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[Khatoz]

Anyone been able to get a particial refund on the new price for the KS8000 65" or 60" with samsung?

 

[mrklaw]

Are you 100% certain of this? So there is no benefit of going HDR10 than HDR1000 (Dolby)?

That's the other way round. Dolby vision support includes HDR10. A TV with just HDR10 won't support Dolby vision.

TBH I'm not sure it matters at the moment - the LG OLEDs with Dolby vision don't go very bright anyway (even worse with the backlight limiting) so the even brighter requirements of Dolby will probably be wasted. Not sure what benefits the dynamic metadata might bring

 

[____]

Anyone been able to get a particial refund on the new price for the KS8000 65" or 60" with samsung?

My credit card (Discover) told me they would, but I had to call back tomorrow when that department is open.

Then I called Samsung to ask if they would do it (instead of Discover doing it) and while I was discussing with them, I decided that since the price is almost identical for the 65" for what I paid for the 60", ($26.50 difference) I'd rather just purchase the 65" and refuse delivery for the 60".

For what it's worth, the Samsung reps weren't fully knowledgeable on it, but they also didn't seem like it was out of the question to just refund the difference. I believe it was the "weekend crew" answering phones that don't normally know as much as the full-time weekday employees.

 

[Lakerchick4life]

So I went ahead and purchased the 49 inch KS8000(A 55 inch would NOT have worked in my teeny tiny bedroom would not have worked) I went through discover deals to get the 10 percent cash back..and I went ahead and ordered the TV got an order number..but NO confirmation email..and in order history it does NOT show up..and when I type in the order number it says it does NOT exist..so I talked to Discover card, they see the pending transaction for the amount of the TV so what gives..never done this before

 

[lt519]

My credit card (Discover) told me they would, but I had to call back tomorrow when that department is open.

Then I called Samsung to ask if they would do it (instead of Discover doing it) and while I was discussing with them, I decided that since the price is almost identical for the 65" for what I paid for the 60", ($26.50 difference) I'd rather just purchase the 65" and refuse delivery for the 60".

For what it's worth, the Samsung reps weren't fully knowledgeable on it, but they also didn't seem like it was out of the question to just refund the difference. I believe it was the "weekend crew" answering phones that don't normally know as much as the full-time weekday employees.

Only word of caution is they Discover pays for the service through a third party company. They explicitly say they don't match employee pricing discounts in the terms. But if you have success, please report back because then I'll do the same match for the one I bought at Best Buy.

It seems $1179 for the 60" seems the norm now. I'm hoping we see it drop more on/after Black Friday. I'd like to get closer to that $850 price but the wife and I just decided it's not with the Samsung headache to order another and return this one to Best Buy.

 

[JrBaconCheeseburger]

How much is the KS8000 49' with this EPP thing?

Also is that still working or is it dead?

Thanks

 

[____]

Only word of caution is they Discover pays for the service through a third party company. They explicitly say they don't match employee pricing discounts in the terms. But if you have success, please report back because then I'll do the same match for the one I bought at Best Buy.

It seems $1179 for the 60" seems the norm now. I'm hoping we see it drop more on/after Black Friday. I'd like to get closer to that $850 price but the wife and I just decided it's not with the Samsung headache to order another and return this one to Best Buy.

At this point I no longer need the price matching as I decided to just go with the 65 instead.

So they told me to basically cancel/return the 60" and make a new purchase for the 65" at the lower price.

Samsung advised to do this:
Refuse delivery on the 60".
The shipper will then request a return label from Samsung and ship it back.
Once Samsung receives it in their warehouse, they'll process the refund to my card.
And since I've already (today) placed the order for the 65" at the lower price, it should be on its way.

 

[lt519]

At this point I no longer need the price matching as I decided to just go with the 65 instead.

Congrats on the free upgrade

It's an excellent TV, I've been blown away by 4K Netflix and gaming. Maybe I'll attempt a price match on the employee price with Discover, worst that can happen is they reject it.

 

[Lakerchick4life]

How much is the KS8000 49' with this EPP thing?

Also is that still working or is it dead?

Thanks

Yep its working I ordered the TV about 40 minutes ago..but NO confirmation email and NOTHING shows up in order history, but chatted with discover card and the pending transaction is there, so they had no problem charging me LOL not sure what is going on really glad I wrote down the order number otherwise I would have ZERO proof

 

[Jaxec]

How can one get in on this Samsung 65" KS8000 price drop? Got a PS4 Pro yesterday and was planning on getting the 55" on Black Friday, but this price drop is tempting.

