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[KAL2006]

That was so confusing....

are they saying playing pro games works like this:

1080p tv - increased visual effects and improved graphics, etc.

4k tv - No increased visual effects but runs at 4k HDR.

or


1080p tv - increased visual effects and improved graphics, etc.

4k tv - increased visual effects and improved graphics, etc. also runs at 4k HDR.

This

I'm confused with a 1080p TV I'm not planning to update would I get better graphics

 

[Moodz]

Man this silence about UHD player is confusing...
I can't believe they didn't put one in. They can't be that stupid.

Can they?

 

[BumRush]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

If true, no buy for me.

 

[EmSeta]

I need more details about enhancements for 1080p mode, and if they switched to a SATA3 bus. I'd MUCH rather have higher framerates and more details than just 4K support - even if I had a 4K tv. HDR sounds nice though, but I'm not gonna upgrade my tv just yet.

 

[MarineMountie]

Purchasing day 1! Well, will preorder as soon as its available. Ill check now to see if Amazon has it available.

I need Horizon at 1080 60fps.

 

[Hazanko]

What a ridiculously backhanded approach to selling TVs.

Yup, I like new gadgets but a TV really Isn't something I want to keep upgrading. I'm going to give this a miss.

 

[Falchion]

So $400? That's not bad, I'm just not sold that it's worth upgrading over my current PS4 though. If I was a new PS buyer, the pro route would be an easy decision though.

 

[The Emperor]

I guess the original 4.2tf figure.

Dayuum

 

[boredandlazy]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

That's fucking pathetic. Why the fuck not? Fucking cheap bustards.

 

[Pathfinder]

So they didn't mention UHD blu-ray... But surely it's included? So disappointed if it isn't...

It would be ridiculous if it doesn't play UHD/4K Blu-Ray, considering Xbox One S does...

EDIT: WHAT?!?!?

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

 

[Duxxy3]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

That can't possibly be true.

How the hell did they forget this?

 

[GasProblem]

Edit: Double post.

 

[family_guy]

No UHD, no buy. That would be incredibly dumb on their part if they didn't throw it in.

Yeah. I'd just buy an Xbox One S instead for UHD Bluray and keep my regular PS4.

 

[Forearm Star]

Yeap, trading in the old for the new as soon as possible for max gamestop creds.

A little annoyed i'll have to hold off on some titles until Nov but oh well.

 

[Deadstar]

Three hundred and ninety nine US dollars.

 

[Mathieran]

I think I'm gonna get it. If I trade in my ps4 for about 150 then I should only have to pay about 250. Would like to hear more about the benefits for 1080p owners though. Don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. An improved frame rate and downsampling would be good enough for me.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

This is absurd.

Fuck this

 

[LifEndz]

So no specs huh? I don't particularly care but I find it strange. Also does this have optical? (Something else I don't care about)

They showed the box this time but no specs. Sony gonna Sony.

 

[Jezbollah]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

Not surprising, tbh. Personally I'd prefer to stream 4k content and have the price at £349 than have the drive make the console cost x amount extra.

To be honest I thing this gen is the last with a media drive. Everything will be download next gen.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Purchasing day 1! Well, will preorder as soon as its available. Ill check now to see if Amazon has it available.

I need Horizon at 1080 60fps.

You mean you need Horizon with better foliage and draw distance at 30 fps.

 

[Bioshocker]

I'm very underwhelmed with what Sony showed tonight. A lot of great games coming, but they really didn't sell me on either the PS4 Slim or Pro. At all. At least Xbox One S was a big improvement in size.

I may have missed stuff here because I did other stuff while listening, but Sony said nothing about an improved DualShock 4? Really?

No, I'll stick with my standard white PS4. And hope for Scorpio.

 

[gofreak]

So I'm supposed to believe that 2x power can quadruple the fidelity?

They were pretty explicit about native ('brute force') rendering being a marginal option. That software techniques and 'other custom hardware' are being leveraged here to construct 4K buffers from other intermediates. So higher res e.g. 1800p+ and/or checker-board techniques etc etc.

The pitch is that all this is 'good enough' to deliver something impressively better on a 4K TV than a standard PS4 could provide.

Certainly given the price difference, if you want a better looking PS4 for your 4KTV, it's a no-brainer.

