Yes, this is also a fair point. They have doubtless missed a ton of side content. You could even say that it's possible this writer has missed some important things that flesh out the mechanics that have been criticized. It is important to wait for more finalized comments about these things before jumping to conclusions.
Edge previews 40 hours of Final Fantasy XV
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Yes, this is also a fair point. They have doubtless missed a ton of side content. You could even say that it's possible this writer has missed some important things that flesh out the mechanics that have been criticized. It is important to wait for more finalized comments about these things before jumping to conclusions.
The Sum of Zero
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Eh, don't really care. Still gonna get it and play the hell out of it.
Yeah, definitely. You pretty much summed up what I was trying to convey, here, except in a more direct and streamlined fashion. The history here speaks for itself, heh. It's a fun ride, and again, this community is second to none with its in-depth analyses whenever folks calm down a bit and go all-in.
Same, same. And ultimately our interpretations of the narrative development in the more linear chapters will be among the most subjective bits possible. It is my chief concern, because it is my major love for the series, and I hope that I enjoy what Tabata's team has on-offer here. If I don't, I won't deny that my experience will be soured considerably, but I'll still try to make the best of the scenario because it's been entirely too long since I've spent some time in the whimsical multi-tonal lands of Final Fantasy, heh.
Prince of Space
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Final Fantasy XII had a similarly troubled development cycle, and ended up one of, if not the, best games in the entire series.
WickedLaharl
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I'm not sure you are thinking at all. Like i'm just here expressing my opinion on information provided but you seem to believe you caught me doing something bad.
Coolbgdog12
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Loool
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And a lot of people didn't like it when it came out. These things are fluid.
The fact that alt costumes being weaker than the main costume has a good logical reason, though. The default costumes are official battle fatigues, while the alts seem to be more casual wear. It makes total sense.
Also, lest we not forget that Bloodborne had a ton of alternate costumes that were equal, or worse than the main hunter garb. The reason being, they were more for fashion, as well as their negative stat protection. It could be a similar situation here. Perhaps one outfit is better against fire, while another is better against ice. You just can't say for sure without going in-depth.
Dynasty8
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Yeah, that was something I didn't want to know.
People here read every little detail about a game and get surprised when some of us consider a huge plot detail a big spoiler.
Dark_3nergy
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I am actually curious as to which build they played on as well. I had the fortune to play No Man's Sky for a couple of days without the Day 1 patch. The differences between getting it pre-patch and post-patch were very noticeable and changed the game play. Was it a un-patched copy? or retail copy?
Yikes, I personally disagree. I am taking my inaugural trip through Kiseki this year and I am loving it, but I'm still not sold on Persona. I don't think this amounts to XV's irrelevance. I realized by the end of Trails in the Sky: First Chapter that FFXV is unlikely to hit such incredible depth of script, but there's something to be said for a smaller-scale flashy presentation which is so utterly flashy that it can feel larger. I think there's room in my heart for Estelle and Noctis both, potentially.
Mhm, and I won't be surprised if their final review is in many ways a rehash of this article but makes certain mention of a few corrections "upon further reflection" in which the latter portions of the game do allow for some semblance of continuation "if you know where to look." 40 hours spent with the game, relative to Parish's 15 hours with 2.5 chapters, really speaks volumes to how much this fellow might have missed. It doesn't negate the fact that his impressions will likely be repeated here by players who spend twice as much time in Eos, but still, yeah.
JuanLatino
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i don't really get the FFXIII Comparison
calling the latter half of XIII openworld is actually an insult to that term
the game forces you to run hours & hours trough corridors without any variety and then comes that big green area which offers basically nothing ! A punch in your face, when you thought finally it will open up
In FF15 atleast i know that the open areas in the first half offers cities, dungeons, quests, minigames, an airship, chocobo races and some secret missions
if both parts of the game are decent enough, i don't care.
also iirc i heard it many times from other previewers, that this game will appeal to new and old fans.
calling the latter half of XIII openworld is actually an insult to that term
the game forces you to run hours & hours trough corridors without any variety and then comes that big green area which offers basically nothing ! A punch in your face, when you thought finally it will open up
In FF15 atleast i know that the open areas in the first half offers cities, dungeons, quests, minigames, an airship, chocobo races and some secret missions
if both parts of the game are decent enough, i don't care.
also iirc i heard it many times from other previewers, that this game will appeal to new and old fans.
There will be a Day 1 patch not as extensive as it would have been on Sept 30th, Tabata said it will help with the camera.
They delayed the game because the day 1 patch ''would be too big'' it should be on disc with I assume a tiny one as well.
Still no news on what the PS4 Pro enhancement gonna be besides there's gonna be a patch for it ?
AlexFlame116
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This thread is going places. Come on guys let's just try the game for ourselves.
Yes, a big field with monsters walking around and no active towns in the entire game. Yes, comparing FF XV to XIII in that regard seems a bit silly.
The linear segment doesn't sound like a "second half", plus wasn't this already reiterated by Tabata?
More like "end game". Like I'm not expecting the linear segment to be as lengthy as the open world.
Also I like tone shifts so the end game sounds interesting to me. Especially the horror comments. As long as it's not poorly designed I'll probably like it. The stealth doesn't bother me as this is an RPG...you have the option to fight head on. Not to mention, we saw stealth in that military base video a while ago, so it's not coming out of nowhere.
