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Nintendo Switch Presentation - January 12th
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Glass Rebel
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Dee Dah Dave
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We now saying no Zelda at launch and Mario instead?
Jon Carter
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I'd say it's impossible, but four years ago I would have said it's impossible for the Wii's successor to sell less than 15 million units, so you never know.
NinjaCoachZ
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The Wii U took 3-4 years to do Dreamcast numbers. There is probably never going to be a bomb that bad again.
People seem outraged about the idea of having 2 great games at launch for whatever reason. /jk
I honestly think that Nintendo could open their January presentation reading out "Mein Kampf" and this still wouldn't happen.
Of course, a Switch that sells, say, 20 million units lifetime would be rather abysmal despite being better than Wii U.
Right now, I don't see why the Switch doesn't have a shot at selling moderately successful numbers. In fact, if Nintendo plays their cards right, I'd say this could be a hit.
Haha right before you posted this I was searching my phone's keypad options for an infinity symbol when I had the same thought.
People always assume WiiU is an accident, when it is really more the result of a path than an accident.
That said IF, and i emphasize on the IF, the Switch is meant to replace the 3ds, it's going to do more automatically.
Now IF the Switch is, or becomes at some point an independant and isolated platform, not being the main Nintendo portable, well.. who knows then..
Dark Cloud
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More courses, characters and a true Battle Mode.
BronzeWolf
Banned
I don't think it's possible. I am guessing the Switch will sell 30 M at the lowest "We fucked it up" end.
Splatoon: Splatted Toons
they did just that in 2013
but yeah, Nintendo likes to have a big holiday game. Next year, if not Zelda or 3D Mario, then what? Maybe 2D Mario?
NinjaCoachZ
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Yeah I mean, I think that Nintendo basically brought the Wii U upon themselves, but I think that at this point in time it was the kick in the butt they needed to realize that what they were doing with consoles was unsustainable. So I think in the future something like that is probably not likely to happen again. Plus as you say their handhelds have always been successful.
It was the moment of realization, basically.
GinoFelino
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The thought of lovely Japanese men reading out offensive German text at a press conference made me laugh more than I wanted to.
Pokemaniac
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Half old new content and half old content describes literally every Mario Kart since DS. If that is what the Mario Kart Switch has, and there is an "8" anywhere in the title, then Nintendo messed up.
Similarly, any hypothetical Splatoon sequel would most likely contain a decent amount of content from the first one (at least in multiplayer, not so much in single player).
I will be somewhat surprised if these games can't be reasonably described as sequels.
Similarly, any hypothetical Splatoon sequel would most likely contain a decent amount of content from the first one (at least in multiplayer, not so much in single player).
I will be somewhat surprised if these games can't be reasonably described as sequels.
Kimishima said in that interview with Bloomberg that they've looked at Wii and other successful consoles in their first year because they see the first year as the most important for gaining momentum. (Yes, I know this sounds like Wii U)
So how will they gain momentum?
They rely on heavy hitters like Mario, Smash Bros and Pokémon but they can't have them all launch at the exact same time.
List of hypothetical titles that are likely to release in the first year:
Zelda BotW
Super Mario Switch
Mario Kart 8 Switch
Splatoon Switch
Smash Bros for Switch
Pokémon
And that's all we're really sure of, those are heavy hitters where there are likely to be smaller titles in-between.
Whether it sounds like overkill to release all those games in the first year, think about how Wii U did terribly in 2013.
Plus, releasing these titles in the first year also helps to release DLC over time as well. (Referring to Smash, Mario Kart, Splatoon.)
Half of the titles are practically ports since they're not new titles that had to be built from scratch.
So how will they gain momentum?
They rely on heavy hitters like Mario, Smash Bros and Pokémon but they can't have them all launch at the exact same time.
List of hypothetical titles that are likely to release in the first year:
Zelda BotW
Super Mario Switch
Mario Kart 8 Switch
Splatoon Switch
Smash Bros for Switch
Pokémon
And that's all we're really sure of, those are heavy hitters where there are likely to be smaller titles in-between.
Whether it sounds like overkill to release all those games in the first year, think about how Wii U did terribly in 2013.
Plus, releasing these titles in the first year also helps to release DLC over time as well. (Referring to Smash, Mario Kart, Splatoon.)
Half of the titles are practically ports since they're not new titles that had to be built from scratch.
Vampirolol
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After Wii U, any level of bombing is possible. But overall I'm confident that this will reach Gamecube sales, since this time Nintendo seems to believe in the system.
I think they better off skipping that and releasing Pokken Switch Tournament in the fall or 2018. Make it similar to Tekken Tag Tournament using the same engine and graphics but adding a ton of Pokemon.
Pre-reveal, I distinctly remember comments saying that Nintendo could not possibly be confident in the NX since they were keeping the reveal so close to launch.
Now, we get comments like yours. Nintendo sure is a roller-coaster company.
I agree with this
Launch Window
Zelda BotW
Super Mario 128
Q2
Super Smash Bros Ultimate (port All DLC and new characters)
Pikmin 4
Q3
Mario Kart Switch (proper sequel with some tracks from Mario Kart 8, all MK8 cups/tracks will be eventually added ands free DLC)
Fire Emblem Warriors (Dynasty Warriors spin off)
Q4
Pokemon Eclipse
Retro New IP
Spla2oon (sequel but reuses alot of assets from Splatoon)
That's 9 big Nintendo published retail games in 1 year. Not including 3rd party games. Which I'm sure they can manage to get things like Tekken and we already know about Skyrim.
