xenorevlis
Member
Your own assumptions seem to be your problem
PlayStation Meeting announced. September 7th 3PM ET (PS4 Neo Reveal)
- Thread starter BY2K
- Start date
- Status
StrongBlackVine
Banned
People thinking Bloodborne is going to get patched...
Why is the idea of Bloodborne getting patched so ridiculous? Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne should be first priority for any older exclusive games getting Neo improvements.
Primethius
Banned
FromSoftware couldn't be arsed to fix the frame pacing issue that plagued Bloodborne.
Dark Souls 3 had said frame pacing issue.
But they're going to patch the game to be 60 FPS?
Only way that shits happening is if they fly Cerny over there to do the entire thing by himself.
Forever Changes
Banned
So maybe bloodborne at 60fps solves the issue?
xenorevlis
Member
Rndm
Member
True. But it immediately catched my eye (OCD I guess) especially because it's obvious that he's got to be a huge fan of the games. He should have known better
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I would not be surprised if Sony tasked someone other than From Software with patching it. Japan Studio could do it.
gamerforever
Banned
I can see the witcher 3 being patched as cd projeckt are good like that, but they do seem to lean towards microsoft, so not guaranteed. For me, games like bloodborne, dark souls 3, driveclub and infamous need to be patched to make the neo a day one purchase. I really do not think it is out this year. Slim and vr for the holidays and ps4 neo by march 2017.
Bloodborne with early network testing visuals with no fps drops, better AA and no chromatic aberration patch will force me to buy Noe...
PS4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrKLKjNItQ
Neo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bsegacfptc
PS4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrKLKjNItQ
Neo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bsegacfptc
All 900p+60fps games like Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1, Star Wars Battlefront could be 1080p+60fps on Neo.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I would love to see The Witcher 3 get a Neo patch to a locked 30fps and cranked up visuals. I still have at least another 100 hours left in than game and probably more.
BossDarkseid
Member
Why do you think the Neo won't be this year? The Slim isn't meant to be a "new" SKU in terms of base PS4 + Slim + Neo i think, it's box is just PS4. It's not like there'd be a ton of confusion. There's also the issue of Neo Patches...
That we don't know as we don't know what is causing the framepacing issue.
Wow, the motherboard is only half the size of the box.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I would have listed Battlefield 1, but the Microsoft marketing deal would probably prevent it from being shown at the event. Battlefront could be there, but does any one even still play they game?
We do know that it is not really a problem on PC so doubling the framerate seems to at least mitigate the issue.
It's From, dude. If Sony wanted to foot the bill that would be one thing, but From is more interested in creating new game worlds and designs rather than fussing over specs. And even for Sony there are much smarter investments than patching Bloodborne. I.e. making Bloodborne better does not necessarily yield a high potential for increased sales.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
NBA 2K17 is getting HDR support so I'd expect that would be a Neo candidate
LifeBrandRobot
Member
My god how long would that patch for The Last Guardian take to make. Or worse, they decide to try and implement it before shipping and the game gets delayed AGAIN.
I think we might get a big publisher up on stage with Sony and tell us that their entire PS4 back catalogue will be getting Neo patches day one the console launches. Can just hear Andrew House saying "We've been working with our close partners at Activision.. at EA.."
What do we think. It's all positive PR for everyone involved and could provoke some flash sales of older titles for what's probably little effort (especially when it's also a multiplat PC title).
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Neither does patching Uncharted 4 to be honest.
Well it releases in October so it has to be patched any way. No framerate problems would be enough for me.
Backfoggen
Banned
DS3 capped at 30 Fps on PC also has no frame pacing issues.
I personally want a patch that runs BB at a higher res to improve image quality.
I personally want a patch that runs BB at a higher res to improve image quality.
xenorevlis
Member
GlamFM
Banned
Games with unlocked framerates will have higher framerates just like that.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
No. Unless the game uses dynamic resolution or unlocked framerate. Either way it would still only affect resolution, FPS are locked the way developer designed it. Unless they go back and release a patch.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Not if Sony is sticking with the plan of non-patched games having no improvements. Neo will run the game just like the OG PS4 in that scenario.
Backfoggen
Banned
According to the leaked documents this is not true for Neo.
LiquidSolid
Member
Ah yes, you want risky, disruptively innovative consoles like the PS4/Xbone and the PS3/360 before them... What?
The move to iterative consoles is probably the most risky and disruptive move the industry has seen since the Wii. I think it's really interesting and while I was against upgrading at first, I've come around on it since those initial leaks.
Primethius
Banned
Yes, and this is all the more likely if you think about the leaked documents stating that all games October and onwards need to have a Neo mode.
Given that the only requirement we know of is 1080p minimum, what Neo mode really suggests is that developers implement it so their games can take advantage of Neo in the cases of unlocked framerates or dipping below the desired threshold when the base PS4 mode that Neo has wouldn't.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Depends on the CPU usage, tbh.
Games currently locked at 30 may have their physics timesteps locked at 30 and switching to 60 mat be too taxing on that CPU. Some might even flat out break at higher framerates. There's a lot more that goes into optimization for consoles, even for our game we make decisions knowing the closed architecture and using it to our advantage. I've seen some PC titles break physics with unlocked framerates so there is no "auto" button that can be pushed to make stuff work universally.
Hmmmm, nah
AnthonypUK
Member
Yeah it wouldn't be in production now as we know it is if it was a March release, they don't need months and months of production because its going to be a premium option so won't need the volume. And carried stock for months costs a ton,
It makes no sense to produce now and not hit the holidays season.
Not according to the latest info available. If developers don't specifically patch in NEO-support, the console will run the game at standard PS4 settings (hz, bandwidth, gpu-speed etc).
But we'll see if there's been any updates regarding that tomorrow.
Raiden1018
Banned
Come on Agent
dont do it to yourself...
Come on Agent
Some people are still waiting for this game?
I have lost all faith in this game's existence and hope they announce a new RD at this meeting.
Hostile_18
Banned
This was before the XB1 S reveal wasn't it?, hopefully things have changed on that front.
Yeah, I hope they changed their mind about that (or figured out a solution if it was causing problems in testing). I know it's not feasible to go back to every older game and patch in a neo mode, but it'd be nice to have a boost in performance for games that suffered from dips or have an unlocked framerate that doesn't reach 60 just plain out of the box.
Soooo.....................what if it turns out exactly 0 games get patched? How crazy would the reaction be?
Neo has artificial consciousness & over time it will patch all games to run in Neo mode.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Apparently the whole thing was a farce.
I thought ALL games coming out in Oct HAD to have the neo option. Games in Sept it was strongly suggested they have an option or patch later on.
I really only see some 1st party games (older) getting a patch for improved graphics. Of course it all depends on the amount of time it takes to complete said patch.
I think we'll see a RDR Remaster with upgraded graphics today.
I really only see some 1st party games (older) getting a patch for improved graphics. Of course it all depends on the amount of time it takes to complete said patch.
I think we'll see a RDR Remaster with upgraded graphics today.
Hostile_18
Banned
I'm actually more excited about this than the PS4 reveal... I think it's because it's 100% backward compatible so we're not losing our games.
Expecting 4.2-4.5 anything else is a bonus.
Expecting 4.2-4.5 anything else is a bonus.
Please god let this happen.
Primethius
Banned
Yea, that's what the leaks suggested. This lines up with the other leak/rumor that the base PS4 mode in Neo won't be able to use any extra power.
Which means the mandated Neo mode is for all games to have access to Neo power, even if the developer doesn't do anything else with Neo
- Status