Not75Drops
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Forgot about Gen V lol, but that was intended to be sort of clean slate anyway. I thought Noivern was much shown much earlier, but it looks like it was actually announced for the anime a fair bit before its appearance.
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Pokémon Sun & Moon | Info and speculation thread
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Forgot about Gen V lol, but that was intended to be sort of clean slate anyway. I thought Noivern was much shown much earlier, but it looks like it was actually announced for the anime a fair bit before its appearance.
I really like this new rival.
He's not a rival, he's a Team Skull 'Enforcer' (so basically an admin)
chaobreaker
Member
Semantics. He's a kid your age that will probably get in the way of progress just like all the other asshole rivals.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You assume he'd act like that. We got young characters as enforcers in other games too like ORAS. He's plot relevant, but I doubt a rival.
I swear, the Pokemon fanbase twisted the word rival in their own meaning.
I think we can blame N for that, as he played the part of an antagonist and a rival.
Edit:I'm sure I'm not the first to see this but Wicke is one letter from Wicked. Do you think she will be the main villain?
Oh, absolutely.
Tierno, Trevor and Shauna are "rivals", but they aren't really rivals. Likewise, N is an actual rival, but he's not considered a "rival".
I'm not sure about Gladion. He reminds me of both Silver and N in a way. The former because I suspect he may have joined Team Skull to antagonize his relatives in Aether Foundation, and the latter because he seems like a Rival-class character, but used in a different story context. I guess we'll see. Maybe he eventually receives the starter that is stronger against the one the player chose.
UnemployedVillain
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You guys need tto get away from this old way of thinking and the older established roles NPCs played. They're clearly trying to mix things up here, even though we still have a "professor" role and that other kid, as well as an evil team. Although we now have 2 groups
chaobreaker
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I would bet my avatar that Aether corp are the true baddies all along.
Not75Drops
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The Jewel of Life stuff was only in the movie, wasn't it?
Yes it was, though I am of sound mind that Team Aether are the real villain and that Type: Null was a attempt to create Arceus.
The Arceus stuff is laughable in its attempt to connect the dots when no such connection really exists (the games never have any connections to the movies outside of events to the most current ones that don't affect the overall story, and the Arceus movie happened years ago). That said, I thought it was pretty obvious that they would be a second villain this time given that, traditionally, scientists that aren't the professor or people using science tend to be on or working with the main villains (Team Rocket with scientists in their ranks using radio waves, Team Magma/Aqua with the meteorite, Charon with Galactic, Colress and Plasma, Lysandre, etc.).
balladofwindfishes
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These "connections" to Arceus are super weak
Arceus will not be in this game in any capacity (besides being transferred from X/Y), and the design elements "taken" from Arceus are just coincidental and because Pokemon has a consistent style used through the series.
Arceus will not be in this game in any capacity (besides being transferred from X/Y), and the design elements "taken" from Arceus are just coincidental and because Pokemon has a consistent style used through the series.
Exterminieren
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That rock on Rockruff's front isn't pink in any of the media we've seen of it before. This looks like a Z-Crystal.
Maybe that's the evolution's secret?
Maybe Rockruff's gimmick is that it can use any Z-Move even without knowing a move of the corresponding type. I always found it odd that it's a Rock-type, but I'm thinking the association with...minerals may be linked to its connection with Z-Crystals.
Finale Fireworker
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Have we considered the possibility that Rockruff is indeed Arceus?
PhazonBlazer
Member
Arceus=God, what is God backwards?
Dog
Rockruff=Dog
Rockruff=Arceus
Checkmate atheists.
NeonZ
Member
The secret is supposed to be related to its evolution though.
brb making a 35 min youtube video to showcase this theory
Honestly I think that Rockruff has a connection with the Z crystal since the little rock diamond shape on the collar looks like Z crystals.
Plus there's this line;
Ha ha.
Don't forget use a clickbait thumbnail with a clickbait title, oh and make sure you act like a hyper kid hyped up on sugar.
I hope that supposedly werewolf evo is a great pokemon to use. It'd be a shame to get a pokemon werewolf and not have it be absolutely badass. Also, hoping that dragon we saw recently isn't the pseudo. I want more pseudos that aren't dragons, makes things more interesting.
Dark Cloud
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Sorry, but do you guys think CoroCoro will leak this weekend?
ColtraineGF
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If not this weekend, then definitely Monday/early Tuesday.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
not Tai and not Gabumon
Isn't Tyranitar the only exception? And even if it's not Dragon-Type, it's Godzilla-aesthetic definitely makes it fit in with the other 5... I guess we can count Volcarona as a pseudo-pseudo?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
A rock type who is fast and has great attack should make it viable at least
Metagross is the other exception.
"But Boss Doggie, I thought rock types are always supposed to be defensive!"
Oh yeah. Still, though, it's only 2 exceptions out of 8... Maybe 9 if we want to count Haxorus, but, like... do we really want to? I want something different, too, but Jangmo-O's definitely striking me as a pseudo. Maybe we'll get another one, though. Hoping for that long-faked Electric/Dark black hole, expecting nothing.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Tyranitar and Tyrantrum are far from defensive though, right?
