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Why are Popplio's line's names being made into convoluted messes by the community?

this is what Bulbapedia says for Popplio

???

It's Pop (as in popping a bubble) + Lion (as in sea lion), with the N cut off. It really doesn't need to be any more complex than that

And Brionne is even more ridiculous


Or it could be Brine + Lion, with lion spelled "fancy" because the name Brion just looks weird as a Pokemon name. It's not like Pokemon names haven't spelled the animal part of their name wrong or fancy before...

I agree with Popplio's, but pronouncing Brionne that way would kind of sound like "Brian" lol.

Also, some Gen VII Pokemon use Hawaiian words in their names, like Jangmo-o and Tapu Koko.
 
It's not pronounced Brian? I've been calling it that since it was announced

Also, even if the root is lion, it doesn't mean it's pronounced -ion. Blastoise isn't Blast-us. despite the oise being from tortoise.
 
Let's give the localizers some credit here, Pokemon names are often more detailed than they appear. Every time the community tries to name a Pokemon (Smugleaf, Roothoot) they just jam two words together.

They're not all winners though.

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Magmortar isn't as interesting, being "Booburn" which is mostly a reasonable name, and could have been the name of a Ghost/Fire Pokemon and nobody would have bat an eye
 
Why are Popplio's line's names being made into convoluted messes by the community?

this is what Bulbapedia says for Popplio

???

It's Pop (as in popping a bubble) + Lion (as in sea lion), with the N cut off. It really doesn't need to be any more complex than that

And Brionne is even more ridiculous


Or it could be Brine + Lion, with lion spelled "fancy" because the name Brion just looks weird as a Pokemon name. It's not like Pokemon names haven't spelled the animal part of their name wrong or fancy before...

The one that annoyed me last gen was Sylveon. People were like "it's probably a flying type because sylphs are a type of wind spirit," but sylv is it's own thing meaning "forest" (sylvan, Transylvania, Pennsylvania) and is associated with fairies (forest folk). Sylvanus was the Roman god of the woods (Pan) which tied into fairy mythology in Europe
 
The one that annoyed me last gen was Sylveon. People were like "it's probably a flying type because sylphs are a type of wind spirit," but sylv is it's own thing meaning "forest" (sylvan, Transylvania, Pennsylvania) and is associated with fairies (forest folk). Sylvanus was the Roman god of the woods (Pan) which tied into fairy mythology in Europe

There was that and bug type going around.
 
I like Bulbasaur's "Fushigidane" which literally translates to "It's wonderful right?"

As in, Bulbasaur's original name is "Sh*t's weird yo lol"

no more like "it's mysterious, right?"

English names suck, the French names got it right, Bulbizarre. Has the grass name AND the Japanese pun.
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

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no more like "it's mysterious, right?"

English names suck, the French names got it right, Bulbizarre. Has the grass name AND the Japanese pun.

I just realized something.

While this might be a bit reaching, i think the pun is "hidden" in the German name "Bisasam" too.


While the first two parts of the name "Bi" (coming from two) and "sa" (coming from saur as in dinosaur), have nothing to do with it, it's "sam" that made me curious.

the "sam" is genreally seen as meaning "Samen" (seed in english), however, while reading the posts about the pun in Bulbasaurs japanese name, the word "wundersam" (meaning wonderous/mysterious in english) came to my mind.

And while by itself it isn't saying much, since it's pretty sure that "sam" comes from "Samen", i noticed that "Bisasam" has one similarity with "wundersam", that it doesn't share with "Samen". What it is it?


Syllables

Just as "Bisasam" is seperated in three syllables with the last one ending in sam ("Bi"-"sa"-"sam"), "wundersam" does the same ("wun"-"der"-"sam").

Now, some could be thinking "Isn't it just a coincidence that Bulbasaurs german name shares the the same number of syllables and the same ending as the german synonym for mysterious?"

To that i answer: "Is it really though?"

