Clinton has pneumonia

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My brother had pneumonia when we were kids. Scary stuff, wouldn't wish that on anyone. Hope she gets better soon, but I definitely don't expect her to actually get the rest truly needed due to the Press that would cause. :/
 
Cause that 9/11 you know the whole pneumonia thing?
It was bologna, was it the methadone ya think?
Or the hydrocodone you hide inside Bill's pornos
His VCR tape cases, with your Ambien CR
Great places to hide 'em, ain't it? So you can lie to Huma
I'm goin' beddy bye Chelsea baby, good night America!

Has this dumb joke been made yet? Are posters and pundits still being amateur doctors? Are we stuck with this story until the first debate? Barf.
 
Knoxcore said:
This whole episode just has me disgusted by the press. They are treating it like she is hiding some terminal disease. I mean give me a freaking break! If we lose this election it's solely because of the press. I firmly believe that now.
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I'm starting to agree. Between the tabloid-like headlines on Hillary, and no one calling Trump out on his shit, we're potentially fucked.
 
It's pneumonia?? Man that is scary. Makes you feel unbelievably lousy, how horrible to have that on the campaign trail.

I'm a big supporter of Hillary's and I have been for a long time but I do wish her team had gotten ahead of this better. It seems like what happened today was inevitable.

Feel better soon, Hillary.

Edit: man this really makes me wish she had not gone so safe with her VP choice. Tim is gonna have to pick up some slack. We'll see if he's up to it.
 
I've had it last summer. It really sucks. I was in the hospital for 10 days, and spent another 10 at home recovering. This is going to be twisted into something crazy, when the reality is she's just a human as susceptible to sickness as anyone else.

Unless, you know, IT'S ALL A COVER UP!
 
Lys Skygge said:
I'm starting to agree. Between the tabloid-like headlines on Hillary, and no one calling Trump out on his shit, we're potentially fucked.
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Trump and his surrogates get called out on shit all the time. Recently, they have been on his ass about the foundation stuff as well as his unwillingness to denounce his birtherism stance of the past, and his "bromance" with Putin. I grow more convinced by the day that few people actually follow what's being covered in this campaign.
 
cordy said:
On the real I don't think so, I think it's something they're trying to cover up. That's just me and my conspiracy theory though. Either way, that faint video was weird. Like some Weekend at Bernie's shit lol.
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A lot of people will think this. Timing is just so weird considering all the headlines about her health leading up to this. Literally the worst time not to just get sick but to get freakin pneumonia.

And some of the media will play on this at least till the debates
 
I wonder if she had already planned time off after 9/11 and was just trying to get through one more day... :/

It would have been political suicide to skip today's events unless she was literally dying.
 
echoshifting said:
I wonder if she had already planned time off after 9/11 and was just trying to get through one more day... :/
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I think this was probably the plan. They probably hoped she could just power through for the day (since not going to a 9/11 memorial would have been out of the question on the anniversary), but this episode forced their hand.

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Leona Lewis said:
Doubt it. She had campaign events scheduled for Monday and Tuesday until the last few hours.
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Oh yeah, that is right. Damn, was she planning to have these events fighting through pneumonia then? Holy shit. I admire the balls, but that really isn't very smart.
 
Lord Frieza said:
I think this was probably the plan. They probably hoped she could just power through for the day (since not going to a 9/11 memorial would have been out of the question on the anniversary), but this episode forced their hand.

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Oh yeah, that is right. Damn, was she planning to have these events fighting through pneumonia then? Holy shit. I admire the balls, but that really isn't very smart.
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Which makes me question the legitimacy of when she was diagnosed. Why in hell would you continue having a 68 year old on the campaign trail after being diagnosed with pneumonia? That seems incredibly idiotic.
 
Even if she recovers quickly and cleanly, this isn't going to go away. It's ammunition for so much anti-Hillary press and talking points, and it's close enough to carry towards the debates. Trump and his camp are most certainly going to ride the health issue, and he'd probably even use it during the debates (in jest or otherwise) to diffuse any real points she makes.
 
Dr. Feel Good said:
Which makes me question the legitimacy of when she was diagnosed. Why in hell would you continue having a 68 year old on the campaign trail after being diagnosed with pneumonia? That seems incredibly idiotic.
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I think it could be several things. Perhaps the actual severity of it wasn't thought to be bad and less straining activities such as the 9/11 memorial would be okay, but ended up not being. Or it could be just that Clinton is such a worker that she just wanted to try and power through. Which, as I said, is admirable in some ways, but not very smart overall.
 
