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[Rotch Crot]

I think he's holding out for Scorpio... (which won't change the landscape at all..)

What does that even mean?

 

[Vercimber]

With my limited time my predictions with paragraphs as requested but it's still a long read lol.

My PS meeting predictions:
Sony opens with the usual montage of amazing games coming out this year and early next year. The crowd claps and a few faces show disappointment preparing for the usual conference. Phil Harrison takes the stage announcing that he is back with Sony after hearing of the superior specs of neo compared to Scorpio.
The crowd goes crazy begging to see what Sony is now calling the PS ark of the covenant. Sony talks briefly how they sent a team of Sony ninjas to find the Ark of the covenant just before launching the PS1. Sony believed the Ark held the secrets to creating the most powerful console of all time.
Many years of failure led Sony to clone Nathan Drake into a real human who discovered the Ark last year. After stealing the Ark Nate sent for back up as Microsoft employees caught wind of the discovery. A team of Sony Engineers led by Mark Cerny developed a Genetically modified version of Bog Bosses DNA extracted directly from MGS1's game code to clone a new snake they code named Neo-Snake.
Shuhei Yoshida snuck into the undisclosed location along side neo snake to successfully sneak Nathan drake and the ark past Microsoft agents. At this point half the crowd is having seizures from the disbelief and a clean up crew is sent in to clean up all the vomit seeping closer and closer to the front row. Helicopters are now surrounding the building along with hostage negotiators pleading with Sony to stop the conference and let the attendees out. Sony refuses and Phil now brings to the stage Ken Kutaragi.
This is where things get bat sh*t crazy Ken announces that today he will be leaving Sony. He takes a knee and Phil pulls out a sword, the entire place grows silent confused as to what is happening. Phil raises his blade and cuts Ken's head off. Phil announces that Ken's years of service to Sony and his selfless sacrifice that was witnessed to millions watching online today has secured Sony the exclusive rights to the Onimusha IP.
Phil cleans his blade off and a trailer is shown, Is this Neo footage?! The graphics are unreal, the PC players in the crowd start throwing up blood in disbelief the PC master race is wounded. Phil announced that the blade that took Kens life would be rendered in game using Neo technology and available to those who preorder the new Onimusha. Now it's Kaz Hirai's turn to take the stage. He calmly steps over Ken's body as he's welcomed with a standing ovation and a very British hand shake with Phil.
Kaz announces that when he was tasked with restructuring Sony he knew PlayStation was vital to the companies success. He's pleased to announce today that Sony will now exclusivity be working on PlayStation and that all other branches in the company are now no longer a priority for them. The crowd starts growing tired and chants Neo, Neo, Neo!!! Show us the Neo!!!!! Kaz takes a bow and says as you wish..... The ground opens up and a box with a cloak covering it is now sitting in front of Kaz. A cloak?! What could this mean?!
The lights get dim and Kaz starts to rip his face off.... He falls to the floor and arises as no other than KOJI MOTHER F*CKEN IGARASHI!! It was him all along, the crowd stands once again in applause he grabs the cloak which now starts to look really familiar could it be?! Yes it is, it's Alucard's cape! Igarashi announces that all PS neo's will come with a copy of Castlevania: Symphony of the night 2!!!!
The FBI smashes through the ceiling and instead of arresting Igarashi they bow in his honor. At this point the Internet explodes! At least half of all nations are dead as their computer screens explode. Russia and the US have no choice now but to join forces and try to stop the Japanese power known as Sony. Nukes are flying towards New York and Sony has roughly 2 minutes to unveil Neo. Colin Moriarty and Greg Miller rush to the stage knowing time is dire. Colin alongside Greg announce that there is a new world order and that all who bow to Neo and pledge allegiance will receive 20 years of PS+ for free. The few people still alive in attendance bow and Neo is finally revealed. Neo sports 10 Gpu's with 15 gazillion cores that you plug directly into your brain. Once plugged into the Neo (Matrix) you transcend your body and are now one with the Neo. The computing power at this point is almost incalculable but Sony gives a rough estimate of around 2 billion gazilliflops.

I applaud your effort, sir.

 

[onQ123]

One more day until 40m users demote into second class citizen.

Don't worry the power of the clouds will save you from the lowend PS4 ghetto

As games and applications software become more complex and more photo-realistic, they will require higher-performance CPUs, GPUs, more RAM, and larger and faster disk drives, and the computing power at the hosting service 210 may be continually upgraded, but the end user will not be required to update the home or office client platform 215 since its processing requirements will remain constant for a display resolution and frame rate with a given video decompression algorithm. Thus, the hardware limitations and compatibility issues seen today do not exist in the system illustrated in FIG. 1.

