All those characters and yet no Ice Climbers and Inklings...
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Nintendo Switch Presentation - January 12th
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That would be great.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
TBH I'm not expecting any new characters for Smash at all.
They'll need more than better graphics to get people to rebuy the game.
The point is, that a lot of WiiU owners, which will be among the most early adopters for the Switch, already bought Mario Kart 8. On the other hand, this will not be as costly for Nintendo to make, since they are basically tweaking MK8 and adding some modes. So, it's easier to bundle it, than say something like Pikmin 4 or Zelda BotW. And getting Mario Kart 8+ free with the system, might establish a community early on as well, which would not be the case with Nintendoland. Mario Kart is also an ideal game for the concept of the switch. Play on the go, continue playing at home.
TheDinoman
Member
Honestly, it'd look pretty bad on Sakurai's part if Splatoon and Mario Kart 8 got new shit and incentives to buy them while Smash only got a dinky little straight port.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
There's like 58 characters in the game and you want more? Plus it's Smash Bros. It'll sell.
There's probably some extra content and a new mode but I think that'll be it.
Yeah, maybe. Also, I don't really see the need for a bundle at launch unless they've figured out the next Wii Sports.
TheDinoman
Member
You could say the same for Mario Kart 8. They don't need to add anything because "it's Mario Kart. It'll sell" (Both MK7 and MK8 outsold both Smash games this gen). And yet they're adding onto it. And yes, I want more because a fully new original Smash game is years off and I'd like to see them keep the hype train going a bit more. I don't want to wait like five years to see the Ice Climbers again...only for like 10 other characters to get cut from the roster.
And if they are to invest in "extra content", I'd imagine they would invest in, you know, characters, which are the main driving force of Smash. Nobody would of given a shit about Smash 4's DLC period if it was just stages and modes. Look at this quote from the man himself.
http://sourcegaming.info/2016/02/09/famitsu499/
Just look at how people went nuts over Cloud and Bayonetta. Adding new content to Smash Switch but not adding new characters is like if Mario Kart 8.5 had new racers but no new race tracks. It'd be pointless as hell.
Dark Cloud
Member
Ice Climbers will be there no question.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Hopefully the 3DS stages since its a hybrid... magicant will look beautiful in hd
Captain Europe
Member
I'm 100% certain it's going to have new characters, they gotta give those millions of Smash Wii U/3DS owners some incentive to upgrade. Definitely expecting an Inkling.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I'm thinking the majority of new characters will be from first party Wii U titles, there's a lot to choose from.
Inkling (Splatoon)
Elma (XCX)
Paper Mario
Lana or Cia (Hyrule Warriors)
New Pokémon from Sun and Moon
Wonder Red (Wonderful 101, Yeah it's probably unlikely)
Tsubasa or Kiria (Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE)
Can't be certain how many players would be added in anyway, the game would probably fill a 32GB game card too compared to the 16GB standard. Hence why I can see this becoming a holiday release compared to Zelda BotW or the new Mario.
It makes much more sense to bundle ports the latest itterations of Nintendo's Local Multiplayer classics at launch (Mario Kart, Smash, Splatoon and Mario Maker) since all of those games easily fit under the games as a service model. Nintendo can subsidize the cost of the new console's advanced hardware with bundled/cheap software.
This Also builds goodwill with WiiU owners as they wont be forced to rebuy the games they already have on the WiiU.
Having this many Hard Hitting essential nintendo games in the first month
ZELDA + Ports allows Nintendo to rapidly build an install base, which in turn keeps 3rd parties interested. Most of whom will likely have one launch game, then wait and see how it does. If the Switch does well Every 3rd party game at E3 will be coming to Switch Holiday 2017. If not they will bail early and the Switch will be DoA in 3 months
This Also builds goodwill with WiiU owners as they wont be forced to rebuy the games they already have on the WiiU.
Having this many Hard Hitting essential nintendo games in the first month
ZELDA + Ports allows Nintendo to rapidly build an install base, which in turn keeps 3rd parties interested. Most of whom will likely have one launch game, then wait and see how it does. If the Switch does well Every 3rd party game at E3 will be coming to Switch Holiday 2017. If not they will bail early and the Switch will be DoA in 3 months
TheDinoman
Member
I'm pretty sure there's more to Mario Kart 8.5 than just adding one or two new racers like King Boo. I'd eat my hat if it didn't have new cups and tracks (the main selling point of Mario Kart) because as I just said, that would be equally as pointless as Smash Switch not having new characters lol.