Every version of Bulbasaurs name has either the pun in it or describes it's appearence. There's only one language that adds something else. German with the "Bi" at the beginning that means "two". What does that mean? The german Pokéwiki says that it should symbolize the symbiosis between a reptile and a plant.
And while sure, that does work as an explanation, i'd say it is also added as third syllable, to complete the similarity with "wundersam", since there was no way to add that word into Bulbasaurs name otherwise.

TL;DR: Bulbasaurs german name has similarities with one of the german words that can be used for mysterious, thus incorporating the japanese origin of the name.
 
Well, it has the "English exoticness" in it.

Still you got gems like Ghos (Gastly) -> Ghost (Haunter) -> Gangar
 
The Japanese bird names are like if they were called Congelar, Relampago, and Fuego in English. Those suck too, but there's the exoticness that would cause some to defend them. I feel like Ghos -> Ghost was an issue with how katakana works. While the words "Gas" and "Ghost" would seem like easy things to fuse in Japanese, in English it just appears like you named it the same thing twice without one letter, much like how one would view Abra -> Kadabra without knowing what it references. At least it isn't Skarmory's Japanese name which is effectively "Airmd", could be Air + Armored or Air + Armed, nobody knows for sure.

Not going to defend Thunder and Thunders though, they're not even related.
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

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I could see it for one pokemon. Wasn't there a leak about a cat pokemon that got a secondary type with breeding? Whether or not that ends up being true, that could be a fun way to do something along those lines.
 
Why are Popplio's line's names being made into convoluted messes by the community?
I pronounce it Pop + Leo. Which still makes sense as 'leo' fits the Lion theme. Plus I think it sounds much better to say than Pop + Lie + oh.

Actually...Lion isn't even pronounced Lie + Own. It's Lie + on. So if we're copying the pronunctions of the base words to a T, you should be saying Pop + Lie + aw.
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

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I've always really liked this idea. With sprites it'd be relatively unfeasible, but perhaps with models it might be a bit easier.
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

The hybrid stuff is pretty popular in fanart (as is the fusion one). I really do like the idea. Maybe after this generation.

Also I love the potato one.
 
According to serebii, the name for Aggron in japanese is Bossgodora, add the mega form for that and you got mega Bossgodora, should definitely be a bit stronger then it's right now!
 
I could see it for one pokemon. Wasn't there a leak about a cat pokemon that got a secondary type with breeding? Whether or not that ends up being true, that could be a fun way to do something along those lines.

Yeah, and it was from one of the leaks that seem to be mostly legit (mentioning the monkey, sea cucumber, mushroom, etc.) so we'll probably see it soon.
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

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Oh my god, Late Bloomer. Im gonna die.

My Little Chikorita Cant Be This Cute
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

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I want Weeping Hollow so badly.

Like this would redeem the everliving shit out of the Chikorita line.
 
I've always really liked this idea. With sprites it'd be relatively unfeasible, but perhaps with models it might be a bit easier.

I could see it:

A) Only working for set Pokemon, most likely the most popular ones.
B) It being randomly generated in a sense, so it'd either take on a colour (unlikely with shinies), or have a small physical quirk (e.g. Red spikes on your Munchlax from breeding with a Feraligatr) which are strategically placed on each model. Wouldn't be as good as option A).
 
I need the Royal and Snow Radish Chikoritas in my life.

Adding the Snivy-line's traits to all of the other grass starters would be glorious... GLORIOUS!
 
The Chinese Riddler strikes.

Today’s post is about the Chinese Riddler who has recently teased information about the evolution of Salandit, one of the Pokémon revealed this summer. They have said that it will relate to one of four characters: a kyūbi (9-tailed fox), Cleopatra, the gorgons or a siren. The below image was included in his post:

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In the description of Salandit, many fans noticed that it mentioned females being able to produce pheromones capable of attracting males of any species, Pokémon and human alike.

See any resemblance to one of those in its appearance or lore? Post your sleuthing and theories down in the comments!

In addition they stated that we do not know everything about the Alolan starters, even after seeing their second evolutions and the leaked third stages. Mysterious!

Siren? They lure people with their voice. Though Popplio3 has a siren/mermaid thing going on. And I'm not sure how you go from salamander to siren. And more starter teasing. I hope their secret is something good, and not split evolutions.