Plus if the conclusion is strong then great. I'll judge the rest of the story myself...you know just because one person said the story's not that strong doesn't mean everyone will share that same opinion.
Chill.
More like "end game". Like I'm not expecting the linear segment to be as lengthy as the open world.
Also I like tone shifts so the end game sounds interesting to me. Especially the horror comments. As long as it's not poorly designed I'll probably like it. The stealth doesn't bother me as this is an RPG...you have the option to fight head on. Not to mention, we saw stealth in that military base video a while ago, so it's not coming out of nowhere.
Plus if the conclusion is strong then great. I'll judge the rest of the story myself...you know just because one person said the story's not that strong doesn't mean everyone will share that same opinion.
Chill.
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nelsonroyale
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They alluded to the latter part of the game, maybe even the final sections...Didn't read any specifics that they actually finished the game, although it may be implied.
I don't even totally disagree, I doubt FFXV will come near Souls or Persona as far as my favorite games go, but I don't think it's that black and white (and I'm usually a very love-or-hate guy). A game can be my GOTY and still not even close to being as good as Persona 4 or Bloodborne. It's just the way things are.
2016 will definitely be one of these years, at least as it stands right now, maybe The Last Guardian will blow me away, but yeah, even with a Souls game this year, I don't think my GOTY will come anywhere near Bloodborne.
Vital Tundra
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I don't know, XII has a bad case of single player MMO. I enjoy it, but there is a ton of garbage in that game.
Thinking about it some more I have a feeling these stealth section will be pure ass. Like, why have it?
How much i don't care about a linear gameplay. my biggest fear is how what i'm doing in the open world portion have little to no impact on the linear portion. What would be nice it's go back in time, and it's unlock gradual side quest or side content, that would make back and forward more fun.
But I'll wait more preview or review before put my judgement...
But I'll wait more preview or review before put my judgement...
XII is a strong world with flashes of narrative brilliance restricted and often marginalized by layer after layer of padding which accentuates a cast chemistry far less engaging than the high quality of its writing should approve. It is the best-spoken and the most mature-feeling of the Final Fantasies but it is held back considerably by its frequent tendency to forget the story it is telling. Just my two cents on that front. I like that game a lot but it kind of breaks my heart sometimes.
Interesting.
I am not going to doubt that Edge's previewer played the full of the main story, though; it just seems like such a potentially catastrophic backfire if they get found out as such. The plot thickens, as it were.
Interesting.
I am not going to doubt that Edge's previewer played the full of the main story, though; it just seems like such a potentially catastrophic backfire if they get found out as such. The plot thickens, as it were.
The Last One
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I dunno, because it's a very basic thing for a game with a cover system to have? This is the first real time seamless action FF, and it makes sense to have these segments.
I don't know why people are focusing so much on this, especially when there's nothing here that suggests it's been done poorly. In fact, the short synopsis of that segment sounds really cool.
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MagnaderAlpha
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So, a part of the late game content changes mood and adds not only horror elements but stealth elements? How is this a problem? Square has injected these sorts of things in their RPGS since the SNES days. It doesn't seem like the entirety of the late game will be made up of this, just a section, which isn't too bad. Late game linearity is more of an issue, though a lot of JRPGs tend to go "event cluster" where you are whisked from event to event only to take the reins sometime after all those have been completed.
Did this person writing the article actually FINISH the game? I'm confused too, because going in depth regarding late game content tends to be reserved for reviews, not previews.
Did this person writing the article actually FINISH the game? I'm confused too, because going in depth regarding late game content tends to be reserved for reviews, not previews.
MiamiWesker
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Sounds like MGS4 which is one of my all time favorite games. First half is the standard gameplay, second half totally different with constant new mechanics and set pieces. I love variety so hopefully it surprises with some good stuff.
NoctisVsStar
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I guess I'm one of those rare breeds that don't mind stealth sections on non-stealth games. It can be a nice change of pace and add to the atmosphere of the place if well done. Like, the first Viper Manor visit in Chrono Cross is a stealth segment and it's one of my favorite sections of the game, really cool and atmospheric. A few of them are annoying and add nothing to the game (Majora's Mask comes to mind) but they're usually not as bad as people say.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I read this in Noctis voice when he's on the phone talking to cor..I blame your avatar
I think what happened here is that Edge's writer traveled back in time from a few weeks ahead of the rest of us in order to continue some side quests in the open world part of reality. Along the way, he forgot his past self hadn't yet beaten the game, so he submitted this early.
Yeah, it's really nothing new as far as JRPGs go either.
It's not like you'll be knocking on closets to draw enemies near it. There's no system like that. From what we know it's cover to stay out of an enemies FOV, and that's fine.
It doesn't matter if they have played the whole game, they're critiquing what they played. But regardless, many people hadn't even read the full article and they act like one stealth segment is the entire end game.
DiipuSurotu
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The Last One
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This sounds fucking incredible
Holy shit I'm HYPED!
SHOULD I READ IT? OMG
Blackleg-sanji1
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I read it fuck it. It's pretty hype from a gameplay perspective and a nice Change do it!
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