Dark Cloud
Member
If Nintendo doesn't want to make a new game or IP to bundle with Switch, then take the Mario Kart 8 port and bundle it with the Switch in the west and in Japan bundle Splatoon port with Switch. There's no way in hell this doesn't take off.
Splatoon Switch bundle in Japan
Mario Kart 8 Switch bundle in the west
BotW at launch
One new Nintendo IP
Maybe one more smaller Nintendo IP
Lots of third party games
This is a recipe of success-at the beginning at least.
Splatoon Switch bundle in Japan
Mario Kart 8 Switch bundle in the west
BotW at launch
One new Nintendo IP
Maybe one more smaller Nintendo IP
Lots of third party games
This is a recipe of success-at the beginning at least.
Id be suprised if there isnt a 3rd pokemon game (Sun/Moon/???) That will come to the NS in its first few months
3D Mario is obviously being saved for Holiday 2017.
As a Wii u owner all these port talks make me feel unexcited about switch latley. I mean I loved these games put 100s of hours in them but no thanks, I'm ready for proper sequels to splatoon, Mario kart 9 and smash 5. Minor updates to these titles isn't going to makw me debuy them again.
Hope Nintendo has more stuff than these ports/Zelda at launch window. If not, then new Mario title seem to be the only new exclusive game for this device.
Hope Nintendo has more stuff than these ports/Zelda at launch window. If not, then new Mario title seem to be the only new exclusive game for this device.
BronzeWolf
Banned
Mario Kart 8S makes a whole ton of sense.
Switch + Mario Kart 8S = $299 (baseline switch $249)
Zelda = $59.99
Pro Controller = $39.99
Total sale $398.98
That's what I am getting at least, if that's the case.
Switch + Mario Kart 8S = $299 (baseline switch $249)
Zelda = $59.99
Pro Controller = $39.99
Total sale $398.98
That's what I am getting at least, if that's the case.
TheDinoman
Member
Problem is, you're gonna waiting years for those, especially Smash 5. Nintendo probably wants some sort of Smash/MK/Splatoon game out in the Switch's first year.
Dark Cloud
Member
Name me one Nintendo console that had only one original Nintendo exclusive title in its launch window.
True smash5 is probably so far away. So I'm okay with theee ports but man I hope they have new titles to release in-between these ports release. I don't want them to release switch in March with Zelda but then release these ports for the next 4 months. That would be such a turn off. Instead I hope they release these ports in-between releases of new games built from ground up for the switch.
BronzeWolf
Banned
As a Wii U owner I know it sucks, but nobody bought the thing.
Mario Kart 8s
Smash Wii U
Splatoon
Almost no one played those things. For many they ARE new titles.
I can understand you wanting MK9 (& maybe Splatoon 2, to an extent), but Smash 4 came out too recently for Smash 5 to happen anytime soon. Also consider that the games weren't played by very many people, so the Switch can give these great games a 2nd chance.
TheDinoman
Member
In all fairness, Mario Kart 8 actually did really well all things considered. It still managed to sell like 8 million units, in-spite of the Wii U's small install base. It's not like poor Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze barely selling over a million units.
OrbitalBeard
Member
There are probably going to be significantly more new games than ports, so I wouldn't worry.
Agent Unknown
Member
As much as I'd love for Switch to launch with a new 3D Mario, I really hope Breath of the Wild isn't delayed, at this point a new Zelda title would probably create a lot more launch hype and buzz than another Mario game.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Technically BotW wouldn't be delayed. They never committed to it as March.
Jon Carter
Member
Wouldn't you feel like you just bought a shinier Wii U if you didn't get any completely new game?
Shikamaru Ninja
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Wny do you need a Mario Kart 9 or Smash Bros. 5? The hardware doesn't lend itself to a sequel playing differently. You want them to reinvent the wheel? Or do you realistically just want more tracks and more fighters? That's what these updates will do.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yeah, I think bundling Switch with a Wii U remaster is a pretty bad idea as well. If Nintendo does a bundle, I'm sure it'll be a new game.
This is exactly what i said a couple of posts higher up the page.
I think Nintendo would be smart to bundle Splatoon in the West as well. If they're serious about making that franchise a household name, they'd launch it with their new console worldwide.