Also I've been fiddling with XY recently and completed the Pokedex minus four mythicals. My last Pokemon was Slowking. I had two Slowkings basically stolen from me in random trades before someone realized what I wanted. YOU BETTER BELIEVE SHE GOT AN O POWER.
 
So just came across this fan idea of hybrid breeds. The idea being a Squirtle is always a Squirtle, but takes on ancillary aspects of Pokemon it breeds with, like dogs. Would be pretty unfeasible given the amount of Pokemon, but a really neat idea to make breeding more desirable.

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I've always really liked this idea. With sprites it'd be relatively unfeasible, but perhaps with models it might be a bit easier.

I've had thoughts about this previously, and while you could never get the level of differences shown above I think you could still have a system like this:

There would be a list of rare genetic traits pokémon can have, with any individual species having access to a small selection. They'd mostly be texture changes, e.g. masked, spotted, piebald, albino, plus dwarf and giant which would be simple scale changes, with maybe a few ones with actually different models, such as lop-eared, stub-tailed or long-haired. These traits would of course be purely cosmetic.

Either some species would naturally possess these traits (riolu - masked, buneary - lop eared, etc.), or you could on occasion find pokémon with the traits in the wild. You could then breed them across species, so breeding a male lucario with a female raichu would have a good chance to get you a masked pichu.

It's not as exciting as most of the cross breed fanart, but I think it's actually doable from a dev point of view.
 
There's a new cat every gen right?
Gen II is a stretch but apart from that. Cat (usually normal type) is a trend:
Gen I - Meowth - Scratch Cat. Persian - Classy Cat (Siamese Cat in Japan)
Gen II - none though Raikou resembles a saber tooth.
Gen III - Skitty - Kitten. Delcatty - Prim (is Prim & Proper in Japan)
Gen IV - Glameow - Catty. Purgly - Tiger Cat (Beguiling in Japan)
Gen V - Purrloin - Devious. Liepard - Creul.
Gen VI - Litleo - Lion Cub. Pyroar - Royal.
Gen VII - Litten, Torracat - Fire Cat. Alolan Meowth (again Scratch Cat) and Persian.

Speaking of the normal type. Raikou is not, Purrlion and Liepard are Dark, Litleo and Pyroar are dual type Fire/Normal, Alolan Meowth is pure dark type and Litten and Torracat are pure fire (look forward to Cheetaman being Fire/Normal...you said you didn't want Fire fighting for the 7th time...)

Speaking of why does the Pokedex have categories that are usually based on real animals. It's all a bit: https://xkcd.com/890/
 
Gen II is a stretch but apart from that. Cat (usually normal type) is a trend:
Gen I - Meowth - Scratch Cat. Persian - Classy Cat (Siamese Cat in Japan)
Gen II - none though Raikou resembles a saber tooth.
Gen III - Skitty - Kitten. Delcatty - Prim (is Prim & Proper in Japan)
Gen IV - Glameow - Catty. Purgly - Tiger Cat (Beguiling in Japan)
Gen V - Purrloin - Devious. Liepard - Creul.
Gen VI - Litleo - Lion Cub. Pyroar - Royal.
Gen VII - Litten, Torracat - Fire Cat. Alolan Meowth (again Scratch Cat) and Persian.

Speaking of the normal type. Raikou is not, Purrlion and Liepard are Dark, Litleo and Pyroar are dual type Fire/Normal, Alolan Meowth is pure dark type and Litten and Torracat are pure fire (look forward to Cheetaman being Fire/Normal...you said you didn't want Fire fighting for the 7th time...)

Speaking of why does the Pokedex have categories that are usually based on real animals. It's all a bit: https://xkcd.com/890/
You are missing Espurr and Meowstic. And I don't think Litleo or Pyroar really count, yes they are technically cats, but in the case of Purrloin to Liepard it started out as a cat and then became a leopard, whereas Litleo and Pyroar are obviously lions the whole time.

Espurr and Meowstic are the Gen VI cats
 
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