Big Green Anus
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I think the Switch is going to be $199. I remember some article a few months ago saying it's going to be cheaper expected.
Nintendo: Switch dock only for charging and TV-out, Amiibo support, no commt on touch
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Lupin the Third
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Website says $199 for the 16GB model, including controller. $299 for a 500GB hard drive version. It launched at these prices in May 2015.
It's not impossible that by March of next year a similar device with extra trimmings (touch screen) could sell profitably for $250, assuming nVidia didn't take an insane bath on those Shield TVs.
Even the Shield "K1" Tablet itself is priced at $199 but it's been that way since 2014 (minus the controller, of course). I think $250 is quite plausible, or even--call me a Crazytown resident again, it's okay--maybe $200. Maybe. A man can hope. It would fit in with MCV's "cheaper than even the vast majority expect" rumor.
Yeah, i agree, but my point is Nintendo doesn't want the Switch to compete with tha 3DS, so i doubt we are going to have games we are used to see on Nintendo handhelds on the new system, like the main Pokemon games, anytime soon. Mark my words, people will be mad when Nintendo announce new exclusive games for the 3DS instead of the Switch.
ShadowFox08
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No way in hell is this going to be 200.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Possibly a Chromecast like device. Something with a small processor or chip to help with lag.
OrbitalBeard
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The Switch is gong to be more powerful than Wii U, so unless you really want the handful of Wii U exclusives that won't be ported to Switch, I don't know why you'd bother at this point.
Iwata said a big part of why they wanted the NX to bridge the portable and console divide is so they don't split their game development efforts between consoles and handhelds. Nintendo's not talking about the NX replacing the 3DS yet because they still believe they can sell some more 3DSes, but make no mistake - it is.
Alcotholic
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I mentioned this in another thread, but I hope they sell the docks individually so I could keep one at mt family's home so I dont have to bring one with me if I want to game with others on the big screen.
Mikey Jr.
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Hmmm, I have a suspicion this thing is gonna be really weak.
Like, right in the middle between wiiu and XB1.
Thought that dock Woukd give it extra power to hit XB1.
Dunno, we'll see. Not sure why I would really want to play multiplats on it. Unless I really like playing while taking a shit I guess.
Like, right in the middle between wiiu and XB1.
Thought that dock Woukd give it extra power to hit XB1.
Dunno, we'll see. Not sure why I would really want to play multiplats on it. Unless I really like playing while taking a shit I guess.
Zombie James
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Well, that's one of the main things I was worried about when those leaks hit. I don't see how you could call this a hybrid when there are no advantages to the console side of the equation. It's just a handheld with a TV-out dock. Hugely disappointed.
That's how the Wavebird was marketed back then.
Joyful
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exactly what i was thinking , how is this a hybrid
There's no way the dock has a hard drive inside it, doubt it significantly changes the horsepower. The dock isn't really that big (Like 7" wide 4" tall and maybe 2" deep).
If anything the mobile device would be running in a lower power mode to help battery life but when docked it could run hotter. So the dock doesn't have additional GPUs or CPUs directly accessible. I expect it handles video up scaling, HDMI, USB 2.0/3.0, accessories, and hopefully Ethernet. Doubt there will be much more.
If anything the mobile device would be running in a lower power mode to help battery life but when docked it could run hotter. So the dock doesn't have additional GPUs or CPUs directly accessible. I expect it handles video up scaling, HDMI, USB 2.0/3.0, accessories, and hopefully Ethernet. Doubt there will be much more.
You wouldn't be playing multiplats at home with it if you already own an XB1 or PS4. You would be playing them on the go however, which neither of the other two can do.
Yup. I don't see how anyone can look at Nintendo's history and think otherwise.
Mikey Jr.
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Ohh, then the switch has almost no appeal to me then sadly. I might get it when it's cheap for the ninty games.
Bjoern the Smexy
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I'm just gonna say it right out:
Just because the main unit has a 720p display doesn't mean that Switch can only produce 720p images.
Maybe the main unit is already powerful enough to render games at 1080p in some or most cases but you'll only be able to notice that on your TV obviously.
I could see this console underclocking its CPU and GPU in handheld mode and using full power in console mode.
And even if all of what I just said turns out to be false I'd still take it.
Just because the main unit has a 720p display doesn't mean that Switch can only produce 720p images.
