Official NHL 2010 |OT| Off-Season Thread of What If Winnipeg Never Left?

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Cold-Steel said:
I have serious doubts that Gagne is going anywhere, that would be the most retarded FA move period (other than the Flames signing Jokinen).

Mezaros is a huge upgrade on Krajicek and Bartulis but his price tag is STEEP. Unlike most teams, the stars are all on the backend for the Flyers so I guess this pickup makes a lot of sense (at least from the perspective of how the team is built).

Umm you missed my point, yes he's an upgrade from their 5th-6th pairing, but it's not that much of an upgrade if he's making $4M to be the 5th pairing dman where you could have spent that money on a top 2 proven dman like Michalek or Volchenkov for the exact price.
 
Rapping Granny said:
Umm you missed my point, yes he's an upgrade from their 5th-6th pairing, but it's not that much of an upgrade if he's making $4M to be the 5th pairing dman where you could have spent that money on a top 2 proven dman like Michalek or Volchenkov for the exact price.

I noticed that, I was just commenting on the situation.

Completely agree though - but it's hard to say that the Flyers were even interested in Michalek or Volchenkov. The market might have dictated otherwise?

I just look at the Hamhuis signing for 4.5M and Pittsburgh could have easily given him that but the price they were offered was probably steeper.
 
I dunno about these Phaneuf rumours :P

While I admit, it was a little unconventional to get him for what was essentially spare parts, that Carter/Hartnell rumor never panned out for me. Everyone 'says' it happened, but the more I looked into it, the more I saw it was just a bullshit rumour started by someone with no connection to the team...

Despite the fact you guys 'claim' Phaneuf wanted out of Calgary and was insistent on a trade for months, he seemed really shocked during the interviews and in somewhat disbelief. You'd think he'd know it was coming and be eager to get out of there, but either he's a really good actor, or he was genuinely shocked (and somewhat defeated to be going to) a bottom team like the Leafs.

Now we've gone from Iginla and Regher beating up Phaneuf to Iginla having a relationship with Jokinen?! Last I checked, he was married with kids (not to say that he still couldn't be nailing Jokinen).
 
If we were to lose Gagne for someone like Turco, I think I would be more heart broken then after Game 6. Dude has been playing for the team for a decade, and has come back from multiple concussions early just because it was breaking his heart to see the team struggling on t he ice. You don't let someone like that go.
 
As this board's only Islanders fan (I think) I wholeheartedly endorse spending a fortune on Kovalchuk.

He can't possibly be any worse than the last high priced Russian we brought in on a ten year contract.
 
X26 said:
kovy going to a bottom feeder would be lame, guess he doesn't care about ever winning the cup

The core the Islanders are building is very similar to how the Blackhawks went from bottom feeders to Cup champs. Good, high draft picks multiple years in a row. We need a veteran blueliner and a healthy Rick DiPietro and then we're pretty much there. This team is better than most people realize.


Keep in mind, a healthy DiPietro was an All-Star goalie who's never had a losing record.
 
Quick Oilers rebuild update that I haven't seen posted yet:

Souray clears waivers. I think at this point we should play him, the Oilers defense looks a lot better with him than without and we have the cap space. There's alot of hate for Souray now regarding comments made last season, I say the hate is unwarranted though. He didn't have any complaints about the city, players, or the fan. He pretty much said he was frustrated that he was forced to play with an injury his first year and that he's frustrated with the lack of communication with management. But with a new coach this year I think he can turn it around. All he really needs to do is have 1 interview with a reporter stating his recommitment to the team and I'm sure the Edmonton fans will like him again. I mean we all hated Comrie when he left the city, then he came back, scored a bit in the preseason and everyone liked him again.

Also, Oilers pick up AHL MVP Alexandre Giroux who scored 60 goals 2 seasons ago and 106 points last season. He's an AHL superstar that is hungry for a chance at the big leagues. He turned down bigger contracts in the KHL for a chance at the NHL with the Oilers this season.

Here's a Giroux video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oelLQRwtfNU&feature=fvw

Guys got offensive talent, but apparently sucks defensively and his skating is questionable. Regardless, he has a 1 year 500k contract with us so it doesn't hurt for him to try out. At the very worse he'll be a great addition to the farm team.
 
Can't complain too much, but damn, the fact that days two and three of ufa season have been so uneventful makes the season seem even further away. Shocked that Kovalchuk, Frolov, Turco, Nabokov, among others, still don't have a home. Hopefully some signings go down tomorrow, I can't remember the last time free agency was as dead as this so early. There has been ONE signing today. I guess it might be due to the fact it isn't a particularly deep year, but this is torture.
 
R_GILL said:
From Dregers twitter:

Would Kovalchuk consider the Islanders? Why not? Rumblings the Isles may make a mega millions, mega year pitch. They need the contract.

Charles Wang needs more star power to get his Arena project pushed forward...

One source suggests the Isles offer to be $10 mil x 10 yrs. Yikes!

YES YES YES YES YES
 
TeethMummy said:
As this board's only Islanders fan (I think) I wholeheartedly endorse spending a fortune on Kovalchuk.

He can't possibly be any worse than the last high priced Russian we brought in on a ten year contract.

What is it with the Isles and their unconventional contracts?

