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Pokémon Sun & Moon | Info and speculation thread

Yeah I have a feeling they didn't have access to it during the preview session. There's no way they would straight up remove that without some sort of replacement because it made finding specific Pokémon actually possible.

Then again they've taken away nice features before so...
 
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GX cards so far are fantastic. The layout works very well with 5ban Graphics's style. I always thought that his artwork felt a bit too "restrained" in smaller, less dynamic frames. Incidentally, Lycanroc's design stands out in a very positive way in 3D. Feels unreal that after six generations and 721 Pokémon there still hadn't been a Wolf Pokémon (well, Lucario aside :p), but they really delivered with this one. Simple, yet effective.
 
DexNav being gone wouldn't surprise me at all, I doubt they're gonna let people have access to wild Pokemon with egg moves and stuff right off the bat in the generation.
 
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Is it possible that it's a post-game item? I would be fine with that... But no Dexnav at all would be really sad :/

It's possible they give it to you later on or it wasn't available for the demo. I wouldn't put it past Game Freak to remove a good addition like they have in the past but this one seems like it would stick given its XY sort of predecessor, plus the more competitive-friendly design Sun/Moon has showcased.

Anyway, since we're talking teams, here's the one i've thinking of thus far:

Rowlet
Salandit
Jangmo-O
Vikavolt/Tapu Koko (it depends on if TK is a legendary or not)
Wimpod

Considering:
Pikkipek - Depends on if Fly is needed or if we have something akin to Latios/as from Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
Alolan Marowak/Ninetales - Depends on how much/if they're different beyond types and moves
 
Yeah I have a feeling they didn't have access to it during the preview session. There's no way they would straight up remove that without some sort of replacement because it made finding specific Pokémon actually possible.

Then again they've taken away nice features before so...

It's probably not going to come back. There's no reason not to mention it even so close to release. I feel lucky that we even got trainer customization back.

Maybe there will be another way to get HAs.
 
Ok so looking at the most recent Chinese Riddler compilation image from the last update:

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Notice how there is a staff next to Jangmo-O that looks very similar to its final evolution's tail. Could that be what it was referring to?

Though also notice there is no Grimer in the lower section, same with Rattata. Does that mean these Pokemon are in the game, yet DON'T get Alolan forms? What does the faded mean then? THE RIDDLES

Wait.. Is that the confirmed final evolution of Litten? :| :| :| :| :| :| My fear that they'd put it on 2 legs came true...? :/
 
Wait.. Is that the confirmed final evolution of Litten? :| :| :| :| :| :| My fear that they'd put it on 2 legs came true...? :/

Not confirmed, but it's looking increasingly likely that the old leak that image comes from is legit. So far, nothing has disproven it and new official details only point to it further.
 
Wait.. Is that the confirmed final evolution of Litten? :| :| :| :| :| :| My fear that they'd put it on 2 legs came true...? :/

you need to be bipedal to smash tables on faces, snap your opponent's spine, and be the champion of the people
 
The confirmation of no DexNav in Sun & Moon is a huge hit on my hype for the game. I wonder what the means for rematching trainers? My fears of Sun & Moon going back to stadiums and cafes for rematching trainers is slowly creeping up on me.

Hopefully they'll show of a feature similar to the DexNav, just with a different name. So far, the new features that they've shown for Sun & Moon have been disappointing.
 
DexNav always felt like a step too far to me; I thought that DPPt's Pokeradar was more than enough. Being able to force specific encounters just... I guess robbed a little magic from the series?
 
I mean DexNav isn't totally deconfirmed is it? It's entirely possible it's just not available from the get-go. With all the new features and adjustments that are immediately available, they probably didn't want to smother the players.
 
The confirmation of no DexNav in Sun & Moon is a huge hit on my hype for the game. I wonder what the means for rematching trainers? My fears of Sun & Moon going back to stadiums and cafes for rematching trainers is slowly creeping up on me.

Hopefully they'll show of a feature similar to the DexNav, just with a different name. So far, the new features that they've shown for Sun & Moon have been disappointing.

GameXplain just put out a video talking about how you'll be able to seek out trainers for rematches. I wouldn't worry on that score.
 
DexNav was fun, but I got too obsessive compulsive about it and honestly stopped using it pretty early on. It being out is no big loss to me, but I do hope they have some interesting method of fishing out rarer Pokemon in specific areas. I thought perhaps RotomDex would have a similar feature, but we haven't heard much about it since it was revealed and it seems to be your standard PokeDex + quest markers and info.
 
So our "Riddler" suggested Jangmo-O was a 2-stager and Type:Null didn't evolve at all. I asked this before, but because I never got a clear answer: Why do we trust them again?
 
Dude, that thing was leaked MONTHS ago.

K gurl time to calm down. Sorry I don't necessarily have time to keep up with every little update that happens, mmk? Next time just answer the question. :). Thanks.

Not confirmed, but it's looking increasingly likely that the old leak that image comes from is legit. So far, nothing has disproven it and new official details only point to it further.
Wah.. Looks like I might not be #teamlitten after all :'(. I loved the second evolution from the trailer. It's too bad! Might end up turning to the grass starter instead!

you need to be bipedal to smash tables on faces, snap your opponent's spine, and be the champion of the people

Hahahahaha I guess that's probably the rationale behind it, huh? :P I'm just tired of the weird tradition they seem to have of making them bipedal after being on all fours (eg. Typhlosion).
 
