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[FyreWulff]

https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/789131903622406144

Anybody bring this up? This person seems to have solid sources.

It's technically possible for the system to upclock when on charge power. Most modern OSes can do this on laptops when they're plugged and unplugged.

ie, pushing more than 720p on the screen itself would be a waste, but you can use extra clock while docked to go to 1080p without having to worry about battery drain.

 

[Will the Thrill]

Lol @ people who think the Switch will be $200. It'll, absolutely, be $399. I would be ridiculously surprised if it's any less. This is Nintendo we're talking about, and they do not lose money on consoles.

From the sounds of it, the Switch is more powerful than most/all tablets that exist right now, which puts it in that $600-$900 range. Since it's a game console, though, I'd expect it to launch at $399, or maybe $499.

No way it's 400, the Wii U was $299.99 and $349.99 at launch. At most I expect $299.99, maybe a bundle with better storage and extras at $349.99.

I think a $249.99 would be absolutely killer though, to me that is what Nintendo should be aiming for. Sub 300 would make this an instant buy for a lot more people.

 

[Da-Kid]

Games need to run in 1080P minimum in dock mode or Nintendo seriously dropped the ball again. I will be baffled if they shot themselves in the foot like this. I mean TV's are 4K as the norm at this point. You can not release a console that runs games on our 4K TV's in 720P... in 2017. Seriously. Wtf?!

They could just be purposely vague right now. It is still possible that there is an active/passive setup here.

4K TVs are not the norm and won't be for years. Barely anyone has them as a matter of fact.

 

[Bronetta]

Games need to run in 1080P minimum in dock mode or Nintendo seriously dropped the ball again. I will be baffled if they shot themselves in the foot like this. I mean TV's are 4K as the norm at this point. You can not release a console that runs games on our 4K TV's in 720P... in 2017. Seriously. Wtf?!

They could just be purposely vague right now. It is still possible that there is an active/passive setup here.

4k tvs may be the norm in stores but I'm willing to bet 90% of HDTVs in households are 1080p.


Edit: I'm guessing the price will be $280. $300 is too high and $250 is too low.

 

[brochiller]

I really hope the screen is tactile at least, if not, one of the best things WiiU brought to the table, miiverse, is going to miss so many important features in the process.

I think this is the most likely scenario.

I feel like we really don't have any idea about what kind of power this system may be capable of when docked. Sure, we've seen what mobile chips can do in the past, but how many of those chips could take advantage of active cooling and not having to worry about battery consumption at the same time.

Just because this is a smaller package doesn't mean it will conform to our notions of what a device this size is capable of when the Switch is docked.

 

[TAS]

Hmmm..doesn't sound like they are releasing all the details. That dock looks too beefy to simply be a charger and TV out. Also, the two ports on the side of the dock--is that HDMI or USB?

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

Nintendo's messaging is awful on all of this.

They are so vague.

This was only a preview.

They will get more specific later.

 

[Bitanator]

This was only a preview.

They will get more specific later.

Nintendo being specific about their hardware?

 

[gafneo]

No way it's 400, the Wii U was $299.99 and $349.99 at launch. At most I expect $299.99, maybe a bundle with better storage and extras at $349.99.

I think a $249.99 would be absolutely killer though, to me that is what Nintendo should be aiming for. Sub 300 would make this an instant buy for a lot more people.

Since it doesn't need the dock to increase power, the handheld is what takes up the costs. No touch and motion make this thing inexpensive. I'm thinking $199 is possible. This is nVidia Shield with a Nintendo spin. Each Shield released is at low cost.

 

[crinale]

You can detach the Switch from dock on the fly so there's no way dock has extra processor in it. It should be power supply that allows chip to run on normal speed while on battery it will be downclocked to save battery.

 

[Leatherface]

lol no

I'm talking about if you go buy a TV right now a great deal of your options include 4K as a feature and are also very affordable. So if Nintendo is already starting this far behind the curve, a few years from now it will feel incredibly dated to play a 720p resolution game on our TV's.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Does anyone think it might be possible for NVIDIA to release or sell a game-streaming application on the NS specifically for streaming games from a PC?

4K TVs are not the norm and won't be for years. Barely anyone has them as a matter of fact.

I mean, I agree with you, but that's essentially what people were saying about HDTVs in 2006 in regards to Revolution's lack of hd support, too. And by the end of the Wii's lifecycle, HD TVs were the norm.

 

[elohel]

I'm shocked that people thought it would be any different. I've been saying the same thing over and over in the main thread with people disagreeing with me and wanting the dock sold seperatlely because they didn't want to use the portable element.

Any difference in performance between playing on the go or docked would be down to the Nvidia SOC downclocking while in portable mode to improve battery life.

Look at how big and wishful the crowd is for attachable graphics? Don't act like you knew 100% cuz no one did regardless of the outcome

Being right and knowing are two different things

Off ya high horse bro! Either way system looks dope

 

[Quonny]

Yuck, 720p on a big TV.

Double yuck when you combine that with the fact that it has no d-pad on the console itself so you're forced to use the thumbstick.

