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[jts]

I'm really interested to see how the Joy-Con feel when used in each hand.

I am a big fan of ergonomics of using the Wii Remote + Nunchuk combo. It's by far the most comfortable way to play games IMO. Resting one wrist on each knee while sitting on the couch feels amazing, as does laying downing and letting each hand simply fall where they want.

I'm typing this from my laptop while laying down, and I can definitely see myself playing a lot of Switch in a similar position with the screen resting on my knees and one Joy-Con in each hand.

That is great but we very much need confirmation that the thing can be charged while using the kickstand. Really fear that Nintendo will say it wasn’t possible because they needed the connector on the bottom for the dock or something along those lines...

 

[StoppedInTracks]

The reception for this unveil (and the console itself) is really warm all around the web. I dare to say there is more hype towards NX than PSVR?!? (and obviously more than towards PS4K but that's normal).

 

[AzaK]

"Yo, I just got that new Captain Falcon Joy-Con!! It is the shit man!!"

"Yeah that's nice, for beginners. Donkey Kong Joy-Con. Get on my level!"

"Those are both nice, but not as fresh as my Splatoon Joy-Cons."

So much potential.

Please delete your post. Nintendo might get ideas and if it's successful then that will be their main focus for the entire gen.

 

[ASIS]

That is great but we very much need confirmation that the thing can be charged while using the kickstand. Really fear that Nintendo will say it wasn’t possible because they needed the connector on the bottom for the dock or something along those lines...

There is also the matter of charging the joy cons while using them that way.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

When the Vita was launched, some people here said that one reason why it sold poorly was because people didnt want console-like games on a handheld. They rather wanted bit sized games that were easy to pick up and play. I'm curious of anyone has changed their mind on this, especially now with Nintendo Switch?

Personally, i think console like games have been on handheld all the way since the first Gameboy, so for me its no major difference. Just curious if anyone has changed their mind on this.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

That was always just a bullshit excuse people came up with to put the Vita down. There was never truth to it. Especially when you consider how god tier the Vita library is for those smaller portable friendly games people supposedly would rather have. It was always just something people said to come up with something to hate the Vita for.

With that said Switch also has the benefit of not falling in to the same pitfalls PSP and Vita fell in to with console games on the go. We have true controller parity on a portable for the first time, and unlike PSP and Vita we aren't getting console like games that are lesser than true consoles. We're getting true uncompromised console gaming on a portable. It's exactly the same as on a home console just on a smaller screen.

 

[Tom_Cody]

That is great but we very much need confirmation that the thing can be charged while using the kickstand. Really fear that Nintendo will say it wasn’t possible because they needed the connector on the bottom for the dock or something along those lines...

Does that even need to be confirmed?

It's inconceivable there won't be an adapter that can be used seperately from the dock. More likely, the adapter will be removable from the dock, like the docks for the Wii U tablet and the various 3DS docks.

 

[DownGrader]

Does that even need to be confirmed?

It's inconceivable there won't be an adapter that can be used seperately from the dock. More likely, the adapter will be removable from the dock, like the docks for the Wii U tablet and the various 3DS docks.

They were talking about the kickstand, not about the dock. If the AC adaptor connector is on the lower side of Nintendo Switch, then you won't be able to charge it while using the kickstand.

 

[jts]

Does that even need to be confirmed?

It's inconceivable there won't be an adapter that can be used seperately from the dock. More likely, the adapter will be removable from the dock, like the docks for the Wii U tablet and the various 3DS docks.

No what I’m saying is that we fear that the charging connector only goes on the bottom, thus making it impossible to charge while using the kickstand. From the released footage there’s a cable going on the bottom.

There is also the matter of charging the joy cons while using them that way.

Yeah, guess they need to be attached once in a while. Hopefully they charge quickly.

 

[DownGrader]

No what I’m saying is that we fear that the charging connector only goes on the bottom, thus making it impossible to charge while using the kickstand. From the released footage there’s a cable going on the bottom.

Yeah, guess they need to be attached once in a while. Hopefully they charge quickly.

Seems like, if the connectors are on the bottom, the holes on the back allows cable to be bent while Nintendo Switch is in standing position.

 

[brochiller]

The bottom right picture is not the dock its the car stand bracket.