 

[Dr.Horrible]

Thoughts on the Vizio m70 d3? I'm shopping at Costco and am tempted.

 

[ItsTheNew]

Thoughts on the Vizio m70 d3? I'm shopping at Costco and am tempted.

Only 1 port is 60hz 4K, the rest are HDMI 1.4

 

[Dr.Horrible]

Only 1 port is 60hz 4K, the rest are HDMI 1.4

That shouldn't matter if I'm running everything through a receiver, right?

 

[____]

Congrats on the free upgrade

It's an excellent TV, I've been blown away by 4K Netflix and gaming. Maybe I'll attempt a price match on the employee price with Discover, worst that can happen is they reject it.

Thanks. Feels kinda crazy that this happened all by chance. I told myself no Black Friday tv craziness but this seemed unbeatable.

And I'd definitely try it and if worse comes to worse, try Samsung and maybe they'll offer it.

 

[ItsTheNew]

That shouldn't matter if I'm running everything through a receiver, right?

Not sure, every piece of tech does handshakes differently.

 

[Josue]

How much is the KS8000 49' with this EPP thing?

Also is that still working or is it dead?

Thanks

Yep its working I ordered the TV about 40 minutes ago..but NO confirmation email and NOTHING shows up in order history, but chatted with discover card and the pending transaction is there, so they had no problem charging me LOL not sure what is going on really glad I wrote down the order number otherwise I would have ZERO proof

Could someone inform me on this EPP thing and how much a 49" ks8000 would cost?

I just heard about this and really want this tv

 

[x3sphere]

That's the other way round. Dolby vision support includes HDR10. A TV with just HDR10 won't support Dolby vision.

TBH I'm not sure it matters at the moment - the LG OLEDs with Dolby vision don't go very bright anyway (even worse with the backlight limiting) so the even brighter requirements of Dolby will probably be wasted. Not sure what benefits the dynamic metadata might bring

I don't get the comments on OLED brightness, I own a C6 and with HDR content it can get bright enough to make me squint during some scenes.

 

[jasonspeed]

Anyone been able to get a particial refund on the new price for the KS8000 65" or 60" with samsung?

I ordered the 65" for $1279 on the 8th but just saw the lower price. I called Samsung today to get the price difference refund. The rep had me email her a picture of the price listed on their website and she said i'll get the refund within 3-5 days. I'm ecstatic to get this high end tv under $1100.

 

[JrBaconCheeseburger]

Really long shot here.

Any more invites for this EPP savings.

 

[Sketch_Turntable]

Really long shot here.

Any more invites for this EPP savings.

Slickdeals is saying the invites no longer work...which is too bad cause I could use that 55!

 

[Lakerchick4life]

Could someone inform me on this EPP thing and how much a 49" ks8000 would cost?

I just heard about this and really want this tv

for the 49 inch it will be 674 plus whatever tax you have in your state

 

[Lakerchick4life]

Update..just received my confirmation email AND the order shows up in order history I am a happy camper

 

[mrklaw]

I don't get the comments on OLED brightness, I own a C6 and with HDR content it can get bright enough to make me squint during some scenes.

I know what you mean, but for some reason OLED only has to get to 500nits for HDR when LCD has to get to 1000. And I think Dolby vision can to go 4000? It does just seem too bright

 

[JrBaconCheeseburger]

for the 49 inch it will be 674 plus whatever tax you have in your state

Damn that is cheap.

Someone hook me up with an invite or sell it to me for $5. IDC

 

[xerzewatt]

I ordered the 65" for $1279 on the 8th but just saw the lower price. I called Samsung today to get the price difference refund. The rep had me email her a picture of the price listed on their website and she said i'll get the refund within 3-5 days. I'm ecstatic to get this high end tv under $1100.

Same story. Really happy with their customer service even though their shipping company is atrocious.

 

[MastAndo]

Of course the price drops back down to $729 on EPP the day after I buy it on Amazon for $997 lol. If I cancel my Amazon order, and do standard shipping from Samsung, do they call to schedule delivery? I'm only home on Saturday (and after 8 PM on weekdays), so I would definitely need to arrange delivery.

 

[SilverArrow20XX]

Just ordered a 60" KS8000 from Amazon for $1,197. It's the perfect size to completely fill out the new TV table stand I got. Was all excited about the price drop, then came into this thread to find out I could get it for a couple hundred cheaper with EPP. Oh well, with no tax and free shipping, I don't think I'd be saving all that much.