Maybe the main unit is already powerful enough to render games at 1080p in some or most cases but you'll only be able to notice that on your TV obviously.
I could see this console underclocking its CPU and GPU in handheld mode and using full power in console mode.
And even if all of what I just said turns out to be false I'd still take it.
exmachina64
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You're about four years late.
This sounds familiar.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=215511463
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=215511705
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=215512558
Now to deal with the fucking semantics of what is a hybrid for a portable gaming console that works with TVs because Nintendo decided to call it a home gaming system for its advertising.
Sword Of Doom
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Frame rate looked lower in hand held mode. Am I just crazy or was that really in the video? I noticed it this morning.
This is the most exciting thing about the NS for me.
When docked, maybe its in a higher power mode because it is no longer battery operated. That IS the advantage.
What does power have to do with anything really? The Wii was a huge success without being powerful. It wasn't even HD during the HD generation. Was the Wii a handheld? The people Nintendo wants buying their consoles are playing free to play touch games on a tablet right now. That market is so much bigger than just home consoles. The Nintendo brand has so much potential, they just don't know what to do with.
This is the most exciting thing about the NS for me.
When docked, maybe its in a higher power mode because it is no longer battery operated. That IS the advantage.
What does power have to do with anything really? The Wii was a huge success without being powerful. It wasn't even HD during the HD generation. Was the Wii a handheld? The people Nintendo wants buying their consoles are playing free to play touch games on a tablet right now. That market is so much bigger than just home consoles. The Nintendo brand has so much potential, they just don't know what to do with.
420bits
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Yeah, no way it's going to be 200 at launch.
Didnt new 3ds lauch at 250? So with that as a base its going to be at least 250, slap Nintendo brand on it and its going to be another 50 bucks, add a pro controller because you can't play with the regular one and you're up at 350.
With a bit of luck we will see a game + pro + console-bundle for 350.
But as for the console itself, if that thing is 299 or lower at launch, I would be amazed.
All screens were simulated in that video. The screens get populated or replaced in post production, even the screens in that arena which I think had a bad track. Haven't played through it frame by frame yet.
I've personally had to populate TV, laptop, and phone/tablet screens for numerous commercials and let me tell you, Have even had to replace screens with different footage the day it's supposed to go out to stations.
Also thank you for using NS, glad that's getting some traction. Glad I could help people that dislike the full name.
Sword Of Doom
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ok, cause at times the frame rate looked rough so I thought maybe it was actual footage.
Yeah I just can't get used to calling it "Switch". For a minute earlier today I convinced myself that its a fun sounding name but yeah, I can't stand it really.
I Stalk Alone
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.
A 3 minute ad needs to show off the most outstanding benefits of the product against its substitutes. You dont reveal the product with a kitchen sink philosophy as it will dilute the message
Call it the NS then. Sounds like NX sounds Nes
JoshuaJSlone
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Yeah. Though it will make docking/undocking more of a hassle since it's one more thing to attach/detach, since it won't fit in the dock with added bulk.
TLZ
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But there you said it. It's an impressive piece compared to portables before it. Home consoles though, not so much, and that's where the problem with the home console crowd lies.
OrbitalBeard
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lowhighkang_LHK
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Guess not.
The Switch is a glorified handheld with an HDMI out to TV folks. Nothing more, nothing less.
Very rarely will a screen have playback on it during a shoot. In my 10+ years I remember only once having playback on a device and it was for a little kid to react to and we ended up replacing the screen afterwards. Ideally you would want to keep the device off and avoid covering the screen, the next best is just a solid color (grey, green, or blue).
Long live the NS!
Yeah, $199 is no-brainer price. Hell, even $299 is pretty attractive for a new console.
Soodanim
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"Switch only does this and not that"
Fuck all that noise, this is going to be a decently powered Nintendo system that will allow me to dock and play next gen Pokemon on my TV or a full Mario experience in bed at a decent resolution.
I'm in for Nintendo games. Portability might be down the drain (maybe they'll release a smaller screen version or something) but as a home machine it's a great concept.
Fuck all that noise, this is going to be a decently powered Nintendo system that will allow me to dock and play next gen Pokemon on my TV or a full Mario experience in bed at a decent resolution.
I'm in for Nintendo games. Portability might be down the drain (maybe they'll release a smaller screen version or something) but as a home machine it's a great concept.