Yep. Looks like active cooling might be active to some extent in tablet mode too.

Hmm, seeing that the support has also those holes, does that mean that the active cooling works also in handheld mode?

It's pretty convincing evidence for it.

 

[jts]

Seems like, if the connectors are on the bottom, the holes on the back allows cable to be bent while Nintendo Switch is in standing position.

Wow, if that’s the case hats off to Nintendo. Very smart.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Still trying to find a SD card slot on this thing

Wait, that's right.

We have basically seen all sides of the thing at this point. Did the bottom shot reveal any sort of latch?

Because if this thing doesn't have expandable memory, that would be really silly.

 

[Tom_Cody]

They were talking about the kickstand, not about the dock. If the AC adaptor connector is on the lower side of Nintendo Switch, then you won't be able to charge it while using the kickstand.

No what I’m saying is that we fear that the charging connector only goes on the bottom, thus making it impossible to charge while using the kickstand. From the released footage there’s a cable going on the bottom.

Ok, my misunderstanding.

I still think it's inconceivable, but I at least understand the question now. I just checked my 3DS and the AC plug and the dock connectors are in the same place on the system, which could be an issue in the scenario you are describing. Even then, this wouldn't be an issue for me though. I virtually never play my 3DS while it is plugged in; it only happens in emergency situations when I am finishing up a gaming sessions and the red light comes on. Even with the suspected shorter battery life, I don't really see myself playing for longer than 1-2 hours at a time at most, so it shouldn't really come up for me.

 

[DownGrader]

Wow, if that’s the case hats off to Nintendo. Very smart.

Nintendo Switch does look like a well-engineered device! The "secret" Joy-Con shoulder button is ingenious.

Spoiler

In case you haven't seen it: it's on the side of Joy-Con which connects to the Switch or the Dock.

Wait, that's right.

We have basically seen all sides of the thing at this point. Did the bottom shot reveal any sort of latch?

Because if this thing doesn't have expandable memory, that would be really silly.

I hope it's either behind the battery cover or we've overseen it.

 

[Oregano]

Wait, that's right.

We have basically seen all sides of the thing at this point. Did the bottom shot reveal any sort of latch?

Because if this thing doesn't have expandable memory, that would be really silly.

Well the N3DS has the SD slot behind the back-plate so I wouldn't worry about it for now, although it may be inconvenient.

 

[Zedark]

Wait, that's right.

We have basically seen all sides of the thing at this point. Did the bottom shot reveal any sort of latch?

Because if this thing doesn't have expandable memory, that would be really silly.

The only possibility still open is the opening on the bottom called the 'green port' by Laura Dale: http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/report-how-nintendo-ensures-the-switch-slots-into-the-dock-correctly/.

No proof, though, but it is a possibility.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Nintendo Switch does look like a well-engineered device! The "secret" Joy-Con shoulder button is ingenious.

Spoiler

In case you haven't seen it: it's on the side of Joy-Con which connects to the Switch or the Dock.

This is still just a guess. It's not confirmed at all.

 

[KingSnake]

Yep. Looks like active cooling might be active to some extent in tablet mode too.



It's pretty convincing evidence for it.

That would be cool.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Wait, that's right.

We have basically seen all sides of the thing at this point. Did the bottom shot reveal any sort of latch?

Because if this thing doesn't have expandable memory, that would be really silly.

Every piece of Nintendo hardware since late 2006 has had an SD (or Micro SD) slot.

 

[DownGrader]

This is still just a guess. It's not confirmed at all.

I dunno, it's clearly visible on a promo shot and does look like a button.

Actually, it looks like a volume control sort of button. Maybe there are two buttons! Not the most practical way to place two of them there, but if it feels the same as using Z-buttons on Wii Classic Controller and New Nintendo 3DS, that's fine.

 

[Jon Carter]

When the Vita was launched, some people here said that one reason why it sold poorly was because people didnt want console-like games on a handheld. They rather wanted bit sized games that were easy to pick up and play. I'm curious of anyone has changed their mind on this, especially now with Nintendo Switch?

Personally, i think console like games have been on handheld all the way since the first Gameboy, so for me its no major difference. Just curious if anyone has changed their mind on this.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

There are a few things differentiating the Switch and the Vita that could play a part in the different reception.

