Behold Nintendo Switch (March 2017, Hybrid w/ Dock, Detachable Controllers, Nvidia)

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That'd be so dumb. I hope there's a headphone jack on the charger thing.

Maybe wireless headphones would work but I wouldn't be surprised if sound just doesn't come through while docked anyways because of nonsense.

I'm hoping it support Bluetooth headphones (especially in portable mode).
 
I used to think it was a shame that Nintendo didn't feature the SNES coloured buttons on the controller/slate, or a similar flourish.

But now I get it.

This isn't Nintendo looking back at past successes or banking on nostalgia.

This console is all about Nintendo moving on and looking forward.
I'd almost argue that the Switch takes almost everything that made Nintendo successful and coalesces it all into this handheld. The small controllers are giving major Famicom vibes, the logo looks like the GameCube's revenge, the fact that it's a handheld at all etc.
 
I'd almost argue that the Switch takes almost everything that made Nintendo successful and coalesces it all into this handheld. The small controllers are giving major Famicom vibes, the logo looks like the GameCube's revenge, the fact that it's a handheld at all etc.


kinda feel like you both are right. i love the look and the simplicity. it still has a nostalgic mature feel. i dig it and can you imagine the limited editions?????
 
I really hope Nintendo actually goes forward with making this their singular "platform." They can release other SKUs (like a more portable Mini version) that run the same games, but I want all of their software on one family of devices. Say, perhaps a Switch Portable with a 5" 540p screen released in 2018 or 2019 and a Switch 2 in 2019-2021 that starts getting some exclusive games because of the tech advancements. I just want to see Fire Emblem, Pokémon, and Ace Attorney in HD on my TV.
 
I really hope Nintendo actually goes forward with making this their singular "platform." They can release other SKUs (like a more portable Mini version) that run the same games, but I want all of their software on one family of devices. I want to see Fire Emblem, Pokémon, and Ace Attorney in HD on my TV.

You'd assume they'd have to release this first, as is, and sell enough to where they could make a 4' version.
 
You'd assume they'd have to release this first, as is, and sell enough to where they could make a 4' version.

Very true. I guess I also hope this is a success so they don't go back on what I see as the vision of the "NX platform." :)
 
I shall fashion a head strap so I can walk around in public with it strapped to my head with a joycon in each hand for ultimate comfort

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Honestly im expecting a GearVR style VR solution for the switch to be released shortly. It makes too much sense.

You would just have to put up more cash for a better screen with worse battery life
 
Honestly im expecting a GearVR style VR solution for the switch to be released shortly. It makes too much sense.

You would just have to put up more cash for a better screen with worse battery life

You're gonna wait a bit until a 2k screen comes in a future revision.
 
I don't think BOTW Wii U will have gamepad features either unless something's changed.

Suddenly I'm worried that I won't be able to plug in headphones unless the Switch is in handheld mode. The Wii U's inconsistent and dumb headphone implementation doesn't give me confidence in this regard.

I completely missed the fact that second-screen and gyro controls weren't ever shown in any of the demos... But yeah, just verified. Hm, woops.
 
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Can you just plug a charge cord directly into the tablet + use its display rather than plug it into the dock?

I'd imagine so, don't see anything wrong with doing that. The question is (and we all know the answer) will the charging port be standardized or proprietary?
 
So now that the dust has settled and I had plenty of time to overthink it, I'm starting to have concerns about the Switch, in the sense that for me, unfortunately, it's going to be a product I'm going to feel forced to buy instead of being a product I truly want to buy. Let me explain:

I seldom play on the go. I have a 3DS that's collecting dust. I'm an adult, I have a busy life. When I'm on the go, I'm usually with friends or family. I bike to work. When I'm in a car, I'm usually the driver 90% of the time. Whenever I have some spare time not at home, usually it's in very short supply and end up spending it socializing/surfing on my phone. Last time I had time to play with my 3DS, I was on a plane. When I play games, 99% of the time it's at home sitting on my comfy couch(tm). I have a Wii U. Hence, for me, the Switch is unfortunately going to feel like I'm just going to replace my Wii U with an ever-slightly more powerful one, for a hefty price, and end up losing my VC games, the second-screen experience, and Wii backwards compatibility in the process. It's just not that much of an appealing proposition. It doesn't feel like an upgrade in any sense of the word. It feels like I'm just being forced to buy a new machine to keep playing Nintendo games with the almost-same graphical capability as before. (Again, based on the footage we have seen thus far, where games seemed no prettier than their Wii U counterparts)

And only Nintendo games, because I have the feeling that big third party blockbusters are not going to be making it to the Switch, or if they do, they're going to be massively downgraded graphically. Sure, I know, I guess there's going be some exclusives and all. But overall, I'm not going to buy Bloodborne 2 on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm not going to buy FFXV on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm still going to buy the PS4 version of those.