Triple yuck blurry Fire Emblem or no d-pad Fire Emblem.

 

[Firemind]

Yuck, 720p on a big TV.

Double yuck when you combine that with the fact that it has no d-pad on the console itself so you're forced to use the thumbstick.

Triple yuck blurry Fire Emblem or no d-pad Fire Emblem.

yeah but i assume you can still pet your pixelated waifu

what else are you going to buy fire emblem for

 

[Quonny]

yeah but i assume you can still pet your pixelated waifu

what else are you going to buy fire emblem for

true true, i may need to rethink this quandry

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Yuck, 720p on a big TV.

Double yuck when you combine that with the fact that it has no d-pad on the console itself so you're forced to use the thumbstick.

Triple yuck blurry Fire Emblem or no d-pad Fire Emblem.

it's a damn shame that intelligent systems never got around to introducing a new control scheme into their strategy games, which could utilize specific hardware advances in order to provide a control scheme that's even better than a d-pad

(touch controls will probably be an afterthought or an extra for most applicable games on this system for the obvious reason, but I don't see why Nintendo can't throw Wii Remote functionality and a Sensor Bar port to the NS/Dock in order to enable some sort of alternative)

 

[Da-Kid]

I mean, I agree with you, but that's essentially what people were saying about HDTVs in 2006 in regards to Revolution's lack of hd support, too. And by the end of the Wii's lifecycle, HD TVs were the norm.

That's completely different because where you could see huge leap in IQ then, people were more inclined to get an HDTV. To most people today for right now, most won't be nearly as interested in 4K since its not as huge a leap as HD was compared to SD at that time. Especially after 1080p TV just became reasonably affordable in the last couple of years. A 4K won't for a while either.

 

[Quonny]

it's a damn shame that intelligent systems never got around to introducing a new control scheme into their strategy games, which could utilize specific hardware advances in order to provide a control scheme that's even better than a d-pad

Ew, what a wrong and shameful opinion.

DEE PAD OR BUST

 

[SalvaPot]

You can detach the Switch from dock on the fly so there's no way dock has extra processor in it. It should be power supply that allows chip to run on normal speed while on battery it will be downclocked to save battery.

Yeah, this is what I am thinking too.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Ew, what a wrong and shameful opinion.

DEE PAD OR BUST

you probably played Pikmin 3 using the full-analogue Gamepad scheme didn't you

 

[Quonny]

you probably played Pikmin 3 using the full-analogue Gamepad scheme didn't you

Wow. I mean, there's a low blow, then there's this.

Enjoy your permaban.

 

[FyreWulff]

Games need to run in 1080P minimum in dock mode or Nintendo seriously dropped the ball again. I will be baffled if they shot themselves in the foot like this. I mean TV's are 4K as the norm at this point. You can not release a console that runs games on our 4K TV's in 720P... in 2017. Seriously. Wtf?!

They could just be purposely vague right now. It is still possible that there is an active/passive setup here.

Statistically, the largest HDTV install base is still 720p. Just putting that out there.

 

[EDarkness]

You can detach the Switch from dock on the fly so there's no way dock has extra processor in it. It should be power supply that allows chip to run on normal speed while on battery it will be downclocked to save battery.

We have no idea how this setup works, so there's no way to know for sure right now. I'm sure we'll know more in the coming weeks.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Wow. I mean, there's a low blow, then there's this.

Enjoy your permaban.

I deserve it anyways

 

[Pie and Beans]

I'm sure the dock will bump it up to 1080p because that was part of the rumours ages ago.

Putting out games on HDTVs at 720p in 2017 onwards would be a bold strategy though, Cotton.

 

[xxbrothawizxx63]

Seems weird they won't confirm touch. It would be incredibly odd for them not to support it since it's the method of interface that feels natural to most on portable devices these days and the device is definitely well suited for it.

I really hope that Nintendo is being forward thinking with the OS and multi device environment they can simulate using its versatility. Without the Joy-cons and while still portable, the Switch is a perfectly fine, though low resolution, mini-tablet device. If they play their cards right (hopefully the DeNa partnership is a good sign), they'll be able to court an incredible number of different gaming ecosystems into one device (what's left of handheld game developers primarily in Japan, mobile, and console). Along with their first party support, it would be an incredible amount of software and hard for consumers to ignore.

This all depends on it being successful initially though.

 

[Prologue]

Lol @ people who think the Switch will be $200. It'll, absolutely, be $399. I would be ridiculously surprised if it's any less. This is Nintendo we're talking about, and they do not lose money on consoles.

From the sounds of it, the Switch is more powerful than most/all tablets that exist right now, which puts it in that $600-$900 range. Since it's a game console, though, I'd expect it to launch at $399, or maybe $499.

With PS4 pro at $399 and Scorpio at $499, it won't be either price. $300

 

[sissypants]

Does anyone think it's strange that the dock covers up the screen of the handheld?

 

[TedNindo]

Does the tablet seem to have active cooling? There are vents at the top. Does the shield tablet have active cooling?