Further, because the game and application software executes only in servers in the hosting service 210, there never is a copy of the game or application software (either in the form of physical optical media such as a DVD-ROM, or as downloaded software) in the user's home or office ("office" as used herein unless otherwise qualified shall include any non-residential setting, including, schoolrooms, for example). This significantly mitigates the likelihood of a game or application software being illegally copied (pirated), as well as mitigating the likelihood of a valuable database that might be use by a game or applications software being pirated. Indeed, if specialized servers are required (e.g., requiring very expensive, large or noisy equipment) to play the game or application software that are not practical for home or office use, then even if a pirated copy of the game or application software were obtained, it would not be operable in the home or office.

In one embodiment, the hosting service 210 provides software development tools to the game or application software developers (which refers generally to software development companies, game or movie studios, or game or applications software publishers) which design video games so that they may design games capable of being executed on the hosting service 210. Such tools allow developers to exploit features of the hosting service that would not normally be available in a standalone PC or game console (e.g., fast access to very large databases of complex geometry ("geometry" unless otherwise qualified shall be used herein to refer to polygons, textures, rigging, lighting, behaviors and other components and parameters that define 3D datasets)).

Different business models are possible under this architecture. Under one model, the hosting service 210 collects a subscription fee from the end user and pays a royalty to the developers. In an alternate implementation, the developers collect a subscription fee directly from the user and pays the hosting service 210 for hosting the game or application content. These underlying principles are not limited to any particular business model for providing online gaming or application hosting.

 

[Cc23830]

So is anybody actually expecting any information to leak before the conference?
And no, i do not want any more poorly drawn pictures of supposed units

 

[d9b]

 

[BossDarkseid]

Final bets on pricing:

UK wise for me at least

PS4 (I assume they'll let the current PS4 stock be sold but then the Slim will be the base model) £250

PS4K/Neo £399/£450-500 with 1yr PS Plus and a game

 

[SlickShoes]

Man I wish something would leak already (other than the slim lol)

Pricing wise in the UK the Slim will be £249 and surely contain a game? Maybe £229 on it's own?

Neo or whatever it is will be £450 in the UK and $500 in the US.

 

[Backfoggen]

Lol, some people in this thread now acting like this is E3 Part 2.

I wonder what Microsoft is going to show.

Man I wish something would leak already (other than the slim lol)

Pricing wise in the UK the Slim will be £249 and surely contain a game? Maybe £229 on it's own?

Neo or whatever it is will be £450 in the UK and $500 in the US.

What's the point of a leak now, only a day left now.

 

[theindieboy]

My wife is making me make a cake because she wants a competition.
1. Hers was bleddy delicious last week.
2. I hate cooking ( or baking as she calls it)

I will miss this then all of the internet will freeze and eat itself when people are trying to log on to discuss the mindblowing facts i will have missed out on.

Watch it on your phone with headphones on or something that way you both get to watch what you want.

 

[Cc23830]

Watch it on your phone with headphones on or something that way you both get to watch what you want.

But how am i meant to keep an eye on my scones 😂😂

 

[SlickShoes]

I wonder what Microsoft is going to show.

What's the point of a leak now, only a day left now.

The point is it's exciting to get info before the event? The event will no doubt be setting up so stuff could leak before the thing is broadcast.

 

[wapplew]

I think he's holding out for Scorpio... (which won't change the landscape at all..)

No.
Neo or Scorpio both are same, iterative model. Faster or or slower are not my concern. Iterative hardware is conservative, lack of imagination, boring and predictable. I understand why console manufactures take that path, too risky for more disruptive innovation.
Maybe it's unavoidable, if consoles take this riskless path, I might be just done with console, I have other save and conservative gaming devices anyway.

 

[Putty]

Just checking into this legendary thread.....aanndd i'm gone.

 

[Dredd97]

What does that even mean?

pretty sure he feels people will hold off buying the neo in favour of the Scorpio next year..

frankly it's not happening, and there will be something like 70m PS4's in the wild by the time it launches..

edit.

I stand corrected..

 

[Putty]

No.
Neo or Scorpio both are same, iterative model. Faster or or slower are not my concern. Iterative hardware is conservative, lack of imagination, boring and predictable. I understand why console manufactures take that path, too risky for more disruptive innovation.
Maybe it's unavoidable, if consoles take this riskless path, I might be just done with console, I have other save and conservative gaming devices anyway.

Sounds like you should spend a thousand pounds on a PC and then spit on console manufacturers from a great height...