 

[Josue]

You need an invite huh? I'd appreciate one from anybody

 

[Purexed]

I ordered the 65" for $1279 on the 8th but just saw the lower price. I called Samsung today to get the price difference refund. The rep had me email her a picture of the price listed on their website and she said i'll get the refund within 3-5 days. I'm ecstatic to get this high end tv under $1100.

Same here. $300 price adjustments between the two sets I bought.

 

[Jaxec]

Would really appreciate an invite if anyone is willing.

 

[DreadfulOmen]

That's the other way round. Dolby vision support includes HDR10. A TV with just HDR10 won't support Dolby vision.

TBH I'm not sure it matters at the moment - the LG OLEDs with Dolby vision don't go very bright anyway (even worse with the backlight limiting) so the even brighter requirements of Dolby will probably be wasted. Not sure what benefits the dynamic metadata might bring

Dynamic metadata will make changes on a scene by scene basis. Static will just give you one for the entire movie. Thats why some movies with hdr10 look good with bright scenes but not as good with dark scenes. Dv will make adjustments for each scene or frame. The oleds dont get as bright, but they get darker which can make up the difference.

Oleds dont require a backlight.

 

[Chamber]

I know what you mean, but for some reason OLED only has to get to 500nits for HDR when LCD has to get to 1000. And I think Dolby vision can to go 4000? It does just seem too bright

You get used to it, trust me.

2017 OLED models should be hitting 800+ nits with hopefully reduced input lag. That'll be the time to jump into the OLED pool if you ask me.

 

[Quote]

Is Tomb Raider a must-play if I haven't played it before?

Edit: wrong thread

 

[DreadfulOmen]

I know what you mean, but for some reason OLED only has to get to 500nits for HDR when LCD has to get to 1000. And I think Dolby vision can to go 4000? It does just seem too bright

When watching a movie, the entire screen will never be 4000 nits. It will be used smaller highlights.

 

[Attrition]

Same story. Really happy with their customer service even though their shipping company is atrocious.

What number did you guys call to get that price adjustment? I was just told that I would have to speak to a supervisor and that none are available till tomorrow, Monday, at 9am. Feels like I'm getting pushed around.

nvm, I didn't get their sales department on the first phone call. It's all good now.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Probably gonna be picking up a 4K tv for Pro and Scorpio, kinda been browsing through this thread. It seems like the KS8000 is the way to go? I saw some good deals on that Sony TV but some review sites were mixed on it (plus I already got the pro on a ebay deal and its not worth paying the restocking fee (80 bucks!!) to send it back).

Are their any other TV's I should be looking at for 4K/HDR? Gonna be looking for one BF/Cyber monday.

 

[MastAndo]

Just canceled with Amazon with a scheduled delivery to save $200 with the EPP deal on the 55KS8000. Hope it's not backordered or they just show up during the week instead of scheduling delivery or I'm going to be kicking myself.

 

[Geneijin]

I know what you mean, but for some reason OLED only has to get to 500nits for HDR when LCD has to get to 1000. And I think Dolby vision can to go 4000? It does just seem too bright

It's because an OLED can get far blacker than the best LED. Because of that, OLEDs don't need the same level of peak brightness as an LED to boast a similar contrast ratio for High Dynamic Range.

The golden standard for HDR10 and Dolby Vision however is 10,000 nits eventually.

Devices
The UHD Alliance supports various display technologies and consequently, have defined combinations of parameters to ensure a premium experience across a wide range of devices. In order to receive the UHD Alliance Premium Logo, the device must meet or exceed the following specifications:
• Image Resolution: 3840×2160
• Color Bit Depth: 10-bit signal
• Color Palette (Wide Color Gamut)
• Signal Input: BT.2020 color representation
• Display Reproduction: More than 90% of P3 colors
• High Dynamic Range
• SMPTE ST2084 EOTF
• A combination of peak brightness and black level either:
• More than 1000 nits peak brightness and less than 0.05 nits black level
OR
• More than 540 nits peak brightness and less than 0.0005 nits black level

- http://www.uhdalliance.org/uhd-alliance-press-releasejanuary-4-2016

As for the 4,000 number, you might be thinking of this paper, which states:

A TV display is an additive color system—red, green, blue—meaning that the brightest pixel is white. The
problem with restricting maximum brightness to 100 nits (as in TV and Blu-ray) is that the brighter the
color, the closer it becomes to white, so the color quickly becomes less saturated. For instance, the
brightest blue on a restricted-brightness display is a mere 7 nits, so a blue sky will never be as bright as it
should be. With the maximum Dolby Vision brightness of 4,000 nits using today’s monitor capabilities and
up to 10,000 nits in the future, a content creator has the range to represent a sky that is truly bright and
saturated, making it seem more natural.

