It happens in every misprice thread, people coming in saying that it's stealing because your taking advantage and not paying MSRP...etc.
Just ignore them because time and time again we've seen you can't win the argument with them.
Gears of War 4 coming free with Nvidia 1070 & 1080s through Oct 30
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Just ignore them because time and time again we've seen you can't win the argument with them.
Worse than piracy. Since in this case Amazon might be on the hook to nvidia or Microsoft for some of the money for the codes.
No, this is much worse than taking advantage of a price mistake. At least then you are buying something for the price being offered. Here, you are actually just defrauding the retailer and NVIDIA.
Arby 'n' the Chief
Member
if it was from the amazon glitch than sure it's stealing but other than that you're completely right.
It'd be like calling someone a thief for buying a digital code of The Last of Us or the Halo MCC from console bundles.
Those that did the purchase and cancel over and over again sure, those that bought a code on eBay no. No way of knowing if you bought a legitimate code or not.
I'm talking about the people that bought the cards and canceled them. And just doing it once is enough.
As for the people buying the codes, if you are actually ignorant of the situation you haven't really done anything wrong. If you knew what you were buying, then you knowingly bought goods attained though fraudulent means.
Agreed. I'm talking about the people who are getting the codes from Amazon and continuously reselling them. If the codes get revoked they've also defrauded everyone they've sold them to.
Yea we're on the same page.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Well, when I bought a code I thought this was a case of Arkham Knight Premium Edition. Seems like it is very different, buy I already redeemed it, so yeah. It's pretty shitty.
There is actually. The Amazon codes all began with GWNA. If the Nvidia code you bought from someone begins with GWNA, they're from Amazon. At least that's what I was told.
But what if some of those people actually bought the GPUs? That's what I meant.
Being willfully ignorant isn't the same as being ignorant. If you knew this fraud was happening, and then bought a cheap Gears code in the past day (especially from someone who had several), well, you probebly knew what you were doing was wrong.
This checks out. Mine began with GWNA. Honestly, I feel like the people who are in trouble are the sellers and not the people who bought the codes. They'll go after the guys who profited from this versus the people who bought a code via eBay or whatever.
More likely than not, anyone that legit bought the GPU wouldn't have sold that low, tbh. Even with the price errors, those eventually get fixed and the price jumps back up. That happened with RotTR and The Division, for example.
Fuck. The code I was given starts with that.
Mine too, paid $45. Seller assured me it was legit. I guess we'll see.
How will they even go after sellers? Not sure how they can track that.
For nvidia codes first part is just game and region.
GW = Game (Gears of War)
NA = Region (North America) (can also be EU, TA, HK, JP, etc.)
Second part of code might somes denote where code is from.
eg. ASUS for Asus codes for regions that get codes from GPU manufacturer instead of shop like EU/NA.
Sure, but the people that bought it prior to finding out about the glitch are okay in my book.
Ok, sure.
shanafan
Member
So always assume cheap digital codes are fraudulent? Not everyone buying on eBay are from GAF/Reddit.
Probably true. Other people said their legit keys didn't start with GWNA but nobody knew for sure. I'd still be suspect if you bought it within the last day or two for below $30 however, since most likely those came from the glitch.
That's not at all what I said.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
So how do we know that only the Amazon codes start with GWNA?
They don't. Pretty much all of them do.
They're not. Corpekata Said a few posts above his newegg code starts with the same thing.
Someone corrected me above. Apparently all of the Nvidia codes from NA retailers start with GWNA. So it's hard to know for sure. Best guess is if you bought it in the last day or two, it's probably from Amazon.
ah okay... sounds pretty iffy
ill just hold out for a good, legit price. im too busy at the moment to play anyway
thanks
Arby 'n' the Chief
Member
for mine after the GWNA it was UWQI
Mine was GWNA-KEGW.
Got it from Amazon.
Doesn't look like there's any indicator that it was from Amazon, just from NA.
Mine says GWNA - CEVO
Jawmuncher
Member
Xbox redeems code region free
I bought one from ebay the day the promo was announced for about the price most of these give-aways can go for when being sold, so I assume it was legit. I thought I was getting a good deal at half-off, so I'm ok with that since there was no sign of them being attained by an exploit, and I was thinking about getting it even before the promo was announced.
I can't imagine they have a way to invalidate anyone's already-redeemed keys. Seems like a lot of hoops among different parties to jump through, and it was essentially an Amazon goof. Might not be worth it depending on the number of codes.
I can't imagine they have a way to invalidate anyone's already-redeemed keys. Seems like a lot of hoops among different parties to jump through, and it was essentially an Amazon goof. Might not be worth it depending on the number of codes.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I just figured it was some small retail outfits that had paid for a bulk of them and were getting rid for a bit of a profit, or something. Can't say as I thought it through thoroughly.
Blam
Member
Unknown Soldier
Member
Nothing was ever done about the people who bought Rise of the Tomb Raider for $4 or whatever it was from the Ukraine around that game's launch. I doubt they'll do anything about the people who have already redeemed all the keys for this either.
jediyoshi
Member
It'd be pretty simple, no one who ordered on Amazon is supposed to have their key until the product ships anyway. And it's not like Amazon or Nvidia who supplied them don't have an exact record of Amazon's own stock of keys. And the Nvidia redemption used Microsoft's own redemption API, so they wouldn't have to do some crazy database matchup game.
If something happens, it'll be Microsoft's move. A similar thing happened with an Nvidia promotion for Dirt Rally with Steam keys on Newegg. Codemasters didn't do anything. Newegg gave out more keys after the fact, which was hilarious. And all Nvidia did was flip the switch saying to check for proof of purchase.
The only people who have gotten banned for Marketplace issues with Microsoft are a select few who took advantage of the Oman glitch 3 or so years ago, in that the Oman marketplace didn't even exist, so you had to navigate to it on a main account, switch to Oman, and it would show up as free.
The Fallout 4 was revoked as that was directly given by Microsoft, for free.
Rise of the Tomb Raider for £5 or whatever wasn't revoked.
They can't do a blanket ban on all people who have ordered and cancelled GTX cards in the past couple of days. Imagine if there was a legitimate reason - someone ordered one, then changed their mind or ordered it elsewhere. They get an e-mail, "Free Gears of War, cool!". It happens.
The game MAY get revoked, but that's it. Sucks for people who paid money for it, but the 'punishment' won't be harsher than that.
The Fallout 4 was revoked as that was directly given by Microsoft, for free.
Rise of the Tomb Raider for £5 or whatever wasn't revoked.
They can't do a blanket ban on all people who have ordered and cancelled GTX cards in the past couple of days. Imagine if there was a legitimate reason - someone ordered one, then changed their mind or ordered it elsewhere. They get an e-mail, "Free Gears of War, cool!". It happens.
The game MAY get revoked, but that's it. Sucks for people who paid money for it, but the 'punishment' won't be harsher than that.
That's if it works the way that we assume it works. NVidia didn't do it the way that one would think, just sending you out a code that you redeem on xbox.com. They redeemed it themselves. Now how that is setup can make it very hard or easy for NVidia.
They can have a 1:1 match from their code to a ms code in the database.
Or
They could have a code that just gives you access to take whatever key is at the top of a list without associating them and redeem it on your behalf. Funny enough, the reason why they asked to do stuff on your behalf is to make it easier and so that you can't see the code that they used to protect against piracy. It all depends on how it is coded.
But yes, I agree, that's a lot of hoops to go through.
Everything else they had that auto redeemed still had it's own key that was separate from the promotion one. So I don't think it's a 1:1 match.