 

[orochi91]

No.
Neo or Scorpio both are same, iterative model. Faster or or slower are not my concern. Iterative hardware is conservative, lack of imagination, boring and predictable. I understand why console manufactures take that path, too risky for more disruptive innovation.
Maybe it's unavoidable, if consoles take this riskless path, I might be just done with console, I have other save and conservative gaming devices anyway.

NX might be the console for you, since it's rumoured to be quite unconventional.

Nintendo's taking big risks with that concept.

 

[Primethius]

We demand dips and stuttering!

And maybe some tearing here and there.

Or you know, locked 30 FPS is fine too.

But the melting eyes! People want to be floored!

Yes please. I have a 980ti and a kick ass PC.

I regularly down sample my games and lock them to 30 FPS in a variety of titles where FPS isn't that important.

I sure as hell don't want some random 60 FPS requirement on all my games for no reason other then to placate a subset of people that think 60 FPS is the end all be all.

 

[Forever Changes]

Or you know, locked 30 FPS is fine too.
.

But what If I don't want fine..I want excellence!

 

[Primethius]

But what If I don't want fine..I want excellence!

Buy a PC?

 

[Forever Changes]

Buy a PC?

I have one.

But I want to play Uncharted 4 in 60fps god darnnit.

 

[wapplew]

Sounds like you should spend a thousand pounds on a PC and then spit on console manufacturers from a great height...

That's my problem, I have PC already and don't want console turn into another one.

 

[orochi91]

Or you know, locked 30 FPS is fine too.

Yes please. I have a 980ti and a kick ass PC.

I regularly down sample my games and lock them to 30 FPS in a variety of titles where FPS isn't that important.

By the way, since you're using NVIDIA, do you play with the refresh rate set to half when locking games to 30fps?

I've noticed that regular 30fps on PC is relatively more choppy than 30fps on consoles. Going into NVIDIA Inspector and setting the refresh rate to half will result in a far smoother 30fps gaming session.

 

[onQ123]

No.
Neo or Scorpio both are same, iterative model. Faster or or slower are not my concern. Iterative hardware is conservative, lack of imagination, boring and predictable. I understand why console manufactures take that path, too risky for more disruptive innovation.
Maybe it's unavoidable, if consoles take this riskless path, I might be just done with console, I have other save and conservative gaming devices anyway.

Neo & Scorpio is being made because you're not the only person in the world & some people have 4K TVs & need a console that can take advantage of the 4K screen.

 

[Vashetti]

40 million PS4 consoles will spontaneously combust an hour before the conference tomorrow.

All according to keikaku.

 

[Primethius]

By the way, since you're using NVIDIA, do you play with the refresh rate set to half when locking games to 30fps?

I've noticed that regular 30fps on PC is relatively more choppy than 30fps on consoles. Going into NVIDIA Inspector and setting the refresh rate to half will result in a far smoother 30fps gaming session.

Yea, I do for some titles. Usually I have MSI Afterburner open on my second screen monitoring the frametimings and fiddle around with the settings afterwards to achieve the smoothest 30 FPS I can.

I still find that usually, console 30 FPS feels smoother but often, setting it to half the refresh rate with some adaptive v-sync or some other tinkering does a pretty good job.

I have one.

But I want to play Uncharted 4 in 60fps god darnnit.

You can. In MP.

Tbh, if Neo's upgrade for UC4 is an extra 30 FPS, that'd be incredibly disappointing personally.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

40 million PS4 consoles will spontaneously combust an hour before the conference tomorrow.

All according to keikaku.

They'll get over it....hopefully. Sony needs to nail the messaging here.

 

[DKHF]

Do we expect any new game announcements or more info to already announced games?
I hope for more God of War 4 info since according to the previous leaks it should be the showcase game for the PS4 Neo.

I think it will mainly be more info/more showings of already announced games with maybe 1 or 2 new game announcements at most.

So is anybody actually expecting any information to leak before the conference?
And no, i do not want any more poorly drawn pictures of supposed units

I think something else will leak, not sure what though and hopefully nothing too major.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

One more day until 40m users demote into second class citizen.

One more day until extreme overreactions.

 

[brandonh83]

So soon!

No... we're just beginning to believe.

 

[mejin]

That's my problem, I have PC already and don't want console turn into another one.

Sony is not MS.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

I would be pretty disappointed if a TLOU sequel didn't continue the story of Joel and Ellie.

It will. Druckmann already said TLOU was Ellie's origin story.

 

[theindieboy]

With my limited time my predictions with paragraphs as requested but it's still a long read lol.