So once again, I'm forced to buy what is going to feel to me like an "inferior" machine to play Nintendo's games on. One that barely feels better than the last one. It's going to feel bitter, it's going to leave a nasty after-taste, even if I'm going to have fun playing that new Mario game...
 
So now that the dust has settled and I had plenty of time to overthink it, I'm starting to have concerns about the Switch, in the sense that for me, unfortunately, it's going to be a product I'm going to feel forced to buy instead of being a product I truly want to buy. Let me explain:

I seldom play on the go. I have a 3DS that's collecting dust. I'm an adult, I have a busy life. When I'm on the go, I'm usually with friends or family. I bike to work. When I'm in a car, I'm usually the driver 90% of the time. Whenever I have some spare time not at home, usually it's in very short supply and end up spending it socializing/surfing on my phone. Last time I had time to play with my 3DS, I was on a plane. When I play games, 99% of the time it's at home sitting on my comfy couch(tm). I have a Wii U. Hence, for me, the Switch is unfortunately going to feel like I'm just going to replace my Wii U with an ever-slightly more powerful one, for a hefty price, and end up losing my VC games, the second-screen experience, and Wii backwards compatibility in the process. It's just not that much of an appealing proposition. It doesn't feel like an upgrade in any sense of the word. It feels like I'm just being forced to buy a new machine to keep playing Nintendo games with the almost-same graphical capability as before. (Again, based on the footage we have seen thus far, where games seemed no prettier than their Wii U counterparts)

And only Nintendo games, because I have the feeling that big third party blockbusters are not going to be making it to the Switch, or if they do, they're going to be massively downgraded graphically. Sure, I know, I guess there's going be some exclusives and all. But overall, I'm not going to buy Bloodborne 2 on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm not going to buy FFXV on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm still going to buy the PS4 version of those.

So once again, I'm forced to buy what is going to feel to me like an "inferior" machine to play Nintendo's games on. One that barely feels better than the last one. It's going to feel bitter, it's going to leave a nasty after-taste, even if I'm going to have fun playing that new Mario game...

If you don't use it as a portable, it loses some value, yes. However, it's still giving you access to all of Nintendo's portable games, so that's a huge upgrade over the Wii U.
 
So now that the dust has settled and I had plenty of time to overthink it, I'm starting to have concerns about the Switch, in the sense that for me, unfortunately, it's going to be a product I'm going to feel forced to buy instead of being a product I truly want to buy. Let me explain:

I seldom play on the go. I have a 3DS that's collecting dust. I'm an adult, I have a busy life. When I'm on the go, I'm usually with friends or family. I bike to work. When I'm in a car, I'm usually the driver 90% of the time. Whenever I have some spare time not at home, usually it's in very short supply and end up spending it socializing/surfing on my phone. Last time I had time to play with my 3DS, I was on a plane. When I play games, 99% of the time it's at home sitting on my comfy couch(tm). I have a Wii U. Hence, for me, the Switch is unfortunately going to feel like I'm just going to replace my Wii U with an ever-slightly more powerful one, for a hefty price, and end up losing my VC games, the second-screen experience, and Wii backwards compatibility in the process. It's just not that much of an appealing proposition. It doesn't feel like an upgrade in any sense of the word. It feels like I'm just being forced to buy a new machine to keep playing Nintendo games with the almost-same graphical capability as before. (Again, based on the footage we have seen thus far, where games seemed no prettier than their Wii U counterparts)

And only Nintendo games, because I have the feeling that big third party blockbusters are not going to be making it to the Switch, or if they do, they're going to be massively downgraded graphically. Sure, I know, I guess there's going be some exclusives and all. But overall, I'm not going to buy Bloodborne 2 on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm not going to buy FFXV on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm still going to buy the PS4 version of those.