One, Vita was (for a few months) home console-like gaming on-the-go. The Switch is actual home console gaming on-the-go. Uncharted: Golden Abyss is the former, Uncharted 4 is the latter, and that makes a difference.

Second, playing on-the-go is merely an option with the Switch. People can play exclusively on the TV if they want, and exclusively with a Pro controller or Joy-Con with a grip. They can still appreciate how easy it is to carry their console with them even if they never or almost never actually play on the tablet.

Third, Nintendo's home console games are pretty unique in that many of them feel right at home on a handheld. When you look at Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros., Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, 2D platformers like Mario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong or Kirby etc., they have all done very well on handhelds. It's more the AAA cinematic games with detailed textures, models etc. that a lot of people would just rather play on a TV. A ton of people watch YouTube and TV shows on their phones or tablets, but they will probably wanna watch Avatar on an HDTV.

That said, the Vita failed for many more reasons than that anyway. The PSP did fine and that was home console-like gaming on-the-go.

 

[AniHawk]

When the Vita was launched, some people here said that one reason why it sold poorly was because people didnt want console-like games on a handheld. They rather wanted bit sized games that were easy to pick up and play. I'm curious of anyone has changed their mind on this, especially now with Nintendo Switch?

Personally, i think console like games have been on handheld all the way since the first Gameboy, so for me its no major difference. Just curious if anyone has changed their mind on this.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

i think people (including myself) were wrong about what people wanted out of a handheld. this isn't because of the switch but because of the 3ds. games that were successful there were things like super mario 3d land, ocarina of time, luigi's mansion, mario kart 7, etc. what people don't tend to buy are spinoffs made by b-teams. uncharted golden abyss wasn't the next uncharted game from naughty dog - and naughty dog themselves never bothered with the platform. neither did a lot of sony's best studios aside from media.molecule (bless them for tearaway).

additionally, the vita was a luxury item for the kind of people who wanted playstation games. they weren't getting the major experiences they could have on the console, and certainly not all of the franchises either. it was a big deal when a spinoff of assassin's creed or a port of borderlands or call of duty came its way. the 3ds by comparison was the mainstream device nintendo had for the 8th generation, while the wii u was the luxury device. the 3ds had the same kinds of games as the wii u, but the perceived difference between them was that the 3ds counterparts were probably good enough, and they weren't sequels. plus, the 3ds had way more games overall. if you're seeking out a platform for the family, and you're thinking nintendo, the 3ds has the better value by far.

 

[MDave]

Nintendo are wrong to call this their third pillar platform, its simply a resurrection of their original 2nd pillar, the GameBoy series! They were just waiting for the tech to be good enough for home console use as well. The Gameboy Player was quite a popular accessory after all.

 

[KingSnake]

Nintendo are wrong to call this their third pillar platform, its simply a resurrection of their original 2nd pillar, the GameBoy series! They were just waiting for the tech to be good enough for home console use as well. The Gameboy Player was quite a popular accessory after all.

But they don't call it the third pillar. They just said it's not the successor of Wii U (1st pillar) and 3ds (successor of DS, the third pillar). So it's pretty much the second pillar.

 

[TheMoon]

Still trying to find a SD card slot on this thing

it would have to be on the bottom or Joy-Con connector insides or behind a removable plate like on the New 3DS.

 

[Starchasing]

The only possibility still open is the opening on the bottom called the 'green port' by Laura Dale: http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/report-how-nintendo-ensures-the-switch-slots-into-the-dock-correctly/.

No proof, though, but it is a possibility.

Thats a frictionless port . I would be surprised if Nintendo if Nintendo did what that post days. That system would put too much stress in the usb c port and it would eventually break. More than probably the usb type c is to charge on the go and the frictionless is hdmi out and power

 

[DownGrader]

Nintendo are wrong to call this their third pillar platform

They do not call it that way.

Officially - at least in the West; the Japanese marketing is a bit different, - Nintendo Switch is "a home console first and foremost." Nintendo keeps insisting that Nintendo 3DS will get further support (probably because they don't want to lose that Q416/Q117 3DS money), while they do not comment on the future on Wii U, mentioning that it'd be hard to find in the future.

http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-switch-a-home-gaming-system-first-and-foremost/

So it's more like their first pillar has crumbled so they brought the third one on its place instead.