So our "Riddler" suggested Jangmo-O was a 2-stager and Type:Null didn't evolve at all. I asked this before, but because I never got a clear answer: Why do we trust them again?

riddler doesn't dictate how many evos it has, just positions
riddler suggested exactly what Jangmo-o is (monk, the monk staff was very specific), as well as other specific hints (Oranguru for one)
stop with this meme, the only false leaker was the guy who keep saying #don't believe leaker in twitter who got BTFO'd

EDIT: also apparently riddler did say before hand that there's "an exploding alpaca"



Hahahahaha I guess that's probably the rationale behind it, huh? :P I'm just tired of the weird tradition they seem to have of making them bipedal after being on all fours (eg. Typhlosion).

As long as the lore and idea is great, I don't really care about bipedal or quadrupedal, so it works :P

I can't wait to watch the Hawlucha vs Luchalitten
 
K gurl time to calm down. Sorry I don't necessarily have time to keep up with every little update that happens, mmk? Next time just answer the question. :). Thanks.

Wait.. Is that the confirmed final evolution of Litten? :| :| :| :| :| :| My fear that they'd put it on 2 legs came true...? :/

are you... okay?

or do you just lack self-awareness?

EDIT: also apparently riddler did say before hand that there's "an exploding alpaca"

i don't see how that helps proving that they're legit tho
 
riddler doesn't dictate how many evos it has, just positions
riddler suggested exactly what Jangmo-o is (monk, the monk staff was very specific), as well as other specific hints (Oranguru for one)
stop with this meme, the only false leaker was the guy who keep saying #don't believe leaker in twitter who got BTFO'd

EDIT: also apparently riddler did say before hand that there's "an exploding alpaca"

What meme? This is like that GiIvaSunner thread all over again...

But yeah. I couldn't recall the "Riddler" having anything right so far. Heck, I'm still having trouble seeing the monk connection.
 
What meme? This is like that GiIvaSunner thread all over again...

But yeah. I couldn't recall the "Riddler" having anything right so far. Heck, I'm still having trouble seeing the monk connection.

He's gotten several things right actually. That's why people believe in his leaks.

Better than lacking basic social skills.

Ah yes, using capitalization for emphasis, the true calling card of someone with a lack of social skills.

Oh and by the way, I actually do have a social disability, thanks for making a dick of yourself for me.
 
i don't see how that helps proving that they're legit tho

because the riddles popped out even before the pokemon came out

seriously do people even know about that fact? all those stuff could be found in bulba forums, and fuck even /vp/ of all places had long discussions about it

What meme? This is like that GiIvaSunner thread all over again...

But yeah. I couldn't recall the "Riddler" having anything right so far. Heck, I'm still having trouble seeing the monk connection.

uh what, did you like, miss a huge portion of riddler

>rock paper scissors with intestines
>screenshot of PokePark with Pikachu on a bedsheet
>monkey with football
>Aristotle
>a mangosteen

and eerily accurate ones
>monk staff with rings
>Zhuge Liang (if you don't think this one matches the Pokemon so much than a guess, you're dead denial)

are people being dunce that they're relying on his speculation on possible type distros to debunk him? or that he didn't put all mons in his riddles? the fuck are people on? this is like Serebii's Gen V starters denial.

All of his riddles have been right, the riddles have been revealed way before they came out.

To wit, the only ones we don't have so far are Darker than Black water spirit and the Cleopatra one.
 
the fuck are people on? this is like Serebii's Gen V starters denial.
Listen man, Oshawott has two legs, there's no way he's going to on all fours. You're crazy!

The following are FAKE but fun:

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Also if you guys have any leftover Pokemiles, I would use them up soon since they are going to wipe everything for the Global Link rehaul when Sun/Moon comes out. I recommend boosting some Ditto to 100 with rare candies since you can use bottle caps to bring it's IVs to 31. Unless Sun and Moon has some level 100 Audino horde, I think the fastest way to get perfect Pokes would be just using your boosted Ditto to breed.
 
because the riddles popped out even before the pokemon came out

seriously do people even know about that fact? all those stuff could be found in bulba forums, and fuck even /vp/ of all places had long discussions about it

I meant the exploding Alpaca part specifically since afaik there hasn't been even a rumor of a mon like outside of this.


That fake Alola Jiggly is U G L Y
 
because the riddles popped out even before the pokemon came out

seriously do people even know about that fact? all those stuff could be found in bulba forums, and fuck even /vp/ of all places had long discussions about it



uh what, did you like, miss a huge portion of riddler

>rock paper scissors with intestines
>screenshot of PokePark with Pikachu on a bedsheet
>monkey with football
>Aristotle
>a mangosteen

and eerily accurate ones
>monk staff with rings
>Zhuge Liang (if you don't think this one matches the Pokemon so much than a guess, you're dead denial)

are people being dunce that they're relying on his speculation on possible type distros to debunk him? or that he didn't put all mons in his riddles? the fuck are people on? this is like Serebii's Gen V starters denial.

All of his riddles have been right, the riddles have been revealed way before they came out.

To wit, the only ones we don't have so far are Darker than Black water spirit and the Cleopatra one.

He also posted pictures of Zubat and Litleo before we got the legendaries and from what I've read had an avatar with the animals the starters are based on back around when we got the first teaser at the beginning of the year.
 
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