My PS meeting predictions:
Sony opens with the usual montage of amazing games coming out this year and early next year. The crowd claps and a few faces show disappointment preparing for the usual conference. Phil Harrison takes the stage announcing that he is back with Sony after hearing of the superior specs of neo compared to Scorpio.
The crowd goes crazy begging to see what Sony is now calling the PS ark of the covenant. Sony talks briefly how they sent a team of Sony ninjas to find the Ark of the covenant just before launching the PS1. Sony believed the Ark held the secrets to creating the most powerful console of all time.
Many years of failure led Sony to clone Nathan Drake into a real human who discovered the Ark last year. After stealing the Ark Nate sent for back up as Microsoft employees caught wind of the discovery. A team of Sony Engineers led by Mark Cerny developed a Genetically modified version of Bog Bosses DNA extracted directly from MGS1's game code to clone a new snake they code named Neo-Snake.
Shuhei Yoshida snuck into the undisclosed location along side neo snake to successfully sneak Nathan drake and the ark past Microsoft agents. At this point half the crowd is having seizures from the disbelief and a clean up crew is sent in to clean up all the vomit seeping closer and closer to the front row. Helicopters are now surrounding the building along with hostage negotiators pleading with Sony to stop the conference and let the attendees out. Sony refuses and Phil now brings to the stage Ken Kutaragi.
This is where things get bat sh*t crazy Ken announces that today he will be leaving Sony. He takes a knee and Phil pulls out a sword, the entire place grows silent confused as to what is happening. Phil raises his blade and cuts Ken's head off. Phil announces that Ken's years of service to Sony and his selfless sacrifice that was witnessed to millions watching online today has secured Sony the exclusive rights to the Onimusha IP.
Phil cleans his blade off and a trailer is shown, Is this Neo footage?! The graphics are unreal, the PC players in the crowd start throwing up blood in disbelief the PC master race is wounded. Phil announced that the blade that took Kens life would be rendered in game using Neo technology and available to those who preorder the new Onimusha. Now it's Kaz Hirai's turn to take the stage. He calmly steps over Ken's body as he's welcomed with a standing ovation and a very British hand shake with Phil.
Kaz announces that when he was tasked with restructuring Sony he knew PlayStation was vital to the companies success. He's pleased to announce today that Sony will now exclusivity be working on PlayStation and that all other branches in the company are now no longer a priority for them. The crowd starts growing tired and chants Neo, Neo, Neo!!! Show us the Neo!!!!! Kaz takes a bow and says as you wish..... The ground opens up and a box with a cloak covering it is now sitting in front of Kaz. A cloak?! What could this mean?!
The lights get dim and Kaz starts to rip his face off.... He falls to the floor and arises as no other than KOJI MOTHER F*CKEN IGARASHI!! It was him all along, the crowd stands once again in applause he grabs the cloak which now starts to look really familiar could it be?! Yes it is, it's Alucard's cape! Igarashi announces that all PS neo's will come with a copy of Castlevania: Symphony of the night 2!!!!
The FBI smashes through the ceiling and instead of arresting Igarashi they bow in his honor. At this point the Internet explodes! At least half of all nations are dead as their computer screens explode. Russia and the US have no choice now but to join forces and try to stop the Japanese power known as Sony. Nukes are flying towards New York and Sony has roughly 2 minutes to unveil Neo. Colin Moriarty and Greg Miller rush to the stage knowing time is dire. Colin alongside Greg announce that there is a new world order and that all who bow to Neo and pledge allegiance will receive 20 years of PS+ for free. The few people still alive in attendance bow and Neo is finally revealed. Neo sports 10 Gpu's with 15 gazillion cores that you plug directly into your brain. Once plugged into the Neo (Matrix) you transcend your body and are now one with the Neo. The computing power at this point is almost incalculable but Sony gives a rough estimate of around 2 billion gazilliflops.

The only thing i can tell you will not happen is Colin and Greg turning up, they are not attending but are live streaming from San Fansisco before during and after the event, Colin is also rather sick at the moment, and not from Pax Pox others no idea but seems a little unlikely

 

[iboshow]

The only thing i can tell you will not happen is Colin and Greg turning up, they are not attending but are live streaming from San Fansisco before during and after the event, Colin is also rather sick at the moment, and not from Pax Pox others no idea but seems a little unlikely

That's exactly what Greg and Collin want you to think.

 

[Putty]

I am expecting something to leak before tomorrow, what that something is i don't know. Some trademarks might get found before the conference...maybe the name gets leaked...

