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Politico: Paul Ryan will repeal Obamacare, defund Planned Parenthood if Trump wins

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This article was from yesterday but was just linked to me this morning. It's all through the magic of reconciliation.

If Donald Trump is elected president and Republicans hold onto Congress, House Speaker Paul Ryan is bluntly promising to ram a partisan agenda through Capitol Hill next year, with Obamacare repeal and trillion-dollar tax cuts likely at the top of the list. And Democrats would be utterly defenseless to stop them.

Typically, party leaders offer at least the pretense of seeking bipartisanship when discussing their policy plans. But Ryan is saying frankly that Republicans would use budget reconciliation — a powerful procedural tool — to bypass Democrats entirely. It’s the same tool Republicans slammed Democrats for using to pass the 2010 health care law over their objections.

While GOP leaders have made empty threats to use reconciliation to repeal Obamacare in the past, Ryan is making it clear that this time he plans to use it when it counts. And he would likely have support from a Trump White House. Larry Kudlow, an economic adviser to the GOP presidential nominee, said he is also strongly urging Trump to embrace reconciliation in order to pass sweeping tax cuts.
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The GOP-controlled Congress passed a reconciliation bill last year that would repeal key parts of the health law, including effectively eliminating the individual and employer mandates and scrapping the Medicaid expansion, insurance subsidies for consumers and the medical device and Cadillac taxes. The bill was promptly vetoed by President Barack Obama, but it would serve as a road map to Republicans in 2017. The reconciliation process relies heavily on precedent, so now opponents of Obamacare already know what can pass muster with the Senate parliamentarian. Notably, the bill also defunded Planned Parenthood for one year, in a sign of how expansive a reconciliation bill can be.

Other pieces of Ryan’s “Better Way” policy agenda that could find their way into a reconciliation measure are controversial proposals to bring down the costs of Medicare and Medicaid or overhaul the food stamp program and housing assistance for low-income renters. Every line of the bill would face scrutiny from Democrats, but a skilled procedural tactician could overcome most parliamentary challenges.
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“I’m tired of divided government. It doesn’t work very well,” Ryan said last week. “We’ve gotten some good things done. But the big things — poverty, the debt crisis, the economy, health care — these things are stuck in divided government, and that’s why we think a unified Republican government’s the way to go.”
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Nevermind the fact the ACA is working great for states that didn't refuse the Medicaid expansion and Planned Parenthood has been proven to do nothing wrong, but don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.
 
What a sad man. Who cares what he thinks. The man basically said Trump made racist statements about the judge, but voting him anyway. That says a lot about your character. Great that Trump isn't going to win, therefore you won't be able to do jack shit.
 
Is he trying to sink Trump? Those are very unpopular decisions. They'll get the base excited, sure, but they're not mainstream positions; especially defunding PP
 
“I’m tired of divided government. It doesn’t work very well,” Ryan said last week. “We’ve gotten some good things done. But the big things — poverty, the debt crisis, the economy, health care — these things are stuck in divided government, and that’s why we think a unified Republican government’s the way to go.”
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Hey look at this historic legislation that brought healthcare to millions of needy families around the country for the first time. It was even based on our party's ideas.

But we don't like it because of reasons (we're racist and completely self-absorbed) so let's just blow up the whole thing instead of actually working to improve it going forward. That sounds like a really smart idea.


Very glad trump is about to get his shit kicked in. Ryan and his ilk should be ashamed of themselves. Dunno how they sleep at night after selling their souls out to push the party line vote.
 
Here's the Senate seats up for election in 2018:
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Lots of Dems defending seats in red states.

Even if Dems take the Senate this year, it looks likely to flip back with 2018's Republican-friendly map. The only thing that may stop them from having all three branches over the next four years (and SCOTUS for decades) is Hillary Clinton.
 
The next time the Dems are in control of both houses the should respond in kind by going all out on liberal policies instead of trying to appeal to Republicans at all.
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
Is he trying to sink Trump? Those are very unpopular decisions. They'll get the base excited, sure, but they're not mainstream positions; especially defunding PP
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This is Ryan's true ideology: Fuck You Got Mine small government

Trump is too "socialist" for the Paul Ryan types, but he selected Mike Pence

Republicans could quickly impeach Trump and replace him with Pence
 
Hopefully Democrats and reasonable Republicans in this country will realize that the next step to progress after electing Clinto will be to vote these fucktards out of their congressional seats. They have no interest in bettering the lives of average Americans.
 
“I’m tired of divided government. It doesn’t work very well,” Ryan said last week. “We’ve gotten some good things done. But the big things — poverty, the debt crisis, the economy, health care — these things are stuck in divided government, and that’s why we think a unified Republican government’s the way to go.”
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I agree completely with him right up until that last bit.

It's almost like the way Trump projects his flaws onto Clinton, isn't it?
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
Is he trying to sink Trump? Those are very unpopular decisions. They'll get the base excited, sure, but they're not mainstream positions; especially defunding PP
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How unpopular really though. That got a quack job running for president, but theyve been hating on PP for years yet they still own congress because most people vote for them in key states
 
What is their alternative to the ACA?

If you are going to repeal it you need to have an alternative for the millions of people who were able to get insurance via it.
 
bionic77 said:
What is their alternative to the ACA?

If you are going to repeal it you need to have an alternative for the millions of people who were able to get insurance via it.
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Trump said and I'm quoting "Replace it with something great." Nothing more. He doesn't have a clue what he would do about anything.
 
bionic77 said:
What is their alternative to the ACA?

If you are going to repeal it you need to have an alternative for the millions of people who were able to get insurance via it.
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They've yet to actually provide a decent alternative option but it probably wouldn't look too different from what Obama presented originally. The only reason these fucks push so hard to repeal the ACA every year is because it came from him, the first black president, and not them, the "real American" party.
 
I sincerely believe that repealing Obamacare would be suicide for the Republican Party. Without an alternative I don't think there is a legitimate way to defend that move.
 
Saint Gregory said:
Hopefully Democrats and reasonable Republicans in this country will realize that the next step to progress after electing Clinto will be to vote these fucktards out of their congressional seats. They have no interest in bettering the lives of average Americans.
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"Reasonable" Republicans like Paul Ryan.
 
HylianTom said:
Here's the Senate seats up for election in 2018:


Lots of Dems defending seats in red states.

Even if Dems take the Senate this year, it looks likely to flip back with 2018's Republican-friendly map. The only thing that may stop them from having all three branches over the next four years (and SCOTUS for decades) is Hillary Clinton.
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If Hillery wins (and she probably will) I'm sure the Dems will take the Senate.
 
Torokil said:
hillary best pick some damn good sc justices because this guy is probably gonna become president in 2020/2024
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Yup.

If she wins Senate and SCOTUS, it'll be great insurance for when the GOP controls everything again. They'll be able to enact their agenda, but it'll be handcuffed by a liberal judiciary. Anything that goes too far will be challenged.

I'm especially thinking of when redistricitng happens again. The liberal wing of the court has shown no hesitation in striking-down ridiculous maps.
 
But but but he's supposed to be Rational Pragmatic Statesman Paul Ryan, The Only Adult in the Room

If y'all didn't already know what he really is, now you know
 
Torokil said:
hillary best pick some damn good sc justices because this guy is probably gonna become president in 2020/2024
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Well, let's say maybe. A lot can happen in 4-8 years, and as this election cycle has proven (and how 2008 proved before), the sure thing looking forward is not always what will happen.
 
The ACA as is is a complete abomination. That said, I have exactly zero faith this Republican party would pass something better.
 
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