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Buying a 4K TV for PS4K thread!
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the_batman
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good god, 5000 for a tv?
i'm waiting for the sales after christmas, they're usually the best of the year.
i'm waiting for the sales after christmas, they're usually the best of the year.
Aztechnology
Member
What's your budget?
I ordered the 65 inch..my shipping weight shows 117 or something crazy like that. The specs online thought show shipping weight at 67 ish.
Yeah not sure why the shipping weight is so high
Mine shipped earlier this week as well (65 inch) and its listed at 119 pounds. Very weird, as t should be about 67
£500 - £600
What's so special about the Rtings pattern that any backlight bleeding will suddenly appear from nowhere? Nah, I'm over the moon with this panel and have no intention of going out of my way looking for faults
GinoFelino
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That's why I said what was claimed and who claimed it. I didn't say it was LG, I didn't say it was official. It's up to you what you do with the info, but it's pertinent information regardless.
But at basically the same time, a dude at AVSForums received an email from LG Support stating the exact same thing Vincent Teoh was claiming; HDR Game Mode was off the table. LG engineers couldn't make it work with current hardware.
Nobody knows what the future might bring, but I know some here were expecting HDR Game Mode in the near future, and that's just not happening anymore.
GinoFelino
Member
You should look for a TV called the Samsung KS7000 and just buy that one.
the_batman
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input lag, breh
GinoFelino
Member
KS7000 for EU region (+ UK).
Aztechnology
Member
I kind of need to know where you plan to have it, distance from the screen you plan to sit. What kind of features are important etc. That's usually a big deciding factor when it forms to choosing a TV vs a monitor.
thegodsend
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I know that everyone is raving about the KS-series from Samsung here but I have some spare money and would really like to have a OLED display.
Does anyone have the LG OLED55B6 series and is it good for gaming, especially the latency?
Does anyone have the LG OLED55B6 series and is it good for gaming, especially the latency?
Quick Mustard
Member
Yea, I was confused at this as well.
Bit stupid for Samsung to just use a lower number for the UK / EU model for the same TV as the KS8000, but bought the KS7000 myself from Richer Sounds and waiting for it to turn up next week.
GinoFelino
Member
The latency is average for gaming. In HDR mode, it's at the limit of being acceptable.
Blackpanther25
Member
I really wanted the LG B6 but after all the comments on this thread and ratings.com, I have to go with KS8000.
the_batman
Banned
check it http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d/settings
the room my tv is in is dark but i prefer having it a little higher, up to 4
Thanks! Did you also leave brightness at one?
ubersticky
Member
How's the LG 43UH603V ?
I understand OLED doesn't have the inherent issues of a curved screen unlike LED, but I just dislike the very idea of it. They're the same price here where I'm at ($2,000), so it's really down to that difference (curved or not), the variable input lag of the B6P, no HDR for Game Mode, and no Android TV that's stopping me really.
The main difference is viewing angles and static contrast. VA will have better static contrast, but the IPS will have a much lesser loss of saturation when viewed at an angle (or off-axis viewing as someone has already said). Check out the video on rtings.com for an example of saturation loss on off-angle viewing. If it wasn't such a hassle of returning the XBR49X800D (I bought it from an online retailer), I would have slimmed down and gotten the 43" instead because I value the better contrast after viewing the 49", but I chose size prioritizing guest viewing.
Not sure. I haven't looked deeply into it as I would have probably gotten a KS8000 if the leg stands weren't an immediate issue honestly. Wall mounting was out of the question and replacing the TV stand wasn't either, so the price point and TV stand of the X800D made the difference in my decision.
Are there currently ANY 4KTVs that fulfill the expectations for 4K gaming without any of the downsides? It seems like the TVs that keep getting mentioned in these threads come with cons that keep me from jumping in, like how the KS8000 has motion blur or how most OLEDs have huge input lag when using HDR.
Futurevoid
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God yes. Sony just released a firmware update that halved the input lag on the set with HDR down to 58ms too. A friend of mine who's a dealer for them told me they have two more updates coming to address the issue further.
It's a great set and PQ wise, I thought it was overall a better set than the KS8000. It completely blows away the x800. (I'm assuming the XD93 is the equivalent of the X930D here in the states).