 

[theindieboy]

But how am i meant to keep an eye on my scones 😂😂

Or even better stand an ipad/tablet in the kitchen and use the speakers hey lots of ways to watch, or just look at twitter explode or not should tell you all you need lol

 

[Simo]

All totally fake but the extent some fans go to...apparently he sent, or was going to, this to Rockstar Games...

It's funny he used the leaked map though and turned it into something looking legit that could be included with the game. lol Those images were cached but the actual post and album got deleted even when he obviously was upfront about the project.

 

[theindieboy]

That's exactly what Greg and Collin want you to think.

Colin was defo in SF a few hours ago, i trust Erin, and doubt he was going anywhere as rather sick, hence no psilu today, no confirmation of where Greg is though.

 

[DC1]

Every ps4 sold has hidden augs.

You must remove your hard drive and flip an internal switch to activate the experimental "neo" mode.

Wasn't this what misterx build is empire of 10 out of? What you are saying is that he was right but simply misdirected?

Mineblown.gif.. where are you?

 

[Rndm]

But why is there a R* North logo on the disc?! It's a R* San Diego game:

 

[StrongBlackVine]

My prediction for Neo patched games to be demoed:

Uncharted 4
Horizon Zero Dawn
Bloodborne
Final Fantasy XV
Call Of Duty Infinite Warfare
Watch Dogs 2
Destiny: Rise Of Iron
Deep Down

Possibly
The Last Guardian
God Of War
NBA 2K17


I wanted to put Rise Of the Tomb Raider on this list, but it is an old game and more importantly it still has a negative aura surrounding it.

 

[c0de]

My prediction for Neo patched games to be demoed:

Uncharted 4
Horizon Zero Dawn
Bloodborne
Final Fantasy XV
Call Of Duty Infinite Warfare
Watch Dogs 2
Destiny: Rise Of Iron
Deep Down

Possibly
The Last Guardian
God Of War
NBA 2K17

I wanted to put Rise Of the Tomb Raider on this list, but it is an old game and more importantly it still has a negative aura surrounding it.

Why do people think Bloodborne will be patched? It's hardly a performance problem but a frame pacing problem which doesn't necessarily mean more juice solves that. Framepacing can also be a problem with 60 fps.
Edit according to your edit with RoTTR: Bloodborne is even older. And RoTTR could serve very good to show the difference between the 4k Xbox One S and the 4K Playstation Neo.

 

[DC1]

NX might be the console for you, since it's rumoured to be quite unconventional.

Nintendo's taking big risks with that concept.

They have taken two many conceptual risk. The NX seems like the right approach in contrast (at this very moment in time): Capitalizing on their hand held market while maintaining a footprint next to the consumers TV.

 

[Forever Changes]

Why do people think Bloodborne will be patched? It's hardly a performance problem but a frame pacing problem which doesn't necessarily mean more juice solves that. Framepacing can also be a problem with 60 fps.

Well theres no framepacing problems with Dark Souls 3 on PC at 60fps but there is on the PS4 version at 30.

 

[LifeBrandRobot]

If the neo isn't on a pedestal with a cloth over it to be whipped away as it's revealed, I'm not buying it.

What if it's slowly lowered from the heavens?

 

[Primethius]

People thinking Bloodborne is going to get patched...

 

[Simo]

But why is there a R* North logo on the disc?! It's a R* San Diego game:

Shits fake so it don't matter. lol

 

[Raiden1018]

All totally fake but the extent some fans go to...apparently he sent, or was going to, this to Rockstar Games...


It's funny he used the leaked map though and turned it into something looking legit that could be included with the game. lol Those images were cached but the actual post and album got deleted even when he obviously was upfront about the project.

Thats really cool!

 

[piccio_ssl]

People thinking Bloodborne is going to get patched...

 

[c0de]

Well theres no framepacing problems with Dark Souls 3 on PC at 60fps but there is on the PS4 version at 30.

This doesn't mean anything but thanks for the observation. So we still don't know why there is framepacing issues but we know that with enough power and 60fps there is no framepacing issues.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Why do people think Bloodborne will be patched? It's hardly a performance problem but a frame pacing problem which doesn't necessarily mean more juice solves that. Framepacing can also be a problem with 60 fps.
Edit according to your edit with RoTTR: Bloodborne is even older. And RoTTR could serve very good to show the difference between the 4k Xbox One S and the 4K Playstation Neo.

It is not just about being an older game. Bloodborne has plenty of people wanting a patch for 60fps and better AA. Also Bloodborne is beloved by PS4 community while ROTTR is not.