Frustrated_me
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This sums up why I don't like her.
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Reluctantly voting for her.
Can someone explain what she's doing here? Save us any snarky or witty comment.
This sums up why I don't like her.
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Reluctantly voting for her.
Haha, I laugh every time I see this.
Absolutely ludicrous.
Implying she wouldn't appoint people like her in all positions, and get things done better.
Implying as a president she wouldn't have more power and authority then the head of a federal organization.
What exactly is fake here? I watched her do this live at the DNC, unless you are implying someone hacked the stream I was watching to make her look bad....which seems unlikely.
Can someone explain what she's doing here? Save us any snarky or witty comment.
Can someone explain what she's doing here? Save us any snarky or witty comment.
How would she not know about balloons falling and being a politician this long? Wait, I'm talking about her reaction seeming fake. She had to know that was coming. No way she didn't after being in the game this long.
How would she not know about balloons falling and being a politician this long? Wait, I'm talking about her reaction seeming fake. She had to know that was coming. No way she didn't after being in the game this long.
How would she not know about balloons falling and being a politician this long? Wait, I'm talking about her reaction seeming fake. She had to know that was coming. No way she didn't after being in the game this long.
Iraq war.
Seeing the balloons drop after her DNC speech.
Seeing the balloons drop after her DNC speech.
How would she not know about balloons falling and being a politician this long? Wait, I'm talking about her reaction seeming fake. She had to know that was coming. No way she didn't after being in the game this long.
Can someone explain what she's doing here? Save us any snarky or witty comment.
How would she not know about balloons falling and being a politician this long? Wait, I'm talking about her reaction seeming fake. She had to know that was coming. No way she didn't after being in the game this long.
You might be dead inside if you wouldn't react to thousands of balloons being dropped after you just gave an important speech.
For me personally, it's because I don't think her ideology and approach to policy (incrementalist tweaking, pushing "public-private" partnerships, arbitrary means-testing, American foreign policy exceptionalism, #imwithher rather than pushing for grassroots movements, etc.) would do enough to actually solve the root problems facing this country.
And if we're just speaking about pure optics and silly political horserace language, she's a terrible candidate by that standard. I always found it amusing that mainstream Democrats were going on and on about how Sanders saying something vaguely positive about Castro 30 years ago would have been a major scandal in a general election that would instantly doom us all to 8 years of Trump, but all the baggage (real or otherwise) that comes along with the Clintons would be no big deal at all ("people already know her!"). Even though all the evidence at the time (and the evidence now) has shown that to be false. And it seems like instead of just admitting that Clinton's baggage was always going to be a huge negative going into a general election where the electorate has mostly lost trust in the status quo (and there's nothing more status quo than a Clinton, lol), and figuring out ways to patch up those flaws, the mainstream of the Democratic Party would rather now just yell at people who don't immediately fall in line, and blame everyone else. And it's amusing when they yell at young voters, 3rd party voters, and non-voters about "privilege", when a large amount of those same groups are minorities and women. It's weird.
Her strength is quiet competence and a steady hand to keep the ship moving forward. Which is fine, and will probably be enough to win the election, but I don't think it's surprising to say that there's a lot of people out there in 2016 that want a bit more than that.the ship of American Empire, amirite?
For obvious reasons, she's better than pretty much any Republican, as is any mainstream Democrat (well, for some people. For a lot of the poor worldwide, they'll still be screwed just as they have been under any president or party), and of course she's an incredibly intelligent woman, but there's plenty of smart, intelligent, well-intentioned people who still support bad ideas that ultimately cause a lot of harm (see: the current president, or hell, even W.). And we've been doing the "but still, they're better than Republicans right?" thing for like 30 something years now, and while things have obviously improved in some ways, a lot of major problems have either stayed the same or have gotten worse. And depending on what issues an individual person prioritizes, that would affect their view of her or any other politician.
On a related note, none of this has anything to do with "purity" or whatever other strawman people usually bring up when someone doesn't like a mainstream Democrat. "Purity" is in the eye of the beholder. Democrats usually don't yell at people about "abortion rights purity" or "gun rights purity" because they know that's part of their base they need to win elections, even though that's no different about someone having purity about tuition-free college education or single-payer health care or any of the millions of issues that exist. Democrats often use "purity" arguments to punch anyone to the left of them, not because they somehow have a principled objection to the idea of purity. Literally every person has some issue that's of primary importance to them, so it's silly to criticize others for doing the exact same thing. If someone feels single-payer healthcare is the wrong policy for example, then just say that, rather than going on about "purity".