So once again, I'm forced to buy what is going to feel to me like an "inferior" machine to play Nintendo's games on. One that barely feels better than the last one. It's going to feel bitter, it's going to leave a nasty after-taste, even if I'm going to have fun playing that new Mario game...

I don't understand this.

No one is forcing you to buy anything. You have the power as a consumer to not buy something if it's going to cause you psychological pain. You decide to spend the money or not.

I don't to get this - "I will buy it, but I wont be happy" inner conflict thing people keep bringing up. If it's a problem of software, wait until you actually know what's coming, or until enough has come out to justify a purchase. Why do some people make it seem like they are buying into a lifestyle or something. Video games aren't needful purchases, they are for personal entertainment, it shouldn't be a huge life choice.
 
So now that the dust has settled and I had plenty of time to overthink it, I'm starting to have concerns about the Switch, in the sense that for me, unfortunately, it's going to be a product I'm going to feel forced to buy instead of being a product I truly want to buy. Let me explain:

I seldom play on the go. I have a 3DS that's collecting dust. I'm an adult, I have a busy life. When I'm on the go, I'm usually with friends or family. I bike to work. When I'm in a car, I'm usually the driver 90% of the time. Whenever I have some spare time not at home, usually it's in very short supply and end up spending it socializing/surfing on my phone. Last time I had time to play with my 3DS, I was on a plane. When I play games, 99% of the time it's at home sitting on my comfy couch(tm). I have a Wii U. Hence, for me, the Switch is unfortunately going to feel like I'm just going to replace my Wii U with an ever-slightly more powerful one, for a hefty price, and end up losing my VC games, the second-screen experience, and Wii backwards compatibility in the process. It's just not that much of an appealing proposition. It doesn't feel like an upgrade in any sense of the word. It feels like I'm just being forced to buy a new machine to keep playing Nintendo games with the almost-same graphical capability as before. (Again, based on the footage we have seen thus far, where games seemed no prettier than their Wii U counterparts)

And only Nintendo games, because I have the feeling that big third party blockbusters are not going to be making it to the Switch, or if they do, they're going to be massively downgraded graphically. Sure, I know, I guess there's going be some exclusives and all. But overall, I'm not going to buy Bloodborne 2 on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm not going to buy FFXV on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm still going to buy the PS4 version of those.

So once again, I'm forced to buy what is going to feel to me like an "inferior" machine to play Nintendo's games on. One that barely feels better than the last one. It's going to feel bitter, it's going to leave a nasty after-taste, even if I'm going to have fun playing that new Mario game...

Yeah l basically agree with those complaints. It kinda feels like the Wii again, where it wasn't a generational leap over the Gamecube, but this time without the excitement of the Wiimote. Heck like you said even the Wii U gamepad functionality has been dropped so I feel like I've lost more than I've gained hardware-wise. I know techincally the gap between Switch and Wii U is bigger than Gamecube-Wii, but I've yet to be convinced on how great a difference it makes.

The rumored haptic feedback might be interesting but nothing has been confirmed yet.

I am still really excited for the unified library though. That's a huge difference maker. I wish they showed more substantial software stuff during the reveal, because as it stands I'm just waiting for the "big" reveal sometime next year. Kinda feel left out if anything lol.

I don't understand this.

No one is forcing you to buy anything. You have the power as a consumer to not buy something if it's going to cause you psychological pain. You decide to spend the money or not.

I don't to get this - "I will buy it, but I wont be happy" inner conflict thing people keep bringing up. If it's a problem of software, wait until you actually know what's coming, or until enough has come out to justify a purchase. Why do some people make it seem like they are buying into a lifestyle or something. Video games aren't needful purchases, they are for personal entertainment, it shouldn't be a huge life choice.

Videogames r life
 
I wonder if they'll include a pack-in game. I'm guessing they won't in order to keep the price low, but if they do I want a brand new IP that takes full advantage of the form factor. A fun game that just can't be played anywhere else.
 
