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PlayStation Meeting announced. September 7th 3PM ET (PS4 Neo Reveal)

Right before the Neo's unveil, how do you feel about the system?

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Fredrik said:
Can't the same be said about Scorpio? We didn't get any details when it was announced.

Personally I believe Sony will delay Neo until they know it'll beat Scorpio, I have no proof but I just can't see Sony launch Neo knowing that it'll be weaker than the next Xbox just a year later, seems way too short sighted for a tech focused company like Sony.
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Far too many people believe the distant second place competitor is influencing the front runners decisions.. when in reality it is exactly the opposite.
 
The last few pages have been thoroughly entertaining. People have most there minds. Keep it up GAF it's great reading lol.

I've only glanced over this thread from time to time and I remember some talk about a blue pill and a red pill. Was that info legit or was it just fantasy?
 
onQ123 said:
That's silly because if the game is 4K it most likely will be pushing the hardware.
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The line of thinking is that the higher the resolution, the more difficult it is to create crazy visuals and the fps suffers too. The higher it gets, the more money it costs, the more DLC and season passes and goat sacrifices they'll need to recoup the costs will just keep rising. People will continue to complain about performance and glitchery.

I just had coffee
 
Fredrik said:
Can't the same be said about Scorpio? We didn't get any details when it was announced.

Personally I believe Sony will delay Neo until they know it'll beat Scorpio, I have no proof but I just can't see Sony launch Neo knowing that it'll be weaker than the next Xbox just a year later, seems way too short sighted for a tech focused company like Sony.
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Sony would rather the extra year in sales.
To get Neo specs like Scorpio they would have to come around the same time.
If Scorpio sales are good Sony can just bring out PS5 in 2019 which gives Scorpio 2 years on top tech wise.
 
onQ123 said:
That's silly because if the game is 4K it most likely will be pushing the hardware.
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After watching the DF video about temporal resolution and checkerboard rendering I'm not worried at all.

I believe there will be many 3rd party games utilizing this. Though I'm not sure about 60fps games already like for example UC4. Though I wonder to what extent they can do this. I hope the Neo offers big benefits viisually to 1080P TV owners. I don't have a 4K TV yet.
 
Wace said:
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From the other thread

Edit: sorry, messed up due to typo in thread's title.

...And it's not RDR anyways.
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I keep seeing a mangled dog face.
 
c0de said:
Neo won't have 4k resolution in big games that push hardware.
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Pushing hardware is relative, Does a game like Resogun not push hardware where they even used GPGPU for collisions, physics and particles blasts for explosions.

onQ123 said:
People calling Jaguar weak but as far as I can remember 8 Jaguar cores have been the best CPU to go into a PlayStation console. PlayStations never had a beast of a CPU it has always been the Vector Unit co-processors that helped out, the only thing is that for PS4 the co-processing was done by GPU compute.
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Games like COD have not been documented to make use of Compute Shaders, other titles have, yet COD is a 60fps title on consoles. People look at these systems and go wreckless with their talk on Jaguar, not that I don't want a better CPU on NEO, but Jaguar is a very capable CPU, especially if you cater to the architecture of current console hardware.


A launch game Resogun, which is heavy on physics and collisions had all of that running on compute shaders, so they hardly used more than 50% of the jaguar CPU. So if a game like COD only uses the jaguar and perhaps not even at optimum or efficiently, you're going to get a game with dips and people will run in to say, hey, it's those nasty jaguars, but in reality the jaguars on their own are not bad and they were made to work with GPGPU in conceptualization of the hardware.
 
Fredrik said:
Can't the same be said about Scorpio? We didn't get any details when it was announced.

Personally I believe Sony will delay Neo until they know it'll beat Scorpio, I have no proof but I just can't see Sony launch Neo knowing that it'll be weaker than the next Xbox just a year later, seems way too short sighted for a tech focused company like Sony.
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Makes no sense. Sony doesn't have to fear a 1 or 1.5TF difference. They're going to launch their console one year earlier and it will be way cheaper. In the end, it's still PS vs. Xbox. Nothing will change, just because another console (1 year later) will have a 1.5TF stronger GPU.
 
thelastword said:
Pushing hardware is relative, Does a game like Resogun not push hardware where they even used GPGPU for collisions, physics and particles blasts for explosions.


Games like COD have not been documented to make use of Compute Shaders, other titles have, yet COD is a 60fps title on consoles. People look at these systems and go wreckless with their talk on Jaguar, not that I don't want a better CPU on NEO, but Jaguar is a very capable CPU, especially if you cater to the architecture of current console hardware.


A launch game Resogun, which is heavy on physics and collisions had all of that running on compute shaders, so they hardly used more than 50% of the jaguar CPU. So if a game like COD only uses the jaguar and perhaps not even at optimum or efficiently, you're going to get a game with dips and people will run in to say, hey, it's those nasty jaguars, but in reality the jaguars on their own are not bad and they were made to work with GPGPU in conceptualization of the hardware.
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Excellent post.

It's the same concept as Cell SPUs + RSX synergy. They were made to work that way, so it's the devs fault if they don't program the console the way it was designed to work.
 
The only reason, for not pushing the PlayStation Meeting in social media, that I can think of is that it won't be lots of new things shown. They probably don't want people to expect too much from this.
 
onQ123 said:
That's silly because if the game is 4K it most likely will be pushing the hardware.
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Sure but I'm talking about games pushing the base ps4 to its max which will be mostly the case when it comes to Neo games. Ps4 games that get prettier graphics as neo is not allowed to have exclusive games.
 
Moskalova said:
Sony Korea confirms livestream for their conference of 8th september. New PS4 model

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http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2016/09/06/68426.html
http://www.playstation.co.kr/news/46233

Livestream in this link
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It's not too far off, I can't wait for all those people who were so sure that they know what the specs and price on the system is going to be..

.....Like; it's can't be more powerful than 4.19TF, and there's no way it's priced higher than $399.00. Hmph....I think people who want a cheaper and more affordable PS4 should set their sights on a slim, those who have been calling for a premium console with a UHD drive, better wifi. better specs and features should be willing to pay for it. At least $100.00 over the original PS4's launch price.
 
vpance said:
FauxK will be in 👍
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I know. When people say games will be in 4K people will take that to mean rendered in 4K native. It's getting people's hopes up (for those that listen) for no reason whatsoever.

If a PS4 game is rendered in 900p like BF1 and BF4 would you say the game is 1080p? No. It may be output at 1080p but the games actually 900p.

Anyway I'm on a rant and it's not directed at you or anyone in particular :)
 
Could that maybe be Rigs... it is PSVR release month next month and Rigs one of the most high profile full games being made for it.. looks kinda like a mech in front of an explosion... Either that or Crash Bandicoot ;)
 
DavidDesu said:
Could that maybe be Rigs... it is PSVR release month next month and Rigs one of the most high profile full games being made for it.. looks kinda like a mech in front of an explosion... Either that or Crash Bandicoot ;)
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Yeah, I don't think that has anything to do with NEO, people forget that PSVR is launching in October.......That will no doubt get lots of coverage and attention in the coming weeks.
 
Housemarque makes for great tech in games for Sony hardware

Do you think we will see Matterfall as one of the showcase for NEO? Or Project Jarvis?

Also i wonder if Deep Down will still be F2P or not i wouldn't mind either i just want it to exist and i want to play it for myself!

Forever Changes said:
People buying 4k TV's for PS4 Neo is kind of like when people bought 1080p TV's for PS3.
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Agree it's too early for proper 4K gaming guys calm yourselves in a couple of years prices of these 4k sets will reduce dramatically including improving tech and maybe input lag too
 
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