 

[Hoo-doo]

I dunno, it's clearly visible on a promo shot and does look like a button.

Actually, it looks like a volume control sort of button. Maybe there are two buttons! Not the most practical way to place two of them there, but if it feels the same as using Z-buttons on Wii Classic Controller and New Nintendo 3DS, that's fine.

I think that's just the plastic slide for the locking mechanism. I doubt that they squeezed in buttons in one of the most crucial mechanical parts of the entire device. But who knows. Shoulder buttons would certainly expand the functionality of the 'Joy-cons' though. (God that's the dumbest word in the world).

 

[PSOreo]

I hope this thread is kept as a monument to all the crazy theories about the console. Did the same stuff happen with the WiiU?

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

One thing to consider is this could well not be the final model, with a few tweaks to come in the retail design. So anyone looking for ports, stylus or stuff like that, they may just not be in this pre-release version. For whatever reason.

Or maybe they don't exist at all. Who knows with Nintendo, that's all part of the fun!

 

[TheMoon]

I hope this thread is kept as a monument to all the crazy theories about the console. Did the same stuff happen with the WiiU?

all happened pre-release with leaks and stuff. plus they showed off far more stuff at the proper reveal in 2011 so there wasn't as much back and forth about little things.

 

[KingSnake]

One thing to consider is this could well not be the final model, with a few tweaks to come in the retail design. So anyone looking for ports, stylus or stuff like that, they may just not be in this pre-release version. For whatever reason.

Or maybe they don't exist at all. Who knows with Nintendo, that's all part of the fun!

We're 5 months before the launch, we're way pass the prototypes phase. Should be started production for the retail units by now and Emily Rogers said that this is indeed the case.

 

[Neiteio]

I'm pretty sure there are two "secret" shoulder buttons on the side of each joycon. FWIW, the guys playing Mario Kart may or may not actually be playing, but if they're going through the motions, it looks like they're using L and R (which you'd kind of need for items and drifting in that game).

Such buttons depress and could simply be part of what keeps it firmly in place when attached to the handheld.

 

[CharminUltra]

I need the Switch in my pants ASAP.

And I'm not talking about the pockets.

 

[Rappy]

I think this hasn't been brought up in this thread. How do people feel about the prospect of streaming to Twitch/Youtube? Think it is a high possibility with the system? Something like a Nintendo customized version of Nvidia's Shadowplay? Possible only when docked?

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

Nintendo did it y'all. I'm so hyped for this!!!

I'm pissing my pants right now. Our overlords are back. Nintendo can have all my money I just want Mariokart 8, Splatoon and Zelda botw!!!

Wow just wow!!!

 

[TheMoon]

I'm pretty sure there are two "secret" shoulder buttons on the side of each joycon. FWIW, the guys playing Mario Kart may or may not actually be playing, but if they're going through the motions, it looks like they're using L and R (which you'd kind of need for items and drifting in that game).

Such buttons depress and could simply be part of what keeps it firmly in place when attached to the handheld.

Nobody in the video is playing anything. It's all green-screen. We have this (needlessly) confirmed by one of the actors in the ad.

You can see the L/R buttons in the rooftop party segment. Plus they're slightly visible in the high-res promo shot.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1297120&page=13
Joy-Con thread.

I think this hasn't been brought up in this thread. How do people feel about the prospect of streaming to Twitch/Youtube? Think it is a high possibility with the system? Something like a Nintendo customized version of Nvidia's Shadowplay? Possible only when docked?

Sure, would love to have an easy option to record gameplay. If only to use it when arguing about game mechanics

 

[DownGrader]

One thing to consider is this could well not be the final model, with a few tweaks to come in the retail design. So anyone looking for ports, stylus or stuff like that, they may just not be in this pre-release version. For whatever reason!

While that's true, it's just half a year before the console will reach the shelves. We won't get changes as drastic as with Revolution/Wii controllers or with Wii U GamePad:

(I'm legitimately going to miss TV Remote button )

Although who knows. Apparently Wii Classic Controller was supposed to have only one Z button; three-shouldered Classic Controllers were demoed pretty late in pre-release stage:

 

[MDave]

But they don't call it the third pillar. They just said it's not the successor of Wii U (1st pillar) and 3ds (successor of DS, the third pillar). So it's pretty much the second pillar.