How would that work exactly? I guess you could stream gameplay from the tablet to the dock, but that would require spending more money on the dock and most people wouldn't get any use out of it.
LordRaptor
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I wonder if you'll be able to connect a USB HDD to the dock for bulk storage on your 'home' device, and easy cleaning out the fridge management for the onboard portable memory
Possibly, but it's also important to consider that Nvidia is not a software company and therefore would be looking to make some profit per device. If this is sold as close to cost as possible, they might be able to do $199 or something close. I certainly can't imagine it hitting $250+, which would be bomba territory.
I'm inclined to believe that it's not gonna be sold at close to cost. Fat lot that did for AMD despite strong xbox/ps4 sales. Even so, 250 is a pretty good price-point since it's cheaper than the other two.
People see it as a hybrid. It's marketed as a console with handheld capabilities. It's not designed to be handheld only, neither is it designed to be console only. A handheld would have more battery life, be smaller and wouldn't have detachable controllers. A console would have been more powerful and bigger. They combined the two into one. It's a clear engeneering decision.
Yep.
In fact, as others have suggested, I'm going to go out on a limb as say that the Zelda footage in that video was just of the Wii U version. The frame-rate is certainly consistent with what I've played of it.
That Mario footage? I'm sure that's NS since it's an original game.
...but we've already heard that the Skyrim footage was just mocked up and there is no game announced.
It's clearly just a concept video and they've yet to really show us the games.
sammyCYBORG
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My guesses:
The first year better have some stellar titles because there's no excuses for not having the quantity after abandoning the Wii U.
- £350
- Out of the titles we saw, Zelda will be the only launch one, unless the Mario Kart / Splatoon titles are re-releases.
- It will be quite weak compared to today's standards, but no third party will want to touch it, so it doesn't really matter because Nintendo can make great looking games on weak hardware.
- The online store / infrastructure will still be behind-the-times.
- They'll leak out Virtual Console titles an a shockingly slow rate again, rather than saying "buy every Nintendo game you'd ever want from day 1!" which is what they should do.
- It won't be successful as a handheld so a new 3DS will be released 2-3 years down the line.
The first year better have some stellar titles because there's no excuses for not having the quantity after abandoning the Wii U.
KennyLinder
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Capacitive doesn't require stylus.
They would be insane to sell it for £350 tbh
sammyCYBORG
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I expect the marketing to say it's two consoles in one, a handheld and a home one, which usually would cost closer to £500.
Anyway I'm an adult with a job so price doesn't really bother me, I'd buy it at £200 or £500, that's just the price point they'll try it at I think.
Mr.Pessimistic right here lol.
£300 is the maximum I can see this thing being sold at and being any sort of success. Any higher and they're screwing it over tbh.
sammyCYBORG
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I'm Nintendo's biggest fan when it comes to their games, but with everything else pessimism is warranted. They haven't really nailed other aspects since the Wii which is a decade ago now.
I dont see how those comments rule out an upclock.
Edit: Nintendo doesnt like to go into tech speech. For the average user who doesnt know or care about resolution, that is the function of the dock. If it upclocks to run on higher resolution on the tv, the average user wont even know or care, cause the pixel density will still be the same or higher on the tablet.
Edit: Nintendo doesnt like to go into tech speech. For the average user who doesnt know or care about resolution, that is the function of the dock. If it upclocks to run on higher resolution on the tv, the average user wont even know or care, cause the pixel density will still be the same or higher on the tablet.
Raonak
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Hmm... so it's more of a handheld with video output than a truly hybrid system.
The biggest problem is that it's very lilkely this will fall into the problem that Wii and WiiU faced interms of support. It's not gonna be able to keep up with the current gen consoles and be left behind interms of 3rd party support.
But actually, this probably makes the most sense for nintendo.
Their home console business has collasped, and it's gonna be almost impossible to regain marketshare from sony and MS, even if there was spec equality. so focusing on the handheld niche makes a lot of sense. Especially since Sony is likely to make a vita 2
The biggest problem is that it's very lilkely this will fall into the problem that Wii and WiiU faced interms of support. It's not gonna be able to keep up with the current gen consoles and be left behind interms of 3rd party support.
But actually, this probably makes the most sense for nintendo.
Their home console business has collasped, and it's gonna be almost impossible to regain marketshare from sony and MS, even if there was spec equality. so focusing on the handheld niche makes a lot of sense. Especially since Sony is likely to make a vita 2