Oh so Rockruff should evolve into a t-rex dog instead!
Oh so Rockruff should evolve into a t-rex dog instead!
Fulminator
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all i can see when i picture rockruff's evolution is zoroark except more doglike
PadWarrior
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Rockruff will evolve into a human.
Connections from the movie are definitely weak, but Type:Null almost definitely has a connection to Arceus. I doubt it will be touched upon too much in the story (because Aether trying to recreate a God is pretty dark), but Null sharing the 'wheel' can't be a coincidence. I mean, we already have lore that says Type:Null was created because they needed a Pokemon with the power of those from legends in order to complete a certain mission, so it's hardly a stretch to think that they moulded it after the most powerful one.
Null's body looking like a combination of types also kinda feels like an attempt at replicating Arceus' multitype ability. We'll find out for sure later, but it does feel like there is a connection.
Also its interesting that Aether Foundation's colors (white and gold) are two of Arceus' primary colors too.
MegaManTrigger
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Gonna be hella funny when Type:Null has zero backstory aside from what's in the Pokedex (like tons of other legendaries/regular Pokemon that the fanbase rumoured about in past gens). Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the connections to Arceus at all. Just using that spike example doesn't really come off as convincing especially when they don't look exactly the same.
Neoleo2143
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If chucking Pyukumuku into the sea gets a miniature sidequest based on its description on the site, the ending comment about Type-Null is interesting especially since they draw attention to it being Gladion's Pokemon and there's his seeming connection to both Lillie and Aether. If there wasn't anything unusual about it, and was just a Synthetic pokemon, it would be creepy but it's the why that interests everyone and the last line on the site specifically draws attention to that.
SenorArdilla
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Gabumon Digivolve to WereGarurumon.
While not a part of the storyline, the Regis did have a big connection from gen 3 to 4 in Regigigas.
And if ever there was a generation for bucking the trend, its this one, isn't it?
edit: Totally forgot about Zygarde too.
I'm imagining a giant, furry bodybuilder with a fluffy tail, and the exact same puppy face. I also foresee it permanently becoming Boss Doggie's Bara-vatar.
Maybe not before, but this game definitely seems to be shooting for a cohesive world for Pokèmon. Besides, Zygarde already has 5x more stuff going for him here than in his home Gen, and that's just from previews! I can definitely see Arceus playing a part here. Other legends, too!
I mean, gotta do something about all those Nugget Bridge Mews on the GTS, am I right?
I can see the Arceus connection. I mean it is as similar to Arceus as Mewtwo is to Mew. Even more so I would say. It has its defining ring feature and tries to emulate its ability gimmick by including many different types but that's about it.
I definitely think a Mewtwo of Arceus was the idea behind him.
I definitely think a Mewtwo of Arceus was the idea behind him.
KelpPlankton
Member
Rockruff having a closer tie to the Z-Stones than other pokemon as it's special 'thing' would be cool and make sense, with how much it's getting pushed right now. Might also be why we haven't seen it's evolved forms at all, if they change depending on what z-stone he has equipped.
Though I don't think that's the special thing he shares with the starters.
Fulminator
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idk, Gamefreak seems like they're trying to make Sun and Moon have more rpg elements to them, so I wouldn't be surprised if they tried out some wacky jrpg story. The Aether Foundation is bound to be doing something sketchy.
I won't buy the game if the evolution isn't this
So you guys think this is totally unrelated?
It's not the exact same shape, but is too similar to be a coincidence imo. And it not being the same shape isn't really a knock against it anyway - I doubt they had access to an actual Arceus, so of course it wouldn't be the same. It's like Mewtwo & Mew. When you factor in that we have concrete lore that this is a man made chimera designed to have the power of legends...I'd be very surprised if there isn't a connection.
entremet
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But that's Gen 4and Gen 6 call backs all in one game?
I just don't see it.
Unless the Aether Corp is some legendary/mythical scientific factory.
I just can't see the storyline fitting all these connections along with the Cover Legendary story, which is a given.
The Zygarde connection fits the "new universe" hinted in The Delta Episode, though, so a Gen 6 connection makes sense.
I'm not saying Type:Null is going to have anywhere near the focus of Solgaleo/Lunala/Zygarde. It clearly is involved in the story to some degree though, as Gladion appears to be involved with it somehow. And Gladion definitely looks related to Lusamine/Lillie btw (same hair colour and eyes), so there's another connection to Aether.
Either way, it's a chimera. They don't really need to explain where it came from any more than they already have, but I don't see why having subtle hints at it being based on Arceus would be too much? Since Gen IV we've been getting tons of Legendaries each game, and they generally manage to sprinkle some lore for each of them around the region. Again, I doubt they'll elaborate on where it came from in great detail (it is some pretty dark subject matter for kids), but I still maintain that the thing around Type:Null's neck resembles Arceus' torso wheel too much to be a coincidence.