Oh, could of swore I read Iwata or Kimishima saying it in an investor meeting or something. Guess it was the media and press saying that at the time of reporting on the NX stuff in that investor meeting.

I think this hasn't been brought up in this thread. How do people feel about the prospect of streaming to Twitch/Youtube? Think it is a high possibility with the system? Something like a Nintendo customized version of Nvidia's Shadowplay? Possible only when docked?

Quite possible it will be one of the key points of the system, since there seems to be a share button on the controller.

 

[Psyrgery ES]

I think this hasn't been brought up in this thread. How do people feel about the prospect of streaming to Twitch/Youtube? Think it is a high possibility with the system? Something like a Nintendo customized version of Nvidia's Shadowplay? Possible only when docked?

Maybe my answer is not what you're looking for, but the Shield Tablets (old Tegra K1) can stream on Youtube and Twitch, which I guess comes from Maxwell architecture. Maybe the Switch will be able to stream as well, given that it uses Pascal

 

[ramparter]

When the Vita was launched, some people here said that one reason why it sold poorly was because people didnt want console-like games on a handheld. They rather wanted bit sized games that were easy to pick up and play. I'm curious of anyone has changed their mind on this, especially now with Nintendo Switch?

Personally, i think console like games have been on handheld all the way since the first Gameboy, so for me its no major difference. Just curious if anyone has changed their mind on this.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.

The difference is that with Vita you had to buy a second console and extra games for probably a similar but lesser experience. With Switch you can have both in one system and play the games you own on your home console.

Also there are no console games and handheld games imo. They are all games, it's just that the games that were available on DS and 3DS happened to be very different to those you would find on home consoes and that gave them the edge.

 

[LordKano]

Saw this on twitter and made me lol'd hard.

 

[TheMoon]

Oh, could of swore I read Iwata or Kimishima saying it in an investor meeting or something. Guess it was the media and press saying that at the time of reporting on the NX stuff in that investor meeting.

The whole pillar thing only ever existed when they launched the DS. Every other time you see that mentioned it comes from the press which is evoking the DS situation when using that expression.

 

[Rappy]

Maybe my answer is not what you're looking for, but the Shield Tablets (old Tegra K1) can stream on Youtube and Twitch, which I guess comes from Maxwell architecture. Maybe the Switch will be able to stream as well, given that it uses Pascal

Well that's part of why I mention it. But then there's that whole Nintendo copyrighting and whatever fiasco for Nintendo games on Youtube. But that mostly deals with monetized content, right?

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

Saw this on twitter and made me lol'd hard.

It even showed the fucking same games...

 

[ReitStuff]

So, about how many units does the Switch need to sell for Nintendo to stay in the home console business? 30M? 40M? 50M? I think the Switch looks great and desperately want it to succeed, just want to get a gauge for what I should be looking for.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Finally some positivity in here! Switch HYPE


I really want more infos in the next few weeks though lol. Here's hoping some 3rd party things will show up, even if it's unreasonable.

 

[War3333]

Any hints that it use a standard USB 3 type C connector?

Also could the Dock do some download for patch/dlc (on an external HD) and aid with routing for local multiplayer so that online still works?

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

So, about how many units does the Switch need to sell for Nintendo to stay in the home console business? 30M? 40M? 50M? I think the Switch looks great and desperately want it to succeed, just want to get a gauge for what I should be looking for.

Wiiu sold 13 million
3ds sold 60 million

Both were a dissapointment for Nintendo. NS is going to replace both. So 73 million at least or NS is a big faillure.

 

[DownGrader]

Finally some positivity in here! Switch HYPE


I really want more infos in the next few weeks though lol. Here's hoping some 3rd party things will show up, even if it's unreasonable.

My hype is currently fuelled by indie support announcements.

Wiiu sold 13 million
3ds sold 60 million

Both were a dissapointment for Nintendo. NS is going to replace both. So 73 million at least or NS is a big faillure.

Was 3DS a disappointment? I mean, it didn't quite took the torch from DS, but it performed and performs rather well in current landscape - and after a major turnaround early on, too.