up.
StrongBlackVine
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Pretty much. It's like I want this so I wont feel badly about being left out, but who cares how strong is just make it cheap. I expect meltdowns if it is stronger than leaked and if it is $449 or higher.
Thus isn't fucking anything up but some people's minds.
BossDarkseid
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Do the latest rumours/leaks suggest an internal or external power brick?
Leona Lewis
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Because why have one upgrade every 5-6 years when you can make bank through Apple-style incremental upgrades every year or two?
What these companies don't realize, of course, is that a video game console in 2016 is a premium product as it is. A phone isn't.
I can't wait for this to crash and burn spectacularly.
xenorevlis
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Well the claim is 4.5 kg so basically 10lbs (and 3cm thicker than PS4 Slim) so I'm betting it's inside the system, lol.
vpance
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Pretty much every CE, mobile, computing device, TV, car, shoe, etc, has the concept of model tiers though. This shouldn't make people upset, they'll do what naturally comes to them and buy what they can afford. It's a new thing for consoles but I think we'll adapt quickly.
The PC thing is kind of a joke. When Neo was first rumored, there were a lot of people saying fuck this, I'm jumping to PC. Just more irrational thinking.
Primethius
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Sony forecasts already suggest what they expect. 1-2 million by March 2017 (by my estimates for Neo).
xenorevlis
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I believe upping the CPU was the reason it'd be more than $399, but also means they can conversely up the GPU without incurring much cost or bottleneck (especially with improvements to memory / bus / etc.) However this was back in March or so? Many things could have changed between then and now that we will not know about until the 7th and beyond.
Dangansona
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I feel like I live a happier life not having to retread the same arguments about the NEO over and over without any concrete information or marketing from Sony. Just hang in there another week guys.
vpance
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The 2 prong power cable has a max of 250w, under safety regs. Moving to 3 suggests the PSU will be higher than that.
I would agree if they were updating every year like a phone, but an upgrade every 3 yrs or so isn't bad.
an entire week left. ugh
xenorevlis
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I think letting discussion of gaming hardware (especially an iteration of existing platform) should never impact your happiness. If that's really the case, you're probably better off spending your time in different activities until the 7th
StrongBlackVine
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I would like to know why there is this idea that console manufacturers have design a product to cater to everyone. If you don't like the iterative model then keep your current PS4 or buy a slim if you are new to this gen. Either way you get all the same games. I see a real sense of entitlement. Usually that term is thrown around lightly when it applies to gamers, but it really does apply here.
Woodchipper
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Yeah, it's as if they lack confidence for no reason.
Based on the components we know are in there guys, why is it so hard for you guys to actually understand this?
Upclocking some parts that don't even scale linearly in a computational sense this close to launch is not going to justify 50 or 100 extra bucks when its essentially pointless for the rest of the unit and what the system is designed for
Oh it 'better be'? The PS4 has lasted you so far, the current leaked specs will do the job.
Vegeta realized the limitations of Ultra Super Saiyan and so didn't bother to try and unlock the skill, because increasing (GPU) power without (CPU or RAM) speed eventually becomes an act of diminishing returns. Trunks on the other hand continued onward foolishly in pursuit of more (GPU) power, but learned his lesson too late.
So PS4 is Vegeta OG Super Saiyan, NEO is Vegeta Super Saiyan first grade after Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and Scorpio is, depending on what CPU they use, Trunks in Ultra SSJ(Super Saiyan Second Grade)(no Zen, Jaguar) or Goku after Hyperbolic Time chamber((Zen+Vega). PS5 in 2019 is SSJ2 Gohan against Cell(2019 tech in general)
xenorevlis
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So you don't actually get what you're saying, eh? We don't know what has changed since initial leak at beginning of year, and your metric for price increase makes no sense. Me personally spending $50 or $100 on a better videocard or more RAM will absolutely result in better performance.
Now realize that the cost of a more powerful APU, larger HDD, etc. ordered in the magnitude of millions will not be "$50 or $100" more per item. Mass quantities = reduced cost, so the difference between $399 and $499 console can absolutely make a difference.
Leona Lewis
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StrongBlackVine
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Making a product to appeal to different segment of the market denotes a lack of confidence? This topic is really going off the rails now.
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