4K or not, buying a TV is all about the pros and cons. What are you willing to live with and what's a deal breaker? It's been that way forever. Even back to the days of plasma vs LED, etc. Its no different here and ts exacerbated by the fact that we're still at the ground level with HDR, etc.
2017 sets may bring the holy grail of 4K TV's. It's why some are choosing to wait. If your jumping in now, you've gotta do your research and see which set checks the most boxes for you.
Well, on the B6 at least, HDR mode performs the same or better than standard mode. Most modes come in ~44ms or so which still feels responsive.
Basically, I just want to make sure whatever 4K TV I get is a full improvement over my current TV: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCGRLUI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It would have to be an improvement in all areas, not just 4K content. If anyone can name some current 4K TVs that also offer an improvement to 1080p and so on based on what I have, I would appreciate the reference.
It would have to be an improvement in all areas, not just 4K content. If anyone can name some current 4K TVs that also offer an improvement to 1080p and so on based on what I have, I would appreciate the reference.
You really have to test it yourself and find your own acceptance and tolerance levels. A number can only say so much about how you perceive that as an noticeable issue or not. It's very much an issue dependent on an individual person's threshold. I'm okay with 50 ms of input lag personally. Some others need something like 20 ms that the KS8000 offers.
This is more or less the upgraded version of your TV with similar specs.
And this is the high end version of that.
No 2016 Samsung model is going to have 3D though, keep that in mind.
A poster from another thread said that the KS8000 series had worse 1080p output compared to my TV, so I'm hesitant on that.
What does the 9000 series offer that makes it better? And is there a 60 inch version? 65 might be pushing it with my room setup.
What's your current TV? The rating for HD content on the rtings.com review was stellar for the KS8000 and my limited experience with our 65" model confirms that. Though I haven't been able to put it side by side with our four-year old 1080p set (they're in different states), I thought it was a clear improvement in brightness and black level.
So much so that I'm still really tempted to pick up a 55" as well. Tempting. Really tempting, especially now that I've found someone who wants the older set.
Theman2k
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I had the chance to check out an LG OLED demo yesterday.
I must admit, it really is something else. I have never seen LED demo with 4K+HDR before so I don't know if it's only by the OLED, but the picture is really life like.
I can truly understand now way better how hard it is to sell 4K+HDR without seeing it in real life.
After this I feel that 8-16K displays with 12,000NITS will hit the uncanny valley between real life. Really great stuff ! But now I feel I won't enjoy the PRO that much on my 1080p plasma as I would with HDR (which strike me as more important then the 4K resolution).
From one end I am hyped, on the other I just have a hard time to gather funds to upgrade my TV set.
I must admit, it really is something else. I have never seen LED demo with 4K+HDR before so I don't know if it's only by the OLED, but the picture is really life like.
I can truly understand now way better how hard it is to sell 4K+HDR without seeing it in real life.
After this I feel that 8-16K displays with 12,000NITS will hit the uncanny valley between real life. Really great stuff ! But now I feel I won't enjoy the PRO that much on my 1080p plasma as I would with HDR (which strike me as more important then the 4K resolution).
From one end I am hyped, on the other I just have a hard time to gather funds to upgrade my TV set.
Future PhaZe
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I think something to keep in mind is that you want low input lag, 4K, HDR and a good price when discussing potential televisions. There are many, many better options than the KS8000 or X800D but you are going to find they cost 4x the price, have double the input lag which for gaming can make a difference. Ideally we all would want to game on a 75" Sony Z9D or LG OLED, but if the gaming is affected, is it worth it. Not to say you cannot game with high input lag. We have been gaming for years with shit televisions and high lag, many of you will never even notice a difference between 22 ms or 60ms etc. But many also will.
One of the coolest things about VR has been essentially no input lag, I'm so much better at Thumper than I thought I'd be. People say it gets brutally difficult and I haven't had any issues so far playing exclusively in VR.
If you play fighting or shooters competitively I'd worry about input lag but other than that it really isn't going to harm any single player experiences as long as it isn't horrendously bad. But even rhythm games like Rock Band you can adjust to.