Of all things in this thread...a reaction to balloons was the nail in the coffin lol.
Of course there would be some sort of reaction, but that is an overreaction. Didn't even phase Bill and others. I just feel like she's trying too hard to come across as likeable.
Of all things in this thread...a reaction to balloons was the nail in the coffin lol.
The face she made when the balloons dropped was obviously a joke guys come on... She even has a big goofy "wowwwwwww"
She probably knew there will be balloons but that was a fuck ton of balloons. I would have reacted the same to be honest but with profanity.
I don't see that as grounds for disliking anyone unless you're really looking for any reason to hate someone.
Of course there would be some sort of reaction, but that is an overreaction. Didn't even phase Bill and others. I just feel like she's trying too hard to come across as likeable.
Because it's a ridiculous thing to dislike her for.
Of all things in this thread...a reaction to balloons was the nail in the coffin lol.
Because it's a ridiculous thing to dislike her for.
She's a dork... that's all it is. I get it because so am I.
Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
How would she not know about balloons falling and being a politician this long? Wait, I'm talking about her reaction seeming fake. She had to know that was coming. No way she didn't after being in the game this long.
Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
I assume you are joking? If not, you need to read a few books.
What?
count claude henri de saint simon spins violently in his grave
^ to above, i said that because her stance on foreign policy and big business. I really recommend people actually read the article I posted earlier. Hell I repost it https://theintercept.com/2016/03/13...-of-collaboration-with-gop-on-foreign-policy/
Time to read some ideology history. Not even Bernie was a socialist even though he declared himself as one.
We should be so lucky!
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Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
I think it was the indoor fireworks, actually. Honestly both were impressive, people were drowning in balloons, and I'd have a similar reaction. Girl can't even be exuberant. She doesn't smile, and she's cold, she does smile and she's fake. Clinton can't catch a break...
Edit: I swear to god, I thought the DNC was trying to be the first to attempt death by balloons.
Everybody loves balloons. If you gave me a balloon right now I'd probably start playing with it, regardless of setting.
Its just a pretty clear indication that some people will think that even her breathing is manufactured.
Maybe she naturally does goofy exaggerations to response to outlandish and crazy, but not serious situations? That whole 'seizure' evidence video with the reporters backs that up. Or is that another manufactured thing? Hell, the whole shimmy at the debate backs that up. Or are you going to claim that that was manufactured as well?
Does she say and do things because of politics and polling? Yes, every politician does. She just does it rather poorly and it comes off as bad. She lacks charisma and the ability to really inspire people and get them emotionally involved. Therefore, when she does things that are clearly meant to inspire and motivate in just comes off as fake, and she can't hide the polling based rhetoric and actions as well as other politicians as result as well.
This is the thing that baffles me so much. She is definitely no saint, and has done a lot of things that (while maybe not illegal) rub people the wrong way, yet you aren't allowed to dislike her even a little bit or you are sexist or a trump supporter. It's possible to vote for her because she is the lesser of two evils, and still think she is a pretty unlikable human. If she was so likable, the race wouldn't even be close.
Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
Question is why is Hilary supporters mad that people dont like her.
Most everything you say is a half truth, exaggeration, or whatever. How many times can you remember where you stated a fact, to look it up and realize it's dead fucking wrong? I can't count the number for me. Human memory is faulty, and we're prone to not be truthful all the time, whether it is intentional or not.
Of course there would be some sort of reaction, but that is an overreaction. Didn't even phase Bill and others. I just feel like she's trying too hard to come across as likeable.
this is incredibly fair. however, when we're talking about people we are giving tremendous amounts of power and trust to, that are supposed to be experts in their fields, and they KNOWINGLY mislead people more often than not? The excuses they come up with sometimes are just mind boggling.
and, on the other hand, if they truly don't know, and are spreading lies as fact? that's just as bad. neither have a place in our system. Yet that's what it's comprised of, and it shows :\.
Bill goes apeshit for the balloons like every time
I'm pretty sure there's a video from the convention of him grabbing a balloon out of a little girls hands lol
People can get excited over balloons