Dark Cloud
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What's everybody's biggest want for the Splatoon Switch port game? Since it will have more content I would love for them to focus on the single player aspect more. Make a more fleshed out single player mode.
Since Switch seems to promote the local MP thing quite a bit, I would love if Splatoon Switch would get some decent local MP modes.
Yeah, definitely! Great idea actually.
Not sure if you played Sunset Overdrive, but some moments in that are basically Gears horde mode but with a lot of color. Looked awesome.
Would love to see it with Splatoon's mechanics.
James Scott
Banned
I really think they should make a couple of local multiplayer modes. Right now you'd need 8 people to play Splatoon matches offline, so unless they add bots local multiplayer will be limited to that dumb balloon thing.
Splatoon Switch should be pretty massive in Japan if they can manage that
Oooh good point. I did (SO is excellent) and that's sort of what I am thinking. Plus with the ink mechanics there could be some really creative variations on that kind of thing. A testament to how cool the design of Splatoon is and how much it could benefit from iteration.
They were defending the product they released at the time. It would've been a substantial effort after that point to add the battle mode, but a re-release for a new console would be a perfect opportunity to add it in.
Angry Chair
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I wouldn't classify someone saying the Switch will reach Gamecube numbers as a positive comment even after the Wii U. That would still be a disaster.
James Scott
Banned
Unless it gets renamed into SWiitchU and is $350 at launch, I don't think it's possible to sell much worse than Wii U.
Being their only nintendo hardware they can do a lot more to ensure it sell at least moderately well.
I could see the Switch selling less than Wii U/GCN if there's a Switch 2.0 upgrade, but at that point it wouldnt' really matter since it's the installbase isn't limited by the first device.
TheDinoman
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Emily's recent tweets about the MK/Spatoon "portquels" actually reminds me something our man Serkan Toto said about Smash awhile back.
He never actually specified it to be a "port", he only said his source saw that were was a new Smash Bros. coming "for launch."
He never actually specified it to be a "port", he only said his source saw that were was a new Smash Bros. coming "for launch."
I'd want a brand new campaign, and some more local multiplayer options. I really loved the campaign in the original, and I'd love to see if they could top it.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Emily's recent tweets about the MK/Spatoon "portquels" actually reminds me something our man Serkan Toto said about Smash awhile back.
He never actually specified it to be a "port", he only said his source saw that were was a new Smash Bros. coming "for launch."
You don't have to be a genius to figure out it's a port of the Wii U game.
Great idea but they won't do that. Harada is busy as it is, we're lucky that we're getting new characters from him. Ultimate edition for switch with arcade only characters and couple of gen 7 ones (Decidueye and Kommo-o hopefully) for launch or launch window would be perfect.
TheDinoman
Member
Point is, it sounds like a "port" in the same way Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon are going to be. As in, blurring the line between "port" and "new game", as Emily put it.
Should they bundle Mario Kart with the Switch?
If this news about Mario Kart is true... I think it would make a good game to bundle it with the hardware. I mean, if it's basically Mario Kart 8+ i don't know if i'm going to put down another 50 or 60 bucks for it (again). However, getting it for "free" with the system, would be a big incentive, as a WiiU owner, to "make the switch". Also for non-WiiU owners, it would be a big thing, instantly a big online game. It would probably also be less costly to make (since it's an enhanced port).
If this news about Mario Kart is true... I think it would make a good game to bundle it with the hardware. I mean, if it's basically Mario Kart 8+ i don't know if i'm going to put down another 50 or 60 bucks for it (again). However, getting it for "free" with the system, would be a big incentive, as a WiiU owner, to "make the switch". Also for non-WiiU owners, it would be a big thing, instantly a big online game. It would probably also be less costly to make (since it's an enhanced port).
To be honest I don't expect a new Smash Bros to ever come again. Only ports with new content added.
TheBaldEmperor
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Can't wait to finally see the Cloud and Bayonetta amiibos. You know they will push those two when Smash is released.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I get why that sounds appealing but eventually interest in Smash 4 will wane and demand for a sequel will go up. Even Street Fighter II got a sequel eventually. Plus Smash gets a lot of hype and attention pre-release and that's something they wouldn't be able to do if they just stick to updating one game forever and forever.
ShockingAlberto
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So like the single player Octogirl levels but multiplayer and unlimited?
Voysa Reezun
Banned
I would be good with Smash 4 with four new characters for Switch. They can get mileage out of that and start what I am sure is a devilishly long dev cycle for Smash 5.
Gimme Captain Toad, Kevin Keene, Cartoon Pit, and King Hippo, plz.
Gimme Captain Toad, Kevin Keene, Cartoon Pit, and King Hippo, plz.
James Scott
Banned
If they have nothing else, sure. Though you do risk the consumer feeling they dont' need to buy another game for awhile since MK8+it's DLC is a pretty great value as is.
If the Nintendo Switch is $300 they really should consider bundling in something, but a shorter experience like Nintendo Land or Wii Sports would be better.
BronzeWolf
Banned
A bundle makes sense for Holiday 2017
KratosEnergyDrink
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TheDinoman
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Voysa Reezun
Banned
All those characters and yet no Ice Climbers and Inklings...
Oh yeah two characters that I don't give two shits about.
Just be glad I didn't ask for Geno and Rayman, huh?
Probably because it was the first Nintendo game with platforming elements that mapped camera control to the right analog (the Gamecube's crappy C-stick in Sunshine doesn't count).