Hope she recovers soon, but at least even in the worst case scenario she has a good backup in place.

Who becomes the VP during a race if one of the candidates die btw? It can't be the Speaker obviously, does it go to the new-Presidential candidate's choosing?
 
RaidenZR said:
Even if she recovers quickly and cleanly, this isn't going to go away. It's ammunition for so much anti-Hillary press and talking points, and it's close enough to carry towards the debates. Trump and his camp are most certainly going to ride the health issue, and he'd probably even use it during the debates (in jest or otherwise) to diffuse any real points she makes.
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I'm shocked he hasn't tweeted about it yet.
 
RaidenZR said:
Even if she recovers quickly and cleanly, this isn't going to go away. It's ammunition for so much anti-Hillary press and talking points, and it's close enough to carry towards the debates. Trump and his camp are most certainly going to ride the health issue, and he'd probably even use it during the debates (in jest or otherwise) to diffuse any real points she makes.
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Hillary's health has already been a talking point for Trump's campaign long before this, based on fringe conspiracy theories. As long as Hillary recovers quickly, it'll just remain another point for Trump that stems from alt-right nonsense that will only matter to the right. Trump will, undoubtedly, use this in the debates, but using it as a counter for literally everything isn't going to get him anywhere.

People are so underestimating to Hillary on the debates, and I really don't understand why. Are we back to thinking Trump is a political genius manipulating the system to his will again?
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Who becomes the VP during a race if one of the candidates die btw? It can't be the Speaker obviously, does it go to the new-Presidential candidate's choosing?
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Pennsylvania Governor Eric Baker.
 
Grisby said:
:/ yeah it can be real dangerous the older you are. Luckily, she's probably got top doctors looking after her.
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You don't want a "top" Doctor, you want a Doctor who see's this shit every day whilst looking after the poor and homeless. It's a massive cause of homeless illness with very little research done into prevention. Saying that she should be fine, many homeless people have underlying conditions and circumstances that exacerbate the situation. Still, not a pleasant disease.
 
echoshifting said:
I don't think it's inconceivable that they were waiting to cancel those events until she was done today so as not to tip their hand.
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And leave open the same potential for questions about why she canceled? No point.

The smart thing would've been to announce the pneumonia (and the requisite event cancellations) on Friday when she was diagnosed so she could actually recover properly.

They were playing with fire and got burned.
 
Lord Frieza said:
Trump and his surrogates get called out on shit all the time. Recently, they have been on his ass about the foundation stuff as well as his unwillingness to denounce his birtherism stance of the past, and his "bromance" with Putin. I grow more convinced by the day that few people actually follow what's being covered in this campaign.
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I try my hardest to stay informed. Sorry I'm not 100% up to date. Other than this Hillary drama, the last thing I paid attention to was that shameful Matt Lauer interview. At least he's catching some shit for that.
 
RaidenZR said:
Even if she recovers quickly and cleanly, this isn't going to go away. It's ammunition for so much anti-Hillary press and talking points, and it's close enough to carry towards the debates. Trump and his camp are most certainly going to ride the health issue, and he'd probably even use it during the debates (in jest or otherwise) to diffuse any real points she makes.
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Here's the thing, I don't think it's that simple.

Around 3 million Americans get pneumonia each year. Millions more get colds and the flu every year and still have to get up every day and go to work, take care of the kids, and fulfill everyday obligations despite being sick. This idea that you should never get sick, or that you should relax and stay in bed when you are sick is a reality millions of Americans have not experienced. It sucks, but this is a very humanizing moment for Hillary. She gets sick just like the rest of us humans.

Nobody who has ever gotten sick would like or be receptive to the idea that they are permanently incapable because of it.

If Trump attacks Hillary for getting pneumonia, he runs the very real risk of being painted as an out-of-touch bully without a heart. And you could be sure the Clinton campaign would go in full force with that narrative.

We'll see what happens tomorrow, but I somehow doubt that even Trump will touch this. At least, not in the heavy-handed way he usually does.
 
zorlaczerohero said:
You don't want a "top" Doctor, you want a Doctor who see's this shit every day whilst looking after the poor and homeless. It's a massive cause of homeless illness with very little research done into prevention. Saying that she should be fine, many homeless people have underlying conditions and circumstances that exacerbate the situation. Still, not a pleasant disease.
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What in the bloody hell are you talking about?
 