Omnistalgic
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lemme get like $50 brah
Futurevoid
Member
B6 is all setup and purring. She's a beaut, Clark!
Why? Could still enjoy some nice 4K content if it's a smart TV in the mean time. Watch them 4K game trailers
Mine "shipped" the same day and received a notification yesterday. Likely they just created a shipping notice and it finally started moving yesterday. But AGS has crap tracking and this is all I see for now (I love that their system is copyrighted 1999):
So I've been in to John Lewis in town and pervd over the Sony and Samsung screens. All beautiful. Then I notice that the 55" XD93 on display doesn't look great.
It only had an rf lead plugged in. No hdmi. Just rf. Like. What.
Wife is saying wait for the new year to buy a bigger one in a sale lol.
It only had an rf lead plugged in. No hdmi. Just rf. Like. What.
Wife is saying wait for the new year to buy a bigger one in a sale lol.
Domcorleone
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What are the supposed issues with the KS8000 60"? I think 65 is a bit too big for my room in my apt and 60 is the perfect size. I just dont want to get a dud if its being manufactured eslewhere.
AngelOFDeath
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As looking around and speaking to some people, the complaints have been that the Sharp panel that comes with the 60 "isn't as good" as the panels in the other sizes. Some other reports I've seen were more light bleeding reports vs 65, now I cannot say this is true but like you I was concerned. I have convinced myself that 65 will fit, even though it is going to look glorious, it might be too big for me..... but screw it lol.
As a poster from GAF stated, he didn't want to chance it and just shelved the extra cash for the possibility of having a better quality. So its completely up to you, but I am aiming for 65 after almost chasing 60
Marvel
could never
Yeaaaah I could but I kinda want the 10th to feel like some kinda extra birthday/christmas lol. Only have a PS3 currently also, so happy to wait for my Pro.Why? Could still enjoy some nice 4K content if it's a smart TV in the mean time. Watch them 4K game trailers
Also I'm disabled and can't hook it all up by myself atm.
Why? Could still enjoy some nice 4K content if it's a smart TV in the mean time. Watch them 4K game trailers
Mine "shipped" the same day and received a notification yesterday. Likely they just created a shipping notice and it finally started moving yesterday. But AGS has crap tracking and this is all I see for now (I love that their system is copyrighted 1999):
Mine shipped as well. Through AGS...tracking just says the 'Alerted: in transit' and then 'Status:in transit'
Not sure exactly what that means. Just hope I get it by Thursday for the Pro. I got shipping notification on 10/31.
Edit: Curious what the 'departed' part of your tracking implies?
Figured this would be a good place to ask this.
Since my TV only does HDR on one of the HDMI ports would this be a good solution?
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15262
Just not sure it has all the correct specs to make sure I still get the proper 4k 60hz etc. Seems to indicate so but I am leery.
Since my TV only does HDR on one of the HDMI ports would this be a good solution?
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15262
Just not sure it has all the correct specs to make sure I still get the proper 4k 60hz etc. Seems to indicate so but I am leery.
Wish we could have a ranking of the most recommended 4K TVs, as well as whatever pros/cons they have.
I might still bite the bullet and get a KS8000 this weekend from Best Buy. What are BB's policies regarding price drops from now until Black Friday?
And are there any TVs on sale at Best Buy that might be better than the KS8000 (while costing a little more)?
And is 60 inches highly recommended for 4K? My current TV is 55, but I don't mind going 5 inches more if it's that big a difference.
And again, for reference this is my current TV: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCGRLUI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I could probably sell it on Craigslist for roughly the amount listed here, so just help educate me on picking the best TV within the price range (or if I should still wait it out).
I might still bite the bullet and get a KS8000 this weekend from Best Buy. What are BB's policies regarding price drops from now until Black Friday?
And are there any TVs on sale at Best Buy that might be better than the KS8000 (while costing a little more)?
And is 60 inches highly recommended for 4K? My current TV is 55, but I don't mind going 5 inches more if it's that big a difference.
And again, for reference this is my current TV: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCGRLUI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I could probably sell it on Craigslist for roughly the amount listed here, so just help educate me on picking the best TV within the price range (or if I should still wait it out).
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