 

[Ridley327]

Does anyone think it's strange that the dock covers up the screen of the handheld?

Not particularly. Since there don't appear to be any dual screen functions, there's not much of a reason to have it exposed.

 

[bounchfx]

I was really wondering if it had any touch/multi touch or accelerometers for the controllers. I feel like both would be nice to have for games.

 

[NeonZ]

Does anyone think it's strange that the dock covers up the screen of the handheld?

I guess it's a way to stop developers from attempting some kind of dual screen game design.

 

[Izuna]

I'm really finding it difficult to understand why Nintendo didn't have the dock increase any of the power. They went full tablet...

 

[lensoftruth]

Great news.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Since it doesn't need the dock to increase power, the handheld is what takes up the costs. No touch and motion make this thing inexpensive. I'm thinking $199 is possible. This is nVidia Shield with a Nintendo spin. Each Shield released is at low cost.

I can live with the tradeoffs if this is $200. It's a weak home console to accommodate tablet portability that I'll never use.

 

[WickedLaharl]

Is this going to be more powerful than PS4 which has been on the market for 3 years?

 

[~Cross~]

Is this going to be more powerful than PS4 which has been on the market for 3 years?

No. Dont think of it as a home console, its a portable system that you can play on your tv.

 

[brandonh83]

Is this going to be more powerful than PS4 which has been on the market for 3 years?

>X1

 

[Regginator]

No. Dont think of it as a home console, its a portable system that you can play on your tv.

Uhm, no. If anything, it's a home console that you can play portable on the go.

 

[lensoftruth]

I'm really finding it difficult to understand why Nintendo didn't have the dock increase any of the power. They went full tablet...

Because it's pointless? There's nothing not bumpmapped wrestlefesfs and the twins. Nintendo, as usual are aiming for gamers.

 

[aBarreras]

Games need to run in 1080P minimum in dock mode or Nintendo seriously dropped the ball again. I will be baffled if they shot themselves in the foot like this. I mean TV's are 4K as the norm at this point. You can not release a console that runs games on our 4K TV's in 720P... in 2017. Seriously. Wtf?!

They could just be purposely vague right now. It is still possible that there is an active/passive setup here.

a 4k tv costs like 1/2th of my yearly income, so fuck no, they arent standard.

 

[MicH]

Uhm, no. If anything, it's a home console that you can play portable on the go.

Technically it's a handheld you can connect to the TV. The tablet is the console.

 

[ricelord]

Is this going to be more powerful than PS4 which has been on the market for 3 years?

LOL its way lass powerful then the Xbox 1.

 

[Coffinhal]

Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D World and others Wii U games that are 720p look alright on a 1080p TV. I'm not shocked if it's only 720p, I'll play it mainly with the handled screen anyway.

(and I'm used to 1440p ultrawide gaming)

 

[lensoftruth]

Games need to run in 1080P minimum in dock mode or Nintendo seriously dropped the ball again. I will be baffled if they shot themselves in the foot like this. I mean TV's are 4K as the norm at this point. You can not release a console that runs games on our 4K TV's in 720P... in 2017. Seriously. Wtf?!

They could just be purposely vague right now. It is still possible that there is an active/passive setup here.

lol. People seriously expect this shit? There already 2 tedious consoles to play cod on for kids.

 

[exmachina64]

I'm really finding it difficult to understand why Nintendo didn't have the dock increase any of the power. They went full tablet...

Nintendo doesn't like to push the envelope beyond a certain point. They weren't going to make the Switch more complex by having an active cooling solution or putting extra components in the dock. That's just how they operate.

Uhm, no. If anything, it's a home console that you can play portable on the go.

It's a portable that you put into a charging dock for TV output. If it was running at the power level of a home console, it would run out of power much faster. This is not a home console. Accept it.

Edit:

Games need to run in 1080P minimum in dock mode or Nintendo seriously dropped the ball again. I will be baffled if they shot themselves in the foot like this. I mean TV's are 4K as the norm at this point. You can not release a console that runs games on our 4K TV's in 720P... in 2017. Seriously. Wtf?!

They could just be purposely vague right now. It is still possible that there is an active/passive setup here.

Don't do this to yourself, there's no secret active/passive set-up or extra components in the dock.

It's a gaming portable that you can plug into your TV. If you don't like how it looks on a 4K TV, their expectation is that you unplug it from the TV and play it on your couch.

 

[Espada]

Uhm, no. If anything, it's a home console that you can play portable on the go.

From Nintendo themselves they state that the Switch is actually the tablet with the display on it, the dock is just a charger+TV output station. It's a portable that can connect to your TV.

Still, Nintendo has made one intriguing looking console.

 

[~Cross~]

Uhm, no. If anything, it's a home console that you can play portable on the go.

Ummmm did you see the thing. Its literally a tablet you hook up to docking a station. You dont call a laptop in a docking station a desktop do you?

 

[gafneo]

I can live with the tradeoffs if this is $200. It's a weak home console to accommodate tablet portability that I'll never use.

You say that now, but try to say no to 4 player Mario Kart on the TV.