Lord Frieza said:
Hillary's health has already been a talking point for Trump's campaign long before this, based on fringe conspiracy theories. As long as Hillary recovers quickly, it'll just remain another point for Trump that stems from alt-right nonsense that will only matter to the right. Trump will, undoubtedly, use this in the debates, but using it as a counter for literally everything isn't going to get him anywhere.

People are so underestimating to Hillary on the debates, and I really don't understand why.
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Because Trump spews garbage at a podium and it just rolls off his back. Haven't you been paying attention? He's not going to engage Hillary with 1:1 facts and sense. That's not what works for him. With or without an audience present, his play is going to be one of "look at the crooked, feeble, soft lady". She's the dweeb and he's the party guy, and a huge chunk of America has been eating that up.

My imagination is telling me it will be like Bush / Gore v2.0, but x 100.
 
Leona Lewis said:
And leave open the same potential for questions about why she canceled? No point.

The smart thing would've been to announce the pneumonia (and the requisite event cancellations) on Friday when she was diagnosed so she could actually recover properly.

They were playing with fire and got burned.
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Sigh. Yeah. It's hard to disagree.

Man. This bums me out.
 
friday

fifth day of the week

5

married to bill, 4 letters in bill

5+4=9

pneumonia, 9 letters, hillary and trump running for president, thats 2 people

9+2=11

im just saying
 
Leona Lewis said:
And leave open the same potential for questions about why she canceled? No point.

The smart thing would've been to announce the pneumonia (and the requisite event cancellations) on Friday when she was diagnosed so she could actually recover properly.

They were playing with fire and got burned.
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Taking unnecessary risks is sort of the democrat MO. Election should be a layup at this point but there's always something.
 
royalan said:
Here's the thing, I don't think it's that simple.

Around 3 million Americans get pneumonia each year. Millions more get colds and the flu every year and still have to get up every day and go to work, take care of the kids, and fulfill everyday obligations despite being sick. This idea that you should never get sick, or that you should relax and stay in bed when you are sick is a reality millions of Americans have not experienced. It sucks, but this is a very humanizing moment for Hillary. She gets sick just like the rest of us humans.

Nobody who has ever gotten sick would like or be receptive to the idea that they are permanently incapable because of it.

If Trump attacks Hillary for getting pneumonia, he runs the very real risk of being painted as an out-of-touch bully without a heart. And you could be sure the Clinton campaign would go in full force with that narrative.

We'll see what happens tomorrow, but I somehow doubt that even Trump will touch this. At least, not in the heavy-handed way he usually does.
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Very good point, and like I mentioned earlier, it can make for some really good spin as well once she recovers. 'I knew I was sick, I knew I should have slowed down, but the election was too important, my opponent too dangerous and unqualified to potentially lead the country, I had to keep going.' If she can get up and out there in a quick pace, this could actually be used in a very positive light for her. The right will harp on until election day, but soft-leaning rights, moderates, and liberals will be more open.
 
RaidenZR said:
Because Trump spews garbage at a podium and it just rolls off his back. Haven't you been paying attention? He's not going to engage Hillary with 1:1 facts and sense. That's not what works for him. With or without an audience present, his play is going to be one of "look at the crooked, feeble, soft lady". She's the dweeb and he's the party guy, and a huge chunk of America has been eating that up.

My imagination is telling me it will be like Bush / Gore v2.0, but x 100.
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So, what, you think that Hillary is just going to stand there and do nothing? Have you ever seen her debate? Do you think Trump 'spewing garbage' is really going to help him? Do you think pressing hard questions that he can't answer from her is going to help him? Do you realize that the large chunk of America 'eating this up' still has Trump trailing significantly with only an actual slim chance of winning? Do you think Trump doing the same thing that's really not gotten him anywhere in the general election is going to start magically working now? Have you been paying attention?
 
Dr. Feel Good said:
Which makes me question the legitimacy of when she was diagnosed. Why in hell would you continue having a 68 year old on the campaign trail after being diagnosed with pneumonia? That seems incredibly idiotic.
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It is very odd. Pneumonia at 68 is no joke. AND she had campaign stuff planned for this week? Doesn't seem smart for the campaign (because she's hiding something) OR her health.
 
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