 

[Cels]

according to https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720 no 4k bluray support

don't get it when the $100 cheaper xbox one S supports 4k bluray

 

[Zabka]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

Are they insane

 

[MADGAME]

Thread moving fast, posting my question again.

Please answer this for me, GAF. I heard Cerny in say PS4 pro will deliver 4k and HDR on those sets, and the PS4 Pro will add additional effects, lighting, environmental density, etc on 1080p sets.

My question - Do you also get the additional effects allowed on the 1080p sets on the 4K sets? Or on the 4K sets is it one or the other?

 

[orioto]

No UHD bluray ? WTF that doesn't make any sense.. It should be the reason they do that in first place..

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Didn't that guy get permanently banned from GAF for posting fake info?

Try banned for a vendetta.

 

[Don.Abbade]

No 4K Blu Ray support

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

 

[Jarmel]

This was really underwhelming and the lack of specs indicates that Sony knows too.

How much better are the framerates or graphics? This press conference did nothing to sell me on the device.

 

[Spirited]

So what is actually take place?

If we have a 4K TV, and a regular PS4, the TV is upscaling the image to 4K - so what would the PS4 Pro offer in terms of improving the picture?

Preetty much fancy interlacing which will proabbly make it look like 4k most of the time but not quite the real deal.

 

[blastprocessor]

WTF Sony !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

 

[OléGunner]

Is UK price £350 for Pro?

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Yeah. Think I'll stick with my regular PS4 for a while. No one's mentioned a trade in program yet right? I'd probably be willing if I could get it for like $100 with a trade in.

 

[MaDKaT]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

Well, Im out. Probably ditch my PSVR preorder as well.

 

[Ragona]

i just wish it was up on amazon in germany. I dont wanna be late on the preorder train

 

[New002]

No UHD bluray support is the most wtf thing ever though...

Are we assuming this isn't in because it wasn't mentioned? I understand the logic....but damn do I want it to have a UHD drive, otherwise I'll have to pass.

 

[ViciousDS]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

WHAT!!!!!


wow, maybe I won't pre-order what the flying fuck

 

[Phreakuency]

Terrible decision to not have an UHD Bluray drive.

 

[Pooya]

The $100 cheaper xbox one s has a far weaker hardware...

 

[barneystuta83]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

Damn

 

[BFIB]

This felt kind of rushed? Sloppy design on the console too. If I am going to see improvements on 1080P I'm in, but it went from day one, to maybe holding out for Scorpio and an inevitable price drop.

 

[Veritigo_X]

No 4K blu rays would piss me off if I still watched movies on physical media.

 

[cakely]

$400 and November? Cheaper than I thought but, yep, I was absolutely certain it would launch this year. (phew)

There's a ton of crow to be eaten on GAF, some people should just dig right in.

 

[Novel Mike]

I'm not impressed, if you don't have a 4k TV (a majority of consumers) there really isn't much of a reason to get this thing (let alone upgrade if you already have one), I was expecting there would be some kind of new feature (HD support, backwards compatability, IDK SOMETHING!) but its all just graphic quality and with the money to buy a 4K TV and a PS4 Pro you could buy a 4k Monitor and a gaming PC and get better graphics out of that then what 4K can really do.

I didn't expect any big game reveals (not this close to TGS or PSX) but they could have had better games to show off besides freaking Shadow of Mordor of all things.

 

[Trago]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

I'm gonna need further confirmation, otherwise LOL. They done fucked up.

 

[N30RYU]

How can they give us a price... a release date... but not any spec at all other than the 1Tb HDD???

 

[Killthee]

So no led strip on the PS4 Pro? I think the original looks better.

It's in the front now.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PlayStationEU/status/773607848815321090/photo/1

 

[b0bbyJ03]

so was it playing those 4k games natively or was it upscaling them?

 

[Lighthouse]

https://twitter.com/StuffTV/status/773609999381790720

No 4K BD support

WTF if this true. How did Sony get it so wrong? I need a palette cleanser after that. Fuck.

 

[gamechanger87]

Wait.... Are you fuckin KIDDING ME?!

I mean if it was in there, they would have said it on stage. What ever they didn't say is because it was already leaked.