I wonder if they'll include a pack-in game. I'm guessing they won't in order to keep the price low, but if they do I want a brand new IP that takes full advantage of the form factor. A fun game that just can't be played anywhere else.
Picking a pack-in game to take a lot that has some kind of brand/hype potential a la what Sega did with the first Sonic game wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
So now that the dust has settled and I had plenty of time to overthink it, I'm starting to have concerns about the Switch, in the sense that for me, unfortunately, it's going to be a product I'm going to feel forced to buy instead of being a product I truly want to buy. Let me explain:

I seldom play on the go. I have a 3DS that's collecting dust. I'm an adult, I have a busy life. When I'm on the go, I'm usually with friends or family. I bike to work. When I'm in a car, I'm usually the driver 90% of the time. Whenever I have some spare time not at home, usually it's in very short supply and end up spending it socializing/surfing on my phone. Last time I had time to play with my 3DS, I was on a plane. When I play games, 99% of the time it's at home sitting on my comfy couch(tm). I have a Wii U. Hence, for me, the Switch is unfortunately going to feel like I'm just going to replace my Wii U with an ever-slightly more powerful one, for a hefty price, and end up losing my VC games, the second-screen experience, and Wii backwards compatibility in the process. It's just not that much of an appealing proposition. It doesn't feel like an upgrade in any sense of the word. It feels like I'm just being forced to buy a new machine to keep playing Nintendo games with the almost-same graphical capability as before. (Again, based on the footage we have seen thus far, where games seemed no prettier than their Wii U counterparts)

And only Nintendo games, because I have the feeling that big third party blockbusters are not going to be making it to the Switch, or if they do, they're going to be massively downgraded graphically. Sure, I know, I guess there's going be some exclusives and all. But overall, I'm not going to buy Bloodborne 2 on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm not going to buy FFXV on the Switch, even if it makes it. I'm still going to buy the PS4 version of those.

So once again, I'm forced to buy what is going to feel to me like an "inferior" machine to play Nintendo's games on. One that barely feels better than the last one. It's going to feel bitter, it's going to leave a nasty after-taste, even if I'm going to have fun playing that new Mario game...
Then...don't buy it? This "Nintendo is forcing me to buy their machines!" sentiment is absolutely ridiculous.
 
You can see this at the airport when they're sitting down.

Can you post a screenshot? I'm looking at the video and there's nothing plugged in to either Switch unit at any point during that part. There's the guy's headphone cord going down his shirt behind his Switch, but it's not plugged in either.
 
I'm just excited that this is a console I can actually play in bed as well as in the living room without physically moving the box. The fact that you can seamlessly take the same game with you is just such a great feature for me personally... I understand some people have no desire to continue console gaming outside of their living room (or off the TV) but I honestly think a lot of people will like this concept.

Add onto it that we finally get all of Nintendo's output on a single piece of hardware and that games previously relegated to handhelds will finally have HD installments and I'm super pumped. And that's before even getting to that list of third parties (which is about twice the size of Wii U and 3DS combined).
 
I wonder if they'll include a pack-in game. I'm guessing they won't in order to keep the price low, but if they do I want a brand new IP that takes full advantage of the form factor. A fun game that just can't be played anywhere else.

What was the last nintendo console that didn't have a pack-in? Gamecube?

I'd expect something like Wii Sports or Nintendo Land. A mini game collection that can leverage the split controllers.
 
I don't understand this.

No one is forcing you to buy anything. You have the power as a consumer to not buy something if it's going to cause you psychological pain. You decide to spend the money or not.

I don't to get this - "I will buy it, but I wont be happy" inner conflict thing people keep bringing up. If it's a problem of software, wait until you actually know what's coming, or until enough has come out to justify a purchase. Why do some people make it seem like they are buying into a lifestyle or something. Video games aren't needful purchases, they are for personal entertainment, it shouldn't be a huge life choice.

I would argue that $300-400 is a huge life choice, yes. If it's not to you, then congrats! It's more about what I feel is a missed opportunity. It's about the hypothetical future where I know what could have been, where I wish I could instead have spent that same $300-400 on a system that is on par or better than the PS4/XOne. It's about feeling like having no real choice, like feeling coerced, kind of like phone or TV bundles, where there's one this base that you really want (Nintendo software), but are forced to take on tons of channels you don't care (portability, inferior hardware) for a really high price, and having no alternate choice.
 
Can you post a screenshot? I'm looking at the video and there's nothing plugged in to either Switch unit at any point during that part. There's the guy's headphone cord going down his shirt behind his Switch, but it's not plugged in either.


If you don't think that's plugged into the unit, look for it while things are in motion in the video.
 
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