Biggest risk with Dipietro was injury. He's been injured a hellva lot. He's a drain on resources and the fact your GM had to get two OTHER goalies speaks volumes. He may have a winning record and may have been an all-star, but he's a shadow of his former self and each injury seems to take him down a peg more and makes him a bit slower too.

You guys are STILL paying Yashin, but now you want Kovy for 10 years for 10 mil?! And here I thought the Islanders were going in the right direction...
 
I think seeing Niemi vs. Leighton in the Cup final drove GM's away from high-priced goalies. Plus I guess there's an abundance of cheap, decent goalies out there. Raycroft, Auld, Mason all signed for relatively little.

Maybe the mentality these days is that a strong D-core wins championships? I mean Hamhuis/Volchenkov/Martin/Michalek aren't what you would consider household D-men names yet they were hyped as the players who could demand top-pairing money.
 
Lone_Prodigy said:
I think seeing Niemi vs. Leighton in the Cup final drove GM's away from high-priced goalies. Plus I guess there's an abundance of cheap, decent goalies out there. Raycroft, Auld, Mason all signed for relatively little.

Maybe the mentality these days is that a strong D-core wins championships? I mean Hamhuis/Volchenkov/Martin/Michalek aren't what you would consider household D-men names yet they were hyped as the players who could demand top-pairing money.

:lol :lol :lol
 
Fun fact: Alexei Yashin was the Islanders' largest cap hit last season at $4.755M.
Rick DiPietro: $4.5M, Mark Streitt: $4.1M, John Tavares: $3.75M.
 
bishoptl said:
What are you laughing at? Raycroft did a more than serviceable job last season.

As a backup to one of the league's premiere goaltenders, sure. Let's also keep in mind that your 'nucks were a pretty damned good team in front of him, too. I guess I'm thinking more about the last time he was given the starting position, and the implication that another team would want to do that again. I wouldn't want a goaltender that could be mentioned in the same level of quality as Raycroft backstopping my team, regardless of price, but maybe that's just me.
 
OnPoint said:
As a backup to one of the league's premiere goaltenders, sure. Let's also keep in mind that your 'nucks were a pretty damned good team in front of him, too. I guess I'm thinking more about the last time he was given the starting position, and the implication that another team would want to do that again. I wouldn't want a goaltender that could be mentioned in the same level of quality as Raycroft backstopping my team, regardless of price, but maybe that's just me.
I actually think Raycroft is a better, more focused goaltender now and deserves the title "decent". But we'll see how he pans out this season.
 
TeethMummy said:
As this board's only Islanders fan (I think) I wholeheartedly endorse spending a fortune on Kovalchuk.

He can't possibly be any worse than the last high priced Russian we brought in on a ten year contract.

They're my #2 team behind the Wings. I love the Islanders.
 
ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun tweeted Friday: "Mike Modano via text message says Red Wings only team to call so far but said, 'if there is only one not a bad one to be.' "

Come to Detroit, Mike. We'll welcome you with open arms.
 
Takao said:
If we were to lose Gagne for someone like Turco, I think I would be more heart broken then after Game 6. Dude has been playing for the team for a decade, and has come back from multiple concussions early just because it was breaking his heart to see the team struggling on t he ice. You don't let someone like that go.


I hate to see him go but I am in favor of anything that makes it so Leighton is not our goalie next year. I never want to see him play for the Flyers again. Also lol at the Islanders if they sign Kovalchuk for that much money. Guy is a loser. I wouldnt want him on my team at all after what he did in the playoffs this year.
 
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Why didn't Kovalchuk stay in Atlanta if he's getting offered the same money? It's not like the Isles are some cup contenders or something....

Youth and Talent with some type of future unlike the Atlanta back then.
 
Rapping Granny said:
Youth and Talent with some type of future unlike the Atlanta back then.

Bogosian, Little, E Kane > Tavares, Okposo, Bailey

Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Why didn't Kovalchuk stay in Atlanta if he's getting offered the same money? It's not like the Isles are some cup contenders or something....

Who said he is actually signing with the Islanders, just because they offered him that contract doesn't mean he is actually going there. All indications still point to him wanting to go to LA.
 
TeethMummy said:
As this board's only Islanders fan (I think) I wholeheartedly endorse spending a fortune on Kovalchuk.

He can't possibly be any worse than the last high priced Russian we brought in on a ten year contract.

I try to pop in from time to time, but I lurk more than i post for sure...

Dr.Guru of Peru said:

I can't believe the Islanders would offer another insane contract after the DiPietro/Yashin debacles, but who knows... they are still like 9 million from the cap FLOOR...
 
Dr.Guru of Peru said:
On the one hand, this is terrific news since this means that Kovalchuk will not play for the Kings and therefore not make such a Western opponent more difficult. On the other hand, this kinda sucks because one of the NHL's premier stars is reduced to a bottom-dweller and a contract that severely restrains that team's potential to attract other talent.
 
But then... I'd ask who the shit is Kordell. I knew Kobe and Alex right off the bat.

That's a really recent post anyway. It's not like Eric Lindros is currently a major power forward lighting up the league.

I wonder if Crosby as a household name is close to being as well-known as Kobe.
 
nourali2 said:
But then... I'd ask who the shit is Kordell.

That's a really recent post anyway. It's not like Eric Lindros is currently a major power forward lighting up the league.

I wonder if Crosby as a household name is close to being as well-known as Kobe.

Not even close
 
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