Shikamaru Ninja
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One that is tailored to the hardware or a feature of the hardware. Most likely a new Mii Play / Nintendo Land type of game to really push the multiplayer anywhere feature.
Agent Unknown
Member
Ah, right. In any case I just hope it makes launch.
This is nice to hear.
Dude, I wouldn't sweat it. They weren't going to announce any new games (even though they kinda did) with this and they kind of used games people know to show off the system. I'm sure they will announce new games on the 12th of January.
Suburban Thug
Member
I'd rebuy the same exact game tbh
yess
No. Read my and jdstorm's posts.
Doing a bundle with a new game depends on what game that is. It will not be a top tier game (Mario, Zelda, Pokemon...). Those games will sell on their own and cost too much to produce. An enhanced port of MK8 will be significantly cheaper to produce and to bundle. They will also not release a MK9 soon afterwards, so it might very wel be the "only" MK or at least for a long time. So, you want that community as big as possible. Yet WiiU owners that have already played MK8 will be among the early adopters of the Switch, and they'll feel burnt paying full price for a port of a game they already played/paid. Especially since many WiiU owners feel burnt due to the failure of the WiiU.
Also, Wii Sports was a good bundle game, due to the nature of the Wii. I would have very little interest in playing Switch Sports however. I also didn't really find much fun in Nintendoland. So, what else? I'd personally love Pikmin 4 as a bundle game, but it also isn't for everyone. Mario Kart has universal appeal. Maybe something like Animal Crossing would fit the nature of the Switch as well, but that game could also sell on its own.
On the other hand, something like Mario Kart fits the nature of the Switch perfectly. Play small bursts on the go, do a quick time trial on the bus, finish a cup waiting at the dentist, and go online when you get home for a couple of hours. It's much more suited to the hardware (portable/home) than say Pikmin or Zelda.
jdstorm also raises a good point, that MK is a game that can work for Nintendo due to DLC sales throughout the Switch's life. In that sense, it also is of importance to get the MK community as big as possible.
I also think most people buy an extra game alongside the bundle. So they can get their "shiny new experience" anyway, especially if the pack-in game doesn't have to raise the price too much. Which again would fit an enhanced port.
It's basically the best (maybe the only way) to get an enhanced port in as many hands as possible early on. Which is in their best interest if they want to make more money on it in the long run, as well as create a thriving online community that could attract non-WiiU MK8 players as well.
Seriously, Mario Kart is a perfect fit.
BronzeWolf
Banned
That's for the bundle. Would a $249 basic switch appease you?
I stand corrected
Jon Carter
Member
I meant you personally. For me, there's no way I'm spending $440 on a new console day one to play stuff I can play on the previous generation system. At least one of the games I'll buy will be an original Switch game. If none of them interest me - which I doubt, knowing Nintendo - I'll hold off on a purchase. My Wii U is plugged into my TV right now. I can play Mario Kart 8, Splatoon or Smash Bros., and it'll be able to play the new Zelda. I have no doubt that Nintendo will unveil a more exciting launch line up in January as this was just a preview video for the hardware, but I hope they don't overdo it with Wii U remasters, ports and multiplatform games. They should distance themselves from the Wii U a little, to not give people the impression that this is the next Wii U but rather a reset for the company. The 3DS got two N64 remasters in its first six months on the market and suddenly the narrative was that all it could play was N64 ports. Four Wii U games at launch or in the launch window would be overkill.
OrbitalBeard
Member
If Mario Kart for Switch is essentially Mario Kart 9, then maybe it would be a good idea.
If it's an enhanced port of Mario Kart 8, it's a horrible idea.
"Hey guys, buy our new system. We'll even include a Wii U game for your trouble!"
Not happening.
My prediction: if Switch receives a bundled game, it'll be a new IP.
BronzeWolf
Banned
I'm good. I didn't get Mario Kart 8, and I'd rather play Zelda on the Switch than the Wii U anyway.
EDIT:
People love remasters and enhanced ports. Sales figures have shown this time and time again
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I feel like with Zelda, they wouldn't have shown so much of the game if it were still a long ways off. What I got from the delay was that they wanted to launch it with the Switch.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I think the last time a launch had a Mario platformer was way back on GBA, though? And the last one that was actually an original game was N64? Maybe it's time to have a Nintendo device launch with a Mario on day 1.