Basically, the highest peak brightness possible for DV is 4000 currently.

 

[rinse82]

If someone could do a screengrab of the new price for the 65 inch that would be amazing. Gonna try and get Samsung to adjust my price.

 

[DBT85]

I know what you mean, but for some reason OLED only has to get to 500nits for HDR when LCD has to get to 1000. And I think Dolby vision can to go 4000? It does just seem too bright

I think the reason that OLED only has to go to 500 is because it can get much deeper blacks.

It's more about the contrast between the brightest and the darkest than it is absolute brightest.

 

[Auctopus]

Are there currently any 4k ASUS monitors with HDR?

 

[jasonspeed]

If someone could do a screengrab of the new price for the 65 inch that would be amazing. Gonna try and get Samsung to adjust my price.

http://i.imgur.com/3UdHFe1.jpg

 

[Geneijin]

Credits to darthbob, but if anybody is interested in a 49" Sony X800D for $650, it's available on Amazon for that right now.

Just got Best Buy to price match Amazon's $648 49" X800D.

Gonna pick it up tonight! So excited

 

[Yoshichan]

Thanks guys, but can someone confirm with a source (link) where it actually states that HDR1000 (dolby) INCLUDES HDR10? Because here http://community.us.playstation.com...R-10-vs-Dolby-Vision-for-PS4-Pro/m-p/46040671

some guy asks:

So a Samsung using Dolby Vision won't work with the PS4 Pro where HDR is concerned?

And the other guy answers:

the PS4 Pro would output to the TV but HDR would not work

So in this case, a HDR1000 TV doesn't support regular PS4 Pro HDR (HDR10)... is this just incorrect information?

 

[mrklaw]

Thanks guys, but can someone confirm with a source (link) where it actually states that HDR1000 (dolby) INCLUDES HDR10? Because here http://community.us.playstation.com...R-10-vs-Dolby-Vision-for-PS4-Pro/m-p/46040671

some guy asks:



And the other guy answers:



So in this case, a HDR1000 TV doesn't support regular PS4 Pro HDR (HDR10)... is this just incorrect information?

I'll see if I can find something. But I'm pretty sure Samsung don't even support Dolby vision so that information is already incorrect. AFAIK all HDR TVs support HDR10, and LG also supports Dolby vision


Edit: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-entertainment/1404660/dolby-vision-vs-hdr-10-whats-the-difference

Unlike some of the consumer technology face-offs of the past, picking sides isn’t quite so straightforward when it comes to Dolby Vision vs HDR 10. This is because while Dolby Vision requires everything - from the content, to the player, to the screen - to all support Dolby Vision; such players and televisions will still be able to play HDR 10 content as well, which in theory gives you the best of both worlds.

 

[Yoshichan]

I'll see if I can find something. But I'm pretty sure Samsung don't even support Dolby vision so that information is already incorrect. AFAIK all HDR TVs support HDR10, and LG also supports Dolby vision


Edit: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-entertainment/1404660/dolby-vision-vs-hdr-10-whats-the-difference

Thanks a lot! One last question, so between this:

http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-60UH770V

and this:

http://www.lg.com/se/tv/lg-65UH615V

Same price, which one would you go for? The 65" doesn't have HDR1000 right? While the 60" has HDR1000.

 

[mrklaw]

Thanks a lot! One last question, (sec, let me edit)

Yes. I think only LG (at least in the UK) support Dolby vision. However I don't think there is any content using that, so currently it's a potential value rather than a practical one.

Also bear in mind the actual panel may vary in how good it is at representing that HDR signal

 

[TheFlow]

any Black Friday deals worh jumping on?

 

[mrklaw]

Thanks a lot! One last question, so between this:

http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-60UH770V

and this:

http://www.lg.com/se/tv/lg-65UH615V

Same price, which one would you go for? The 65" doesn't have HDR1000 right? While the 60" has HDR1000.

Uh770v I think is this one? http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/uh7700

How much? If it's super cheap it might be an option, but would need to compare with sets like samsung ks7000 or Sony xd800d

60" Samsung ks7000 £1300 in the uk

 

[Inviusx]

My friend and I went shopping for his new TV. We picked up a Samsung Series 9000 55inch. They didnt have the 8000 in stock. The 9000 has a lower response time than the 8000, it was a